Change is needed and the floor is open

[Rodney Oatee]

it's most definitely not as simple as just "improve fps"! and I can't see a poll exactly proving much. The devs look to optimise performance in all the features they produce but sending them off to delve through the hundreds of different scripts and their dependencies to improve your frames per second by a marginal amount that is dependent on your gaming hardware isn't a good use of their time.

I think perhaps you've mixed up fps with server performance/latency, which again is something the dev's are continually tweaking but telling them to stop making anything new just to optimise a few scripts and begin scrapping lots of features is going to do more harm than good. 

I've seen the issues we get when the server is full and know the dev team is looking into this but it's not going to be their main area of focus AFAIK.

Without trying to course and argument, or act like I’m saying that your wrong. 
 

Back in 2014, when you would log into the server, when I would get around 45-50 FPS in kav city and 60+ FPS (with my old computer! Witch had an intel pentium cpu and a 960) everywhere else, the mission file was around 25k. Over the years as more and more has been added, the FPS has dropped and dropped. It’s only a problem on this server, and @Wilco said (without getting the exact quote) that arma  3s player base is dropping but other servers player base is not, and therefor RPUK is doing something wrong. You cant expect us to believe that there’s nothing that can be done to improve everyone’s FPS on RPUK when we go onto other altis roleplay servers and get much better FPS.

i don’t want to play on those servers! Their roleplay standards suck! I want to play here, the point im making is by not trying to fix this issue your automatically pushing a huge amount of potential players away, as they won’t want to play with low FPS, or have to lower their settings just to play here.

Remove the scripts we don’t need or put hardly used, take away buildings that realistically  dont need to be there! 

Focus on events, and runs, and things people can do on the server rather then making the server look “pretty” no point in the server looking pretty if no one can get 20fps! 
 

don’t blame the game, don’t blame anything, THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH FPS on this server. The sooner we admit it, the sooner we do something about it! The happier the community is! It will grow more and more....

thank you for the response sir!  @Matt MSc

And if it was, all anyone would do is complain that we were getting no features. When we were told “we’re focussing on optimisation” people would say “can’t you add some features while you do it”

Good devs are hard to come by and good devs with no lives who code for RPUK all day every day even harder .

Performance will hopefully be optimised over time but let’s not pretend that we don’t want new features to keep us all interested in playing when/if the server fully is optimised .

The number one thing that keeps the server “interesting” is people, every single person that logs onto the server, is another person for you to roleplay with! If there is two full servers of people, my god you will never get bored. By having poor optimisation your loosing those players before they could ever really get started, they just give up.

all I’m saying is have a look into all scripts/ features we currently have, determine the ones that are used and the ones that aren’t, remove them, then if some are used but not very much, put it up for debate on the forums if it should stay! Make room for new scripts that are more enjoyable, rather then waking them onto the same mission file.

 

[Matt]

Without trying to course and argument, or act like I’m saying that your wrong. 
 

Back in 2014, when you would log into the server, when I would get around 45-50 FPS in kav city and 60+ FPS (with my old computer! Witch had an intel pentium cpu and a 960) everywhere else, the mission file was around 25k. Over the years as more and more has been added, the FPS has dropped and dropped. It’s only a problem on this server, and @Wilco said (without getting the exact quote) that arma  3s player base is dropping but other servers player base is not, and therefor RPUK is doing something wrong. You cant expect us to believe that there’s nothing that can be done to improve everyone’s FPS on RPUK when we go onto other altis roleplay servers and get much better FPS.

i don’t want to play on those servers! Their roleplay standards suck! I want to play here, the point im making is by not trying to fix this issue your automatically pushing a huge amount of potential players away, as they won’t want to play with low FPS, or have to lower their settings just to play here.

Remove the scripts we don’t need or put hardly used, take away buildings that realistically  dont need to be there! 

