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Warning Shots
- Thread starter Rossss
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From what can gather here, you've had a bad experience with being shot down and aren't happy.
At the moment the system isn't perfect, but it works and it works well. As you stated its not realistic, no, but in real life of someone is shooting at you then you run, this is the principle we apply to helicopters. If you are shot at I would advice you to not just gain altitude but to fly away so you aren't close to where you were shot at from.
I don't know about you but if i was being shot at, i think "oh shit, better move" which is once again the principle here. You cant compare this to shooting loads of people or to spiking a car as with a helicopter there can be no verbal initiation.
At the moment the system isn't perfect, but it works and it works well. As you stated its not realistic, no, but in real life of someone is shooting at you then you run, this is the principle we apply to helicopters. If you are shot at I would advice you to not just gain altitude but to fly away so you aren't close to where you were shot at from.
I don't know about you but if i was being shot at, i think "oh shit, better move" which is once again the principle here. You cant compare this to shooting loads of people or to spiking a car as with a helicopter there can be no verbal initiation.
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My opinion, Police/Rebels shoot warning shots to make you go away. If you don't want to listen then R.I.P. You can hear the bullets from a chopper around you without earplugs. Personally i don't see why this topic got posted as you are the only one who has the issue with it. Maybe you enjoy Trolling/Baiting?? idk, but if it's not broke, Don't fix it.
Jack D
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Tell ya what, If a helicopter doesn't respond to warning shots, then the helicopter will be shot down, whoever the fuck is inside the veichle, well unfortunate for you...We killed the noisy ass helicopter that was already causing disruption to role play, and endangering civilians lives, it's just a shame that whoever is inside the veichle was killed as a result of police killing the helicopter 
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What about fireworks with my face on??????? Should scare any heli pilot away
.What about fireworks with my face on??????? Should scare any heli pilot away
Shalloa
Well-known member
A.
Warning shots are to alert the Pilot to leave the area or the helicopter will be shot down.
B.
Shooting down a helicopter is the same as taking out a tire.. You still have to talk the to person before you can kill him, thats if he survive the crash.
If you shoot the pilot its RDM same as shooting a driver. Intiation must be made at all times.
C.
Ross. Being able to 'scan' the helicopter will still not help as it will only show the Owner and not the pilot. It will also only the police that is able to do this.
Its simple.. you receive warning shots then you have 2 choices..
1. You stay and your helicopter gets shot down. High change of you end up Dead.
2. You leave and come back later, plus side is that your still breathing.
"Common sense"
Hope this helps..
Warning shots are to alert the Pilot to leave the area or the helicopter will be shot down.
B.
Shooting down a helicopter is the same as taking out a tire.. You still have to talk the to person before you can kill him, thats if he survive the crash.
If you shoot the pilot its RDM same as shooting a driver. Intiation must be made at all times.
C.
Ross. Being able to 'scan' the helicopter will still not help as it will only show the Owner and not the pilot. It will also only the police that is able to do this.
Its simple.. you receive warning shots then you have 2 choices..
1. You stay and your helicopter gets shot down. High change of you end up Dead.
2. You leave and come back later, plus side is that your still breathing.
"Common sense"
Hope this helps..
Haywire
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Does this only apply to the police? Are rebels allowed to kill the pilot of the helicopter if they don't comply with the warning shots or do they have to disable the engine instead and initiate on the pilot sepeartely? :3
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As @SGT Shalloastated:
Its simple.. you receive warning shots then you have 2 choices..
1. You stay and your helicopter gets shot down. High change of you end up Dead.
2. You leave and come back later, plus side is that your still breathing.
3.Failing to value your life!!! When you know bullets are straying ur your chopper, you need to leave immediatlely or pay the consequences if ignored.
"Common sense"
Hope this helps..
Common sense:is a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things, which is shared by ("common to") nearly all people and can reasonably be expected of nearly all people without any need for debate.[]
Theres currently no other way to communicate with the pilot since this option has been removed a couple of Updates ago.
Its simple.. you receive warning shots then you have 2 choices..
