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Community Improvements (speak your mind)

Timo Langston

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Balls deep in Jasper
For the past year or so I have heard many complaints about the overall state of the server that seem to be becoming more and more frequent. These complaints being from all across the server ranging from your average crim, to police, to NHS, to staff themselves and everyone seems to be pointing the finger, or getting offended by the comments made. Also these complaints seem to be becoming more and more frequent as time goes on and peoples patience wears thin. I believe this is a big part of why the overall standard of RP has taken a nose dive. I want to make it clear that this not a post pointing fingers, but merely an attempt for people to suggest ways that we can all improve and try to repair some of the damage that has been done and hopefully bring the server back to what it once was.

Il start this thread off:
- I believe the level of police response has become very inconsistent an example being when I myself have hit a life invader and had no police turn up but then taking a chase for running a red light I've seen 9+ police cars. My suggestion to try and solve this is maybe having a limit to the amount of units that can attach to a call unless of course the stakes are raised i.e. firearms are pulled or panic alarms are used. I feel this will allow for more police units to be available to go to other calls then allowing others to have a piece of the pie so to speak.

- Crims now a days seem very bored and as a result they are quick to escalate and not allow RP to play out and this goes for everything from chases to just your average baldy talking smack. My suggestion to solve this is multi layered. My first thought is more content but that's to easy and pins the responsibility onto others. So a better idea would be for seniors in groups to be more strict on their members and set the standard that they want to see. This can be done multiple ways an idea ive had is to talk between other group leaders or even police seniors and arrange a RP story for the two groups to go down with a clear end goal in mind something with a bit of depth that can be played out for a week or two.

- My personal view on the staff team is they are very fed up with the majority of the player base and seem to be taking more control of the reins in certain aspects of the server. It seems the trust has gone for them were the players are concerned. My suggestion for this is to try and bring some of that trust back and allow the players to take more control over the way the server plays out i.e. allow people to sell businesses with out it all going through the COC. Also just allowing players in general to have more control over how their business is run. I fear that the direction things are going it will end up being that we are in RPUK's sandbox and we cant play with their toys unless given permission regardless of the amount of effort and RP that has been put in.

- My final comment for now is that the server performance seems to be getting worse day by day. I went from being able to have Quant and NVE and my game looking beautiful while still having a decent frame rate to now turning those shaders off and playing Microsoft PowerPoint in most areas of the server. Now I'm not entirely sure how to solve this as this seems like a more backend thing that I have no clue about. However an idea I've had is to maybe spread out some of the businesses/MLO's in the central city as it seems from AE down to Legion square is where I myself am affected worse.

I would encourage others to bring their suggestions forward not just for what I have said here but to add onto it in terms of issues they are facing and what they think can be done to improve the experience for everyone. I would like to avoid the finger pointing and the usual police V crim debate as that has been had many times and never leads to any change.
 
RPUK 2.0

- Re write all the drug scripts - make it worth making other drugs - make it less easy to just grind coke all day
- Launch a few new civ jobs - progression? Rep based pay?
- Increase petty crime activity (ATM robberies, boosting, better racing, House robberies, Mugging NPCs)
- Bring back turf map colours - IDC about realism this caused people to go explore out of intrigue and increased interactions
- If gangs die, take them off the people running it and give newer people a shot at it - too many gangs sitting inactive knowing they can go back in 2/3 months for a war and just play again
- Restrict the access of guns more, it used to be that only pistols made it onto the streets but now everyone just sells everything, the gun plug isnt as sacred as it used to be
- make QOL updates maybe a new UI etc
- RESET everything, who cares about continuity the economy is broken, its unrealistic everyone is rich. who cares if people have to start again at least they have purpose.
+1
Especially for that lovely colour on the map.
 
RPUK 2.0

- Re write all the drug scripts - make it worth making other drugs - make it less easy to just grind coke all day
- Launch a few new civ jobs - progression? Rep based pay?
- Increase petty crime activity (ATM robberies, boosting, better racing, House robberies, Mugging NPCs)
- Bring back turf map colours - IDC about realism this caused people to go explore out of intrigue and increased interactions
- If gangs die, take them off the people running it and give newer people a shot at it - too many gangs sitting inactive knowing they can go back in 2/3 months for a war and just play again
- Restrict the access of guns more, it used to be that only pistols made it onto the streets but now everyone just sells everything, the gun plug isnt as sacred as it used to be
- make QOL updates maybe a new UI etc
- RESET everything, who cares about continuity the economy is broken, its unrealistic everyone is rich. who cares if people have to start again at least they have purpose.
10000% agree.
 
whilst we're in the talks of making the community, just that bit better.

could we maybe revert the "anti-roll" script, as it doesn't work at all, or can we just get rid of rolling altogether?

nothing worse than rolling backwards, and all of a sudden doing a cork 360.
 