Focus on events, and runs, and things people can do on the server rather then making the server look “pretty” no point in the server looking pretty if no one can get 20fps! 
 

don’t blame the game, don’t blame anything, THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH FPS on this server. The sooner we admit it, the sooner we do something about it! The happier the community is! It will grow more and more....

thank you for the response sir!  @Matt MSc

The number one thing that keeps the server “interesting” is people, every single person that logs onto the server, is another person for you to roleplay with! If there is two full servers of people, my god you will never get bored. By having poor optimisation your loosing those players before they could ever really get started, they just give up.

all I’m saying is have a look into all scripts/ features we currently have, determine the ones that are used and the ones that aren’t, remove them, then if some are used but not very much, put it up for debate on the forums if it should stay! Make room for new scripts that are more enjoyable, rather then waking them onto the same mission file.

again are you talking about server performance or FPS because they are two different things.

FPS is entirely subjective and is based on number of objects rendered by your client, the hardware that you are running and various other factors of which we have no control over. I personally don't get any issues with the number of frames I get, even in Kavala for example but my numbers tend to take a tumble when it gets seriously busy (especially with a lot of heli's due to the particle effects that come with them).

I think you;re probably referencing server performance and I'd be interested to know when you're seeing issues with this the most so we can look into root cause analysis? What sort of issues have you experienced etc but I'd ask you put this into development suggestions as this thread is not the place for this to get looked into or explored by the devs. 

 

[Aethon]

again are you talking about server performance or FPS because they are two different things.

FPS is entirely subjective and is based on number of objects rendered by your client, the hardware that you are running and various other factors of which we have no control over. I personally don't get any issues with the number of frames I get, even in Kavala for example but my numbers tend to take a tumble when it gets seriously busy (especially with a lot of heli's due to the particle effects that come with them).

I think you;re probably referencing server performance and I'd be interested to know when you're seeing issues with this the most so we can look into root cause analysis? What sort of issues have you experienced etc but I'd ask you put this into development suggestions as this thread is not the place for this to get looked into or explored by the devs. 

For me it's usually when I'm near kavala that my fps absolutely plummets - I can usually get 30-40 on most other places, but in kavala it's 15-20 if I'm lucky. Even still, 30-40 is less than I get on other servers with a full playercount, so I suspect it's something to do with RPUK's particular scripts that causes the issue.

 

[Kattana]

Alot of people that have put time on this server have been banned, well of course because they did something against the rules , sometimes people like to fight alot just to have fun and some of them dont like it and roleplay, i suggest that you make the south completely Redzone not just Circles... that way people that like to have gunfights can leave others alone and roleplayers can roleplay in peace not being harrased to RP just on the greenzone

 

[MacDonald]

Alot of people that have put time on this server have been banned, well of course because they did something against the rules , sometimes people like to fight alot just to have fun and some of them dont like it and roleplay, i suggest that you make the south completely Redzone not just Circles... that way people that like to have gunfights can leave others alone and roleplayers can roleplay in peace not being harrased to RP just on the greenzone

Nah cuz then its just a sniperfest, nobody wants that. Except from @Jamie

 

[Kempi Anderson]

Remove the scripts we don’t need or put hardly used, take away buildings that realistically  dont need to be there! 

What scripts do you think there are that could realistically be removed that would actually affect the client FPS or server performance?

by not trying to fix this issue your automatically pushing a huge amount of potential players away

May I ask where you're getting the idea that the devs are not actively looking to fix this issue?

all I’m saying is have a look into all scripts/ features we currently have, determine the ones that are used and the ones that aren’t, remove them

Scripts do not affect server performance in the way you think they do, unless they are running and even then they don't use up much of the server, you would realistically have to remove several scripts for so much of 1% of an increase in server performance. Removing unused scripts would literally do nothing to increase server performance as the script is well ... not being used.