1. You stay and your helicopter gets shot down. High change of you end up Dead.
2. You leave and come back later, plus side is that your still breathing.
3.Failing to value your life!!! When you know bullets are straying ur your chopper, you need to leave immediatlely or pay the consequences if ignored.
"Common sense"
Hope this helps..
Common sense:is a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge things, which is shared by ("common to") nearly all people and can reasonably be expected of nearly all people without any need for debate.[]
Theres currently no other way to communicate with the pilot since this option has been removed a couple of Updates ago.
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Patchwork
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@Rossss
As @SPC LeeAspecified we may shoot warning shots in the event that they are abusing aviation laws or breaking server rules. if the helicopter don't fly off we have the privilege to disable the helicopter. We may not shoot the occupants of said helicopter.
if you belive this rule should be changed don't hesitate to present a rule suggestion/feedback form.
It may not be excellent "RP", but it is rather difficult to address/speak/initiate a helicopter flying 300m up.
Regards,
Patch
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P.S the font you added to the last post is horrific.
As @SPC LeeAspecified we may shoot warning shots in the event that they are abusing aviation laws or breaking server rules. if the helicopter don't fly off we have the privilege to disable the helicopter. We may not shoot the occupants of said helicopter.
if you belive this rule should be changed don't hesitate to present a rule suggestion/feedback form.
It may not be excellent "RP", but it is rather difficult to address/speak/initiate a helicopter flying 300m up.
Regards,
Patch
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P.S the font you added to the last post is horrific.
Rossss
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It works well, however I don't see it to be a very roleplay friendly manner to do things - which is why I have suggested solutions.
It's not that i've had a bad experience, it's that as soon as a heli turns up, complying with the law, it's given warning shots. Also, it doesn't work out the way people are saying, usually people are shooting so close that it's pretty much RDM.
Finally, if there is no plans for an alternate method, can we at least get it put into the rules so people know what to do and make it not RDM as, even though it's accepted procedure, it's still technically RDM if you don't speak to them
Booker Dewitt
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I thought you knew this Ross, especially as a former DNPAS.. Any helicopter in airspace they are not allowed, ie over towns or preventing the course of justice will, as we are no longer able to see names of the pilots, be given warningshots and shot down if they don't leave. But the current problem is that when someone spot an helicopter there is almost a fight to give three tracermagazines to it, and shoot it down which is stupid.. Communications aren't good enough with this as there is only need for a few shots behind the helicopter. Time is also something to take into consideration, as many dont get much time to react. But if you don't leave after the warningshots, your helicopter will be shot down if you so die with it or not, that is a question of how much you care about life.
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Vaffla
Professional Troll
Last time this was asked to be clarified, management stated police are to issue 3 warning shots to the front of the heli and 3 to the rear, in quick succession with tracers. For the purposes of the rules, only 1 set of these warning shots is required before taking out the main or tail rotor, but more would of course be preferable. If police fired more than 3 to the front and 3 to the rear and they accidentally hit the pilot, it would be seen as RDM (for example, if somebody just sprays an entire magazine in their direction).
Failure to comply after the proper procedure is on the head of the person deciding not to leave. If the pilot dies when crash landing after losing their rotor, it is not RDM or VDM, unless police/rebels did not give the person time to comply with the warning shots.
Failure to comply after the proper procedure is on the head of the person deciding not to leave. If the pilot dies when crash landing after losing their rotor, it is not RDM or VDM, unless police/rebels did not give the person time to comply with the warning shots.
Maskedrussian
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How can we know who is in the chopper without them messaging us first?
Drama Lama
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It really does not matter who is piloting the helicopter they simple want the heli to flee away so they will issue warning shots!
Maskedrussian
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I know mate, I am a cop! I was asking the rebels how you expect us to msg the hell without knowing there name. Thank you anywayIt really does not matter who is piloting the helicopter they simple want the heli to flee away so they will issue warning shots!
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Guys am glad u brought this topic up, seems like theres confusion going around, especially new players joining the community.
Hopefully this will come to a conclusion unless someone still has a question?
