George Papadopoulos
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- United Kingdom
Indeed firing from a vehicle into a vehicle will kill people in the vehicle, but people not in a vehicle taking shots from persons inside a vehicle will be VDM'd due to script.
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Samatlewis
Where are the Eggplants?
- Location
- Kent
It is allowed, just don't shoot people that aren't in a car because you'd be their new best Freind!
- Location
- Uk, Birmingham
Recently we have found BA pilots abusing helicopters for their gang members to do drug runs. My suggestion is to add a rule to stop BA pilots going to drug related areas. For exmaple we found a BA heli at the weed field and the drug dealer. People are abusing the fact that its a free heli and if it gets scrapped no one loses out. I suggest the ower of BA enforces that they cant go to drug realted areas or a rule is made.
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- Inside something moist.
Doohicky
Well-known member
- Location
- NC, USA
AFAIK we can kidnap/hijack the BA vehicles and their pilots... we can make them do anything we want then no?
Zeito
Computers are just well organised sand
- Location
- Northern Ireland
(2.15) British Airways are a whitelisted Role play faction, Therefore stealing BA helicopters or killing BA personnel will result in a ban (If you wish to Role play a hijacking please seek admin approval)
Doohicky
Well-known member
- Location
- NC, USA
hence... It is within the realm of possibility....
Also, the stealing BA helicopters thing was just added...
We found two BA helicopters just abandoned on the airfield a couple days ago, and took them... I suppose someone complained enough for a rule to be added, but what did they expect? They were just sitting unattended there, we drove by, and the helicopters started screaming at us "Take us with you!! DOOHICKY DON'T LEAVE US HERE!!!!"... I couldn't ignore that, that would have been negligence.
Also, the stealing BA helicopters thing was just added...
We found two BA helicopters just abandoned on the airfield a couple days ago, and took them... I suppose someone complained enough for a rule to be added, but what did they expect? They were just sitting unattended there, we drove by, and the helicopters started screaming at us "Take us with you!! DOOHICKY DON'T LEAVE US HERE!!!!"... I couldn't ignore that, that would have been negligence.
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Zeito
Computers are just well organised sand
- Location
- Northern Ireland
That's kind of like saying you found medic helicopters just abandoned at the Hospital, so you took them.
The airfield is a big base of operations for BA! No stealing! Stealing is bad mmkay?
I asked this question when I joined BA, The response i got was this (Paraphrased of course); We should not be working with any affiliated persons, gang/friends/so on. however if someone approached you, asked you to fly to a given location while they load cargo, and you then fly to a destination for them, as long as it is role played then we can make the most of it. However we are at all times to comply with police officers requests and so on.
As far as I am concerned one should be able to RP with what ever happens, rather than have a guideline of you can RP but you can't do *Insert a list here*.
At the moment BA is pretty limited with what it can do, Very few are interested in flying with us as people prefer to take their own choppers and store at the nearest car garage etc. BA could be improved by adding unique features; such as vehicle slinging. Being a white listed faction the people with in it should be trusted enough to use it properly. Further more the ability to store helicopters at any car garage should be removed, and a significant increase in the cost to take you helicopter from the garage would also push people towards other options.
- Location
- Uk, Birmingham
Well would you not RP searching the heli for drugs before you take off? On normal airlines no drugs weapons or anthing along those lines would be allowed on.
Also the drug areas are marked on everyones maps so surely you could just say "no".
I think thats because the BA helis are only rented. So when they have to log off they have to crash them to make them blow up or drump them in the middle of nowhere?
I'm only here for RP and I can assure you there's a lot more RP in me taking some guy wild flower collecting for his collection, then taking him to the pressing warehouse where he is having them preserved by a nice gentle man. Instead of going no I can only take you from a to b
Hoggie
Rebel
- Location
- Essex , UK
I have a quick suggestion to edit this rule -
[SIZE=medium](2.12) NHS Medic's The NHS Medics are here to help and revive people and have less than 10 slots on the 125 slot server, Therefore so they can RP as medics during the time they are online it is an ban-able offense to kill a medic or take a medic hostage, It is also ban-able to steal a medic's vehicle or helicopter. [/SIZE]
The suggestion -
Instead of making it banable too kill a medic , there should be situations in which you are able to kill one. For example a medic is combat reviving and they are not listening to the gun shots near them or the warning shots by the feet , so you have too shoot them so they do not revive a mass murderer with a MK 1. Another situation in which you should be able to kill a medic , is if they do not listen to warning about leaving an area and still peruse to be a nuisance and not care about if they are going to be shot or not.