I don't see the point in everyone telling devs to just fix it when they don't know anything about what's going in. One person asking for it to be fixed is enough devs are constantly looking into the issues with performance 

Back in 2014, when you would log into the server, when I would get around 45-50 FPS in kav city

This issue also lies with massive updates from Bohemia adding new vehicles, higher texture skins and higher quality models and textures in general. If you compare arma today from arma in 2014 you've got almost double the amount of things. 

 

[Frisky Hen]

Long time player. I pop back now and then to have a look for familiar faces and see if the server has improved.

I left because the community/roleplay seemed to be going downhill and a lot of the people with any sort of exclusive perks seemed to abuse them. I haven't been on in so long so couldn't help very much.

The only thing I might suggest is giving new players a better chance. When I joined I had no idea about the rules, as most people don't. I ran straight to the police HQ, robbed one of their cars and started trying to drive away, hitting several people. A lovely admin teleported to me, told me to fuck off and banned me. To be fair, I did read the rules and came back for a long stay. 

However, if I had had been banned for 1 hour with a message to read the rules I would have done so and learned the lesson, rejoining the community much quicker. 

Hi to all the oldies! 

 

[Wilco]

The only thing I might suggest is giving new players a better chance. When I joined I had no idea about the rules, as most people don't. I ran straight to the police HQ, robbed one of their cars and started trying to drive away, hitting several people. A lovely admin teleported to me, told me to fuck off and banned me. To be fair, I did read the rules and came back for a long stay. 

However, if I had had been banned for 1 hour with a message to read the rules I would have done so and learned the lesson, rejoining the community much quicker. 

Nice to see you again!

Our team where they can will pull someone to a nearby mountain and have a quick chat however on some rules they will need to enforce a ban, We have switched to a more fairer system now as per voted on, I feel looking at the bans since we did this change there hasn't been that many.

There has been comments that Roleplay has slipped, We have unfortunately people returning from servers where Roleplay was zero! This will hopefully improve over time as they settle back in.

 

[Frisky Hen]

Nice to see you again!

Our team where they can will pull someone to a nearby mountain and have a quick chat however on some rules they will need to enforce a ban, We have switched to a more fairer system now as per voted on, I feel looking at the bans since we did this change there hasn't been that many.

There has been comments that Roleplay has slipped, We have unfortunately people returning from servers where Roleplay was zero! This will hopefully improve over time as they settle back in.

Cheers Wilco.

Glad to hear that! I was a dick that first day and might have just caught the admin at a very busy time or in a bad mood. 

One suggestion I thought about; though it might be drastic and potentially very very messy; would be to unban everyone. Absolutely anyone who has ever been banned gets one more chance. This would likely lead to chaos the first few days so building a strong and dependable admin force beforehand would be essential. 

Might seem mad but out of the thousands of nutters who come back you're likely to get a good few quality RP'ers who lost their way from time to time. 

I doubt I'll be back anytime soon but good luck to everyone! 

Edit: 3 seconds after posting I check my messages. Without reading into it I'm guessing you were a step ahead of me

 

[WilsonWilsonson]

I've only been on this server, and arma 3, for 3 or four days so I thought I'd give a new players perspective.

It is true that if you just dive straight in without reading the relevant parts of this site and watching a few youtube vids, Stoneman for example, Altis is a confusing place. The obligation to orientate yourself as a new player is upon themselves. roleplay.co.uk, and a few people on the island, go out of their way to educate yourself.

With that in mind once I did do that.....properly And learnt hw to navigate the menus and do actions like hands-up, holstering weapon etc its all about the RP! Even when the odd dickhead RDMs you and you lose all your peaches and stuff  well it doesn't matter! Their are idiots IRL I just incorporate into RP.

So in my opinion its not the way the server is set up or random knobheads that is probably contributing to server depopulation....my one slight suggestion to increase police, nhs etc is that they don't have to use teamspeak! It may be essential i'm not sure but for a noob like me its a bit daunting really.

Anyway I love the server and am glad to be a part of it!!

 

[M]

I've only been on this server, and arma 3, for 3 or four days so I thought I'd give a new players perspective.