Otherwise contact our support team in the help channels or a Admin directly like myself, I would glady help u out of your confusion.
Or just send me a Private message on
the forums/website.
Happy gaming
Hopefully this will come to a conclusion unless someone still has a question?
Otherwise contact our support team in the help channels or a Admin directly like myself, I would glady help u out of your confusion.
Or just send me a Private message on
the forums/website.
Happy gaming
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Think I remember speaking to someone (possibly you, white orca, said they were ex DNPAS?) near a military compound after you were shot down for failing to heed warning shots a few weeks ago. I even remember replying to a police dispatch, 3 times, telling the pilot to leave the area (after they received warning shots they chose to remain) who still refused despite the fact they were receiving warning shots and instructions from an officer to leave the area. Just remember, common sense and value your life, if you cant tell who (police or rebel) the shots are coming from, leave anyway.
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Ok so I think I know why Ross posted this.
Me and my patrol partner and some NCA guys were raiding the rebel outpost, me and my patrol partner rolled up and ended the gunfight, so 3 minutes after the gunfight was active a hellcat came in and was hovering around 100-150m and we all automatically thought well this is probably a scout helicopter as if he was here to buy rebel stuff, he would've flew to the other rebel outpost as he's seen cops here. So I fired a mag and a half of warning tracers 3 in the front and 3 in the back with 30 seconds burst between each and the hellcat didn't move on, so we took its tail rotor out then held fire as it wouldn't move along, I've seen many High Ranking officers doing this in my time of the police and my time as a rebel and nothing has occurred that this isn't allowed, so I don't really know what you're point is here. In real life, if you seen bullets flying past your helicopter in real life, you wouldn't stay there and message the police telling them you're not breaking the law. You would leave and then contact the police about the situation.
Now he was sending us dispatches about hes not breaking any laws but we didn't read them as it was just an active gunfight here and we're trying to get rid of this hellcat thats hovering above us.
I've spoken to many Staff Members, Member support and High ranks in the police force and they've stated what we done is perfectly fine, so I'm still confused why one party is telling me it's not allowed but everyone else is telling me it's completely fine.
Me and my patrol partner and some NCA guys were raiding the rebel outpost, me and my patrol partner rolled up and ended the gunfight, so 3 minutes after the gunfight was active a hellcat came in and was hovering around 100-150m and we all automatically thought well this is probably a scout helicopter as if he was here to buy rebel stuff, he would've flew to the other rebel outpost as he's seen cops here. So I fired a mag and a half of warning tracers 3 in the front and 3 in the back with 30 seconds burst between each and the hellcat didn't move on, so we took its tail rotor out then held fire as it wouldn't move along, I've seen many High Ranking officers doing this in my time of the police and my time as a rebel and nothing has occurred that this isn't allowed, so I don't really know what you're point is here. In real life, if you seen bullets flying past your helicopter in real life, you wouldn't stay there and message the police telling them you're not breaking the law. You would leave and then contact the police about the situation.
Now he was sending us dispatches about hes not breaking any laws but we didn't read them as it was just an active gunfight here and we're trying to get rid of this hellcat thats hovering above us.
I've spoken to many Staff Members, Member support and High ranks in the police force and they've stated what we done is perfectly fine, so I'm still confused why one party is telling me it's not allowed but everyone else is telling me it's completely fine.
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Rossss
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We always messaged a helicopter when I was around in NPAS. I know that is not possible, but it is one of the reasons this topic was made.
Attempted to shoot me down
Yes, that was me, I tried to roleplay it out, after all "It's never too late to speak".I've seen it happen lots recently, it's nothing against you mate. I understand why this is done completely, but because it is accepted practise, does that always mean it is the right practise? The way I see it right now, this is an unwritten exception to the RDM rule. I understand it, and the pilot of that hellcat understood it last night, however would a hobo understand the message? I think it should either be added to the rules or make a solution to involve more roleplay, even if police just text a heli with a copy paste template (which could even be assigned to a macro to those who have them).
TLDR; It's fine in the rules (see above bold), but could it be improved to add more roleplay?