RPUK 2.0

- Re write all the drug scripts - make it worth making other drugs - make it less easy to just grind coke all day
- Launch a few new civ jobs - progression? Rep based pay?
- Increase petty crime activity (ATM robberies, boosting, better racing, House robberies, Mugging NPCs)
- Bring back turf map colours - IDC about realism this caused people to go explore out of intrigue and increased interactions
- If gangs die, take them off the people running it and give newer people a shot at it - too many gangs sitting inactive knowing they can go back in 2/3 months for a war and just play again
- Restrict the access of guns more, it used to be that only pistols made it onto the streets but now everyone just sells everything, the gun plug isnt as sacred as it used to be
- make QOL updates maybe a new UI etc
- RESET everything, who cares about continuity the economy is broken, its unrealistic everyone is rich. who cares if people have to start again at least they have purpose.

Quite honestly, could not agree more. The economy is totally fucked from my perspective. I've nicked people less than a week into the city and when looking on their PNC profile, they've got multi million pound cars with a nice house and are always carrying firearms of sorts. Nowadays you don't need any sort of connections or clout to buy guns. I went to the bins for the first time on a character I've not really played in years and instantly someone offered to sell me a firearm... It used to take time, effort and ROLEPLAY to build up those types of connections and resources.

The civ / crim scene needs a major amount of love, more than any other area. I understand the dev team are volunteers and time is a scarce commodity, but there is a whole world of resources out there. Maybe not everything needs to be made in-house and looking to outsource some of it is the way to go? Everything seems stagnant at the moment, people are bored. There's only so far the saying "roleplay everything" goes without any game mechanics to back it up.
 
RPUK 2.0

- Re write all the drug scripts - make it worth making other drugs - make it less easy to just grind coke all day
- Launch a few new civ jobs - progression? Rep based pay?
- Increase petty crime activity (ATM robberies, boosting, better racing, House robberies, Mugging NPCs)
- Bring back turf map colours - IDC about realism this caused people to go explore out of intrigue and increased interactions
- If gangs die, take them off the people running it and give newer people a shot at it - too many gangs sitting inactive knowing they can go back in 2/3 months for a war and just play again
- Restrict the access of guns more, it used to be that only pistols made it onto the streets but now everyone just sells everything, the gun plug isnt as sacred as it used to be
- make QOL updates maybe a new UI etc
- RESET everything, who cares about continuity the economy is broken, its unrealistic everyone is rich. who cares if people have to start again at least they have purpose.
I think you've made some very good points here,

I would like to address some of the comments around policing in the city as that is what i spend most of my time doing, i think the largest issue regarding police responses in the city is a balance issue, i would wholeheartedly agree with you that on some occasions the police response to what could initially be perceived as a relatively minor incident has been massive, and i can understand the frustration of some to that regard, but it all relates to one thing and one thing only;

GUNS

As stated in the comment i'm replying to, there is a lot of things that need re-balancing, and in my opinion the largest one is the ease of access to firearms, there have been cops kidnapped and shot for dealing with minor incidents alone, i personally have been shot a number of times for simply pulling a car over and asking the driver for their name, people storming police stations with 6-8 armed offenders. as things lay at the moment, the morale among officers is actually quite low as it is. I think putting cops in a situation where they'd been kidnapped regularly, robbed, murdered purely due to numbers would destroy the amount of officers that actually show up to city full stop.

In an ideal world, police would respond purely on the level of the threat at the time, and to an extent that is already done, for example BOBCAT being raided, its full of armed guards, so we will work on the assumption that the offenders are also armed as a means of dealing with the security. hence the large response for bank robberies etc.

the element of risk is part of why prolific offenders commit crime, the rush of getting away with something they could have done hard time for, but as has been mentioned when you can run bins for a week, buy a marky or a heavy rev, the reaction to police activity doesn't really match up (when do we have armed groups break into police stations to kidnap an officer because someone has been sent down for robbery etc).

though i do agree, this server is more of a "idealised" world of crim vs police and civilian life, i believe the economy just doesn't work to promote the criminality projected, right down to the fact that other than the firearms unit, police pistols are almost always outmatched by what the most basic of criminals can obtain very easily. so of course if someone is suspected of having an SMG capable of gunning down multiple officers, police will turn out in force to deal with that individual, as unlike criminals police are bound by the concept of force not only being reasonable but necessary, and the strategy currently implemented by police command HAS to be reactive, they have no choice and they're simply working with what they have, this could be solved by resetting the economy.

the police aren't perfect, there's change needed i agree, however, if police are simply limited with the server in its current state, i fear cops will stop coming in on their police characters and will simply be crims and we'll end up with a frag server on our hands.

