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Sandy RDM/bad RP

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cocky2015

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Name of the person you are reporting (in-game name):Sandy
 
Time & Date this happened:13/05/2015 7.00
 
Which Server did this happen on:1
 
Description of what happened:a guy told me to put my hand on my head i was about to but he killed me 
 
What Rule Was Broken ?:RDM/bad RP
 
Have you tried to resolve with the player before posting?:no
  
Please post video evidence/screenshots here
(This is almost a must! without this you have no solid evidence, If your report is about RDM then it must be a video leading upto the RDM and after) 

 
 i Asked a Mentor ([TI]PaulS) about the video and he said: yeah abit dodgey, i was in the area when it happened and i heard him tell you to put hands up but what i read in side chat i was under the impression you were looking at him but clearly you weren't so kinda RDM/bad RP but he can argue that you should of put your hands up i guess

 
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Hello, Sandy/ Endrogen here.

Alright, so let's set the pretence to this incident. 

two minutes prior to the situation you see before you, I drove past you in athira in my hatchback sport. As I was speeding past you at over 100mph you told me "get out the car or I'll shoot"  Less than 1 second later you sprayed down my hatchback and almost killed me, In what would be classed as a clear cut RDM case.

The server died just after you had a chopper full of rebels land and get killed instantly by a group of players i was with.

when the server came back up, 

5B) A new life does not start when

Your character has been the victim of a clear case of  RDM/VDM

You disconnect (end of session)

I seen you, wearing the exact same clothing with the exact same gun you were shooting at me only moments before.

I  asked you to stop, and after 6 seconds you turned towards me with a Rifle in your hands, therefore you died. This has nothing to do with time given,  by facing me with your rifle you performed a hostile action when being held up. 

next time you're getting held up after you try and shoot someone, be grateful that they didn't just shoot you in the head and put your hands up like you were asked to.

Regards,

SPC Endrogen / Sandy

 
You turned towards me with a weapon in your hands,

I shot as soon as you done that. You stopped.... Thought about what you were going to do, asked for help in team speak then you turned towards me.

And if you're going to post team speak logs, make sure you don't edit them to your own advantage.

<07:58:24> "[TI] PaulS": <07:16:57> "SoE_Peter": hello u busy
<07:21:40> "[TI] PaulS": hey not really whats up
<07:27:07> "SoE_Peter": ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3QU8Ph7eBU&feature=youtu.be
<07:29:48> "SoE_Peter": what do u tjink of that
<07:30:41> "[TI] PaulS": yeah abit dodgey, i was in the area when it happened and i heard him tell you to put hands up but what i read in side chat i was under the impression you were looking at him but clearly you weren't so kinda RDM/bad RP but he can argue that you should of put your hands up i guess
<07:34:22> "SoE_Peter": i was about to put my hands on my head
<07:37:11> "[TI] PaulS": yeah but from his point of view he expects you to do that asap
 
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and about the incedent before the server dropped where u where so called speeding 100 past me isnt true at all either.

u where parked in the middle of the road and i initiated on u, ur reaction was to drive away so i took a few shot at ur wheel then u pulled over and made a run for the nearest building never did i fire a single shot at the driver.
all shot where aimed at the wheels


iam uploading the vid from when i saw you in ur hatchback sport


it will be 15mins and iam off to bed


will it was going to be 15mins now it says 52mins


cheek the vid in like 50mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4UQZg70ILg

 
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@cocky2015

Okay, do you have no common sense? 1 times 3 posts in a row and then later even 5?Sorry to do this since it will delay your unban appeal, but you are NOT supposed to post continuesly in a row and the use of some common sense would have told you this...

Just make up your mind and make one post or edit the previous one. I will make it three days not seven, count yourself lucky.

Khandamir, forum moderator

 
Just watched your 16 minute video,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4UQZg70ILg

Few points to raise.

#1 - You Used the Tilde Key to meta game my name at the beginning of the video.

4C) Using tilde key for anything other than identifying people who break rules

4B) You are not allowed to identify players in game via nametags. Police, NHS and UNMC ranks (only ranks!) are fine to get, as they “wear clothing with the rank on” unless they are undercover. (Not in their uniform or masked.)

4A) Using or broadcasting intelligence on sidechat or teamspeak to influence actions in game.

 
#2 According to your own video at 00:08 you told me to get out of my vehicle when I was already moving. And at 00:10 you started to shoot me, but you complain about me giving you 8 seconds before you die.

That my friend, is RDM.

3B) RDM - Random Death Match Definition:

Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban)
 
 
I look forward to seeing the admins input into this report.
 
Regards,
 
SPC Endrogen/ Sandy.
 
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OK... well that's an hour of my life I'll never get back. But some lessons will be learned from this waste of time, I'm sure.

The first lesson is... "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

SoE_Peter - you're henceforth banned for meta-gaming under Rule 4C. You've hanged yourself with your own flippin' evidence, and this has to go down in the annals of AltisLife.Co.UK for our forthcoming "most stupid criminals" clip show.

I'm minded to give Sandy a mild 'verbal warning' for a rather quick reaction (possibly over-reaction) to your turning around with rifle in hand, when he told you to stop and drop in the first video - however, it is clear from the 8min video (why did you loop it to 16 btw? Just to waste my life?) that you and  he have been fighting a running stalking battle for a considerable amount of time, and RP is quite firmly set up - even after the server-crash (no NLR - game continues on). I see that you (SoE_Peter) gave Sandy a bit longer when you called him to stop from the guard-tower, but that may just have been because you didn't have the shot or the range was too sketchy - and Sandy chose to run. Lucky bleeder, I'd say.

Sandy was also very lucky again when the server crashed just as you were entering the building and he therefore didn't die when you shot at him - but it's also fair to say that it would've been 50-50 that he might've shot you when you crossed the threshold of the doorway, if the server hadn't died. Shit happens. 

But the point is, RP was most definitely established and a conflict situation was very much on. Sandy got lucky, or was simply better than you, so the case against him for 'fail RP' is simply not supported.

However, your own video testimony, SoE_Peter, makes it perfectly obvious that you're cheating, and using the tilde-key to positively identify Sandy. "I've found Sandy" you say on TS, as you've pinpointed him using a technique which is banned, and for which you have apparently already been verbally warned by another admin (according to my sources).

I have no problem with your engaging his car in the way you did, or your stalking of him, calling in your mates in the chopper (if you had identified him without cheating, of course), or any of that; all good RP, really. Certainly the server-crash will have disjointed things a bit and may have put you off-guard, and perhaps Sandy had the drop on you, and may even have been a bit quick on the draw... but frankly, I would've put all of that down to bad luck, bad marksmanship, bad response to a hands-up warning (it really would've been best to run, or drop and hands-up, but you gimped about looking around with a weapon in your hands... what did you expect to happen?)

But all of that is a sideshow. You obviously got butthurt, so thought you'd report Sandy... and in the process, you nailed yourself as a cheater. So, with great pleasure, please accept this ban which I have the honour of presenting you, along with a small brass plaque that says "Oops! I did it again".

Appeals to the usual place. Grovelling optional. Repeats will be perma-perma. 

Good day.

 
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