It is true that if you just dive straight in without reading the relevant parts of this site and watching a few youtube vids, Stoneman for example, Altis is a confusing place. The obligation to orientate yourself as a new player is upon themselves. roleplay.co.uk, and a few people on the island, go out of their way to educate yourself.

With that in mind once I did do that.....properly And learnt hw to navigate the menus and do actions like hands-up, holstering weapon etc its all about the RP! Even when the odd dickhead RDMs you and you lose all your peaches and stuff  well it doesn't matter! Their are idiots IRL I just incorporate into RP.

So in my opinion its not the way the server is set up or random knobheads that is probably contributing to server depopulation....my one slight suggestion to increase police, nhs etc is that they don't have to use teamspeak! It may be essential i'm not sure but for a noob like me its a bit daunting really.

Anyway I love the server and am glad to be a part of it!!

The teamspeak is the vital core of all servers. A faction that doesn't have a teamspeak is better off not communicating at all. Group chat can only do so much, and it cant easily be muted so players can focus on their RP or footsteps around them in an fight. 

Join a faction first and find out how they communicate, and then come back to us and tell us 

 

[Simon Ross]

NHS do not theoretically need teamspeak apart from meetings(but to actually be a part of it you do), however it is very nice to be able to talk to everyone whilst being at different parts of the map or without needing to hold down a push to talk all the time. However for the rest of the factions it is vital to be in communication at all times 

 

[Joshbond]

I have noticed in recent years that Altis Life has dramatically changed from 'hardcore/great' roleplay to more combat based 'shitplay'. So iniation happens too quickly, or people just expect to be shot so they are to quick to raise their weapons and pull the trigger which leads to more reports etc etc etc

When Altis Life first started it was all about the roleplay, there was no 5 second initiation bullshit from cops or rebels. If I wanted to initiate I had to have a good reason too. As a civilian you could not just run up to someone and say hands up or die and than in 5 seconds shoot them. That was just bullshit, not roleplay at all just shitplay as we used to call it. 

Cops could not just pull over a hemmit box and say, right well I want to have a look inside cause you know drugs and that. Which I have seen done a lot these days. 

The vehicle had to be an actual suspect, I.E there was a report of a Hemmet box of this colour with in the local area, not on the other side of island and a description of the driver was provided. ProActive Team did use to perform random checks on vehicles but we never searched them. We only checked peoples licenses and registration to ensure everything matched and that people were driving legally, this was to generate more roleplay but we done this to show cops can roleplay great and that we want to. If we believed people were 'drunk' driving or did not have a driving license we would FULLY roleplay it out and people we pulled over would love roleplaying back. 

These days I feel as if people think roleplaying is more of a 'chore' now instead of a neseccesity. I understand why some servers have changed their approach from proper roleplay to 'meh roleplay' because of what their community members want. A lot of new younger people have joined and I do not believe enough of them fully appreciate or enjoy the roleplay, hence the change into more combat based and 'quick' bullshit initiations.

Cops used to actually take people to jail as well, not just send them to jail at a PD. This gave the oppurtunity for more roleplay, his teammates could have been following us and then see we are escorting the arrested person (their friend) to the prison and attempt to create roleplay to get him out or do a good initiation. People dont have that chance anymore from what I can tell, its just back to pd and BAM jail. 

I remember the old Laywer situation (oh well I want my Laywer here) well alright then go get him. If the Laywer did not turn up within 5 minutes (could be more time but generally we allowed 5 minutes) than they lost the chance but if the Laywer did show up then they could try RP out that way. If the Laywer was just shit at rp and just a retard, we sent them away. If the Laywer was on point and his roleplay was very good, we most of the time let the guy away with a fine instead of jail, smaller fine instead of a big one or just no fine. 

These days, that does not happen. Please no senior police take this the wrong way (as it is not all of you) but when the newer generation of cops who have not learned/adopted the ways of great roleplay and they become instructors/leaders, they teach others their way of roleplay which is not as good and then the domino effect begins. So the roleplay standard just gets worse and worse and worse until the point where its just pretty shit. Same for rebels, over time new gangs started forming and their roleplay standard dropped and than the old gangs who were great at RP dispanded and either quit Altis Life or joined these new gangs and those people changed because of how the rest of their gang do things. 

I come on Altis Life to roleplay with people, talk to people, have a laugh with people and act is if I was a Police Constable in real life. I do not come on to seek combat, seek 1v1 bullshit or whatever. For me using lethal is always my last resort. Many times I used to only carry a Tazar with me as I did not need a lethal but when I felt as if I needed to carry one (I.E. doing certain activies like a drug bust) I would take a Vermin because the rate of fire was amazing. APC best firearm back then was a MX unless you were SCO19 (Trojan) but they rarely deployed. 

Personally, I would love to see stricter rules on roleplay. However being realistic I know this wont happen due to how the overall Altis Life Community has changed. However that will not stop me. So if I do get accepted back into the APC, you rebels and Civillians expect to see me out on the street doing some great roleplay and please do not feel scared when I pull you over or ask you to stop running. I just want to chat and see how you are doing.

P.S. did not mean for this to be a little rant, got carried away and just carried on typing xD. 

 

[Chukwuemecka]

Get rid of the poseidon, they're the reason i stopped playing....

 

[killersky]

Get rid of the poseidon, they're the reason i stopped playing....

care to explain?

 

[Unlucky George]

Could we try removing the security checks on new Team Speak visitors - no new player will wait 45 minutes to chat - not even for me! (JK)

Apologies if this has already been done.

 

[killersky]

Could we try removing the security checks on new Team Speak visitors - no new player will wait 45 minutes to chat - not even for me! (JK)

Apologies if this has already been done.

think its put in place for the 1.6 trolls etc.
maybe a specific role for verified members so they can acces all other channel except public

 

[Romly]

Keep the server the way it is, it's luvley.

Maybe get the Altis Film company to make some wicked video and put on Reddit and shit or other Arma forums. Or maybe somehow pull some strings and get some dickhed like Operator Drewski or some other Arma youtuber to play on the server for a few episodes. If PsySyndicate was unbanned in the mass unban get that cunt on too, why not? More the merrier. 

Also KIDS, kids also play games believe it or not. They dominate console gaming and some have started to creep onto PC gaming since parents don't beat their kids anymore and buy them £2,000 PC setups apparently. What's important is, is that they're about 10% of Arma's playerbase, maybe less, and they join and they're told, rebel only, you can't join Police or Medics because your not 16. Now I know we've let kids on white listed rolls before and they've fucked it up BUT think of Fergus, he got quite high I think, not sure what's happened to him now but he climbed pretty high as I remember, and he was still learning the alphabet. We should treat them like adults, if they behave like kids, ban them. This is a very mature community and I for one am VERY mature.

Anyway, I fink that some of that could slightly bump the player base. Don't change the server it's fukin wicked mate. @Wilco if you are reading this just think, you've had people CRY to come back after they've been banned. Not kids either, men, cry. So.. it's obviously quite good, you can't get an experience like it on any other bludclart server.

Hope this helped.

 

[Snowball]

I agree with the guy before.

The poseidon gang is terrible honestly. It's a big gang with a bunch of ''Call of duty'' players, and they're destroying the RP-experience without any doubt. 

Regards, Snow. 

 

[Butch]

The poseidon gang is terrible honestly. It's a big gang with a bunch of ''Call of duty'' players, and they're destroying the RP-experience without any doubt. 

People seem to forget that altis Life isn't supposed and never have been something you win 24/7 just because you got the short straw in the situation (which is probably cause you broke some laws in Poseidon lands or decided to be a cunt) a whole faction shouldn't be removed lmao. If you would actually come up with some examples and some constructive critisim that would be hell of alot more helpful than whining that it should be removed...