The biggest thing this server has that other servers simply can't match, is the community, from the members of the community who have been here for years, the people who have been here only a few months (like myself) to the person who has logged into server for the very first time. especially as mention the dev team and staff are all volunteers, so their time is precious, they have jobs and families and outside commitments (as they should). I think this thread has been the most positive dialogue i've seen related to this issue, we need to work as members with the devs and staff, and they should listen to us, but we also need to listen to them in return when we all work together, meaningful changes can be made for the benefit of everyone.


TLDR - too many guns, too easy to get them, bins is fucked, lets work together as a community to get things sorted!
 
It is all well and good saying this type of stuff but as a community we need to get our sh!t together and make the server how it use to be....

Is there a way we could have a big community meeting in discord with staff and devs? of course it will be mental but I'm sure that the people who want to help will be mature and not ruin it for others etc

I'm not sure what can be done but I do not want to see this community die off as I'm sure others will say
 
It is all well and good saying this type of stuff but as a community we need to get our sh!t together and make the server how it use to be....

Is there a way we could have a big community meeting in discord with staff and devs? of course it will be mental but I'm sure that the people who want to help will be mature and not ruin it for others etc

I'm not sure what can be done but I do not want to see this community die off as I'm sure others will say
Community Meetings have happened before, There was a team dedicated to this with the Community manager title, For example used to go around all groups and areas and see for themselves what issues were happening ect ect.

The meetings used to work at first and Staff and Devs listend but over time the things getting brought up were silly and the meetings just became pointless. Maybe have 2 members from each group or faction to bring the points forward at these said meetings that way it can be kept controlled
 
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Community Meetings have happened before, There was a team dedicated to this with the Community manager title, For example used to go around all groups and areas and see for themselves what issues were happening ect ect.

The meetings used to work at first and Staff and Devs listend but over time the things getting brought up were silly and the meetings just became pointless. Maybe have 2 members from each group or faction to bring the points forward at these said meetings that way it can be kept controlled
I mean I wouldn't mind having a big meeting just depends on what others think of the idea
 
I mean I wouldn't mind having a big meeting just depends on what others think of the idea
A massive meeting would just be pointless mate, Too many people and no enough hours in a day. For Example the police bring 2 people, 1 command and 1 not. NHS the same Groups the same that way it will be like 20 people rather than 200 people screaming. Its worked well in the past just needs to be kept controlled.

I persoanlly feel everyone has a say in whats needed and whats not needed. I am all for change but as a community we need to change tooo, the mind sets of the player base for one. We are all here for one thing to enjoy ourseleves.
 
A massive meeting would just be pointless mate, Too many people and no enough hours in a day. For Example the police bring 2 people, 1 command and 1 not. NHS the same Groups the same that way it will be like 20 people rather than 200 people screaming. Its worked well in the past just needs to be kept controlled.

I persoanlly feel everyone has a say in whats needed and whats not needed. I am all for change but as a community we need to change tooo, the mind sets of the player base for one. We are all here for one thing to enjoy ourseleves.
Yeah 100% agree... If TWO people from each group and faction attend with notes from said groups

and then for staff and developers as many that can attend...

we have caused the server to end up where it is and we can sit on here all day saying this and that needs changing but we're the ones who can make it change for the better

for whoever might read this react if this is something you wouldn't mind doing!
 
Yeah 100% agree... If TWO people from each group and faction attend with notes from said groups

and then for staff and developers as many that can attend...

we have caused the server to end up where it is and we can sit on here all day saying this and that needs changing but we're the ones who can make it change for the better

for whoever might read this react if this is something you wouldn't mind doing!
The Meetings were a good thing and TBH the devs and staff dont really need to be there, The person leading the meeting can take all the notes and have a meeting with the staff/ devs/ Managment after. Everyone who would attend will be there to improve the quality of the community and not be there to be an idiot so 99% of them will be able to be trusted. (You will always get one idiot)
 
I do agree that the server seems to have been at a standstill for a while now. I think it's easy to point the finger elsewhere but the attitude of the player base is also a significant problem.

Instead of creating roleