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I believe what is meant is that when selling people park there when there is no ongoing hostle roleplay, so when they are robbed they can only lose what they have on them and not what is in the rest of the truck as it is untouchable in a Gz. However the seller and processor are now both far away from greenzones so this isn't really a huge problem anymore
the rule cover that if you sell your items or proces it, you are exploiting the gz to avoid hostile roleplay.
It would if it didn’t say ongoing. Without it saying ongoing then yes it would be to avoid hostilely roleplay however with nothing going on it cannot be deemed ongoing
In best practice, this might work, however in let's say there is an active situation such as a shootout, and you're picking up or dropping off your friend to aid that situation, you are rejoining that situation.
[SIZE=11pt]This small section of the rule as been used, wrongly, to justify an initiation by chasing someone for three minutes. I don’t think needs to change but is interesting how some players just misused it.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Combate storing is not the same as to go into a greenzone without any ongoing RP. To define “being chase” should mean that there is an active roleplay, that led to chase. It doesn’t mean chasing by itself to be roleplay. And if you go into a greenzone, it does not mean you have avoided roleplay as roleplay can still happen in greenzones and, of course, how do you know you have prevented roleplay if no one has initiated on you with voice? As far as you know, you are just “living your Altis life”. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]This one is quite interesting to me. That is, if chasing by itself is considered an initiation, can a player block other player with a chopper from going into greezones? He can simply block by continuously following another player, without ever landing. When does it end? When the player is out of fuel? How long will it take? Will the player be forced to initiate the chopper by firing tracers? What if they don’t have tracers? Again, if chasing is considered a initiation, we are free to exploit and troll any player, wasting their time in the server without ever wanting to actually roleplay.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]This reports exactly what i just said. If chasing is considered a initiation, chasing over someone to force a player into a robbery/gunfight, using vehicles to exploit and bait RP, shouldn’t it also be punished?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]This rule is clearly the most used for this issue. But again, it says “ to avoid ongoing hostile roleplay”. If chasing in considered an initiation, then yes, if someone is chasing you, means there is an oingoing roleplay. Still, how do you know it’s hostile? If a chopper is following you and you go into a greenzone, how do you know it’s hostile? That would be just arbitrary.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Just curious that even sirens lights from police “do not mean RP has been initiated on their point”. It’s clear that all roleplay initiations must be two sided, voice-initiated. If someone has the intent to rob and has solely initiated a chase after a player, how do you know if RP has been initiated for the player in the ground? Should they just assume or wonder? If so, can we now also assume that i’m going to immediately shoot at them if they land near me? I mean, i have my weapon out, pointing at them, they need to just “know”.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]This is likely the most important rule regarding this issue. I love this server because rules allow prediction and fairness to all players. Having roleplay at the highest standards is crucial for the continuation of our community. There should not be rules for everything and anything but certainly, is important to create and build rules that create a [/SIZE][SIZE=11pt]common sense[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] in the server. For example, you know that if you want to help a teammate being robbed, he as to initiate for you, at least. You know that if you want someone to put his weapon out, you must actually tell me him that he needs to do it and what are the consequences. There is a logic path to all roleplay. That is why i believe giving the ability of initiate using a movement and a vehicle ( flying a chopper/ driving a car) is not properly representative of that common sense. The reason i called it loophole is that it’s comprension by both players and apparently staff, is not that common sense, as it shouldn’t be. And it does not follow the said “logical path” used in the remaining roleplay dynamics. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]I help a lot of new players in the island and what i have found ( and even seen) is that the most experienced players, exploit this loophole in the rules to their advantage, blaming other players for breaking ghost-rules and demanding compensations. As such, this also affects the well-being of the community.[/SIZE]
What counts as a road collision, if I’m getting chased by cops and I crash into them does that mean they can no longer arrest me?
So I only have a pistol and I holster it to slow myself to run farther faster I am now no longer able to get involved? -1 doesn’t make much sense tbh
+1 If it is crashing into a different individual (someone not involved)when the chasing is happening then I don’t see what is wrong with utilising the accident however
I think Willie is Meaning @MrLongSlong if your crash into the cop or he does two your from desync as an example but if it's blatant then no XD
This is a reckless tactic and I have had some idiots landing a blackfish on me causing accidents. It shows no regard for their lives at all and is very hard for a pilot like myself who uses 1st person to notice - causing accidents.
Scenario 1- someone is doing a run and have a heli spooled up for a quick escape (most people do this). By the time I’ve landed or drove up to ‘initiate’ they would have flown off and it would be impossible to rob them.
Rotary blocking when no RP has been initiated, is wrong. It's rather different to be in an ongoing RP situation and blocking someone's chopper ( i get that. That's what usually happens with police). Now just flying around, finding a unknown chopper and do a rotary block for the sake of RP initiation, that breaks the rule 3.7 ( Baiting RP).Scenario 1- someone is doing a run and have a heli spooled up for a quick escape (most people do this). By the time I’ve landed or drove up to ‘initiate’ they would have flown off and it would be impossible to rob them.
Rotary blocking is a great tactic against people who are trying to make a quick getaway. The police especially use this and I think it’s fine
If you start the initiation first then the number of rotor blocking VDMs will increase drastically as people will have less time to position as well as person being blocked will already be trying to dip so people will be moving and there will be just explosion after explosion. You might as well just say im gonna fly into you if you fly off because that is what will be happening.