[SIZE=medium](2.12) NHS Medic's The NHS Medics are here to help and revive people and have less than 10 slots on the 125 slot server, Therefore so they can RP as medics during the time they are online it is an ban-able offense to kill a medic or take a medic hostage, It is also ban-able to steal a medic's vehicle or helicopter. [/SIZE]
The suggestion -
Instead of making it banable too kill a medic , there should be situations in which you are able to kill one. For example a medic is combat reviving and they are not listening to the gun shots near them or the warning shots by the feet , so you have too shoot them so they do not revive a mass murderer with a MK 1. Another situation in which you should be able to kill a medic , is if they do not listen to warning about leaving an area and still peruse to be a nuisance and not care about if they are going to be shot or not.
- Location
- England
I would second this as if a medic is not listening to you when your are telling them to DNR and they do it anyway then if you have given them multiple warnings not to and they still do then if need be should be able to kill them as they are not valuing there life. But then again i guess a reply to this would to be knock them out.
Hoggie
Rebel
- Location
- Essex , UK
Had situations when i am on bounty hunter HQ and can not verbually tell a medic to stop reviving , so i shoot by his feet and keeps reviving. Its a rare thing but if a situation occurs it would be cool too see the rule edited.
Tom Brady
Well-known member
- Location
- Denmark
@SPC Hoggie
Exactly. I was at the HM some days ago, shot one of the many robbers, when a medic suddenly decided to go revive him. I shot at the medics feet like 10 times, where the guy then got up. Of course i wouldn't let this criminal keep on his work, so i tried killing him again, where as the medic stepped in front and got shot as well. He is now removed for doing it multiple times. But if that guy with the Big gun got away, it would've been even more dangerous.
Ryan Morrison
Active member
Hello everyone
I have re-read all the rules and I have came to a conclusion that some of them are not followed and also not accurate which leads to a misunderstanding and many bans.
[SIZE=medium](4.1) Using or broadcasting intelligence on sidechat or teamspeak to influence actions in game. (Punishment is a kick/ban)[/SIZE]
This rule is very open to interpretation as it only is about, no one can mention any game actions, positions and anything that is live and happening in game. The only thing that can be done acording to this rule is only talking about something not releated with the game events or when people are out of game, they can than plan what they will do in the future but not what is happening at this exact moment and also discussing any bannable actions done by anybody who wants to further discuss their actions.
[SIZE=medium](2.2) RDM - Random Death Match Definition: Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban) [/SIZE]
This rule is very general and as a bounty hunter I use a tazer as a weapon, it is not lethal but it is still said to be performing RDM if someone tazes somebody without any warnings. If only the name of the rule was changed to something like RSF (random shots fired) just because including the word "death" will make it unclear for some people because as long as the person doesnt "die" the person tazing will think it doesn not go under that rule. The definition is somewhat on point but it should include at the end that the bullets can be both lethal and non-lethal just to clear some things out.
I have re-read all the rules and I have came to a conclusion that some of them are not followed and also not accurate which leads to a misunderstanding and many bans.
[SIZE=medium](4.1) Using or broadcasting intelligence on sidechat or teamspeak to influence actions in game. (Punishment is a kick/ban)[/SIZE]
This rule is very open to interpretation as it only is about, no one can mention any game actions, positions and anything that is live and happening in game. The only thing that can be done acording to this rule is only talking about something not releated with the game events or when people are out of game, they can than plan what they will do in the future but not what is happening at this exact moment and also discussing any bannable actions done by anybody who wants to further discuss their actions.
[SIZE=medium](2.2) RDM - Random Death Match Definition: Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban) [/SIZE]
This rule is very general and as a bounty hunter I use a tazer as a weapon, it is not lethal but it is still said to be performing RDM if someone tazes somebody without any warnings. If only the name of the rule was changed to something like RSF (random shots fired) just because including the word "death" will make it unclear for some people because as long as the person doesnt "die" the person tazing will think it doesn not go under that rule. The definition is somewhat on point but it should include at the end that the bullets can be both lethal and non-lethal just to clear some things out.
- Location
- Inside something moist.
It is very clear within the RDM rule. If you SHOOT at someone without any form of roleplay we count that as random death match even if no one dies.
I dont get what you are saying about 4.1. You basically agreed with the rule in your argument.
I dont get what you are saying about 4.1. You basically agreed with the rule in your argument.
Ryan Morrison
Active member
Yes i understand that for the RDM rule this is how it works but I disagreed with the name of that rule as shooting is not always killing isnt it?
for 4.1 the ts server hosted by altislife.co.uk has multiple gang channels in which members report what is happening in real time even when dead (this should be monitored and those people should atleast be told to also use the in game mobile to message any info or talk in the provided group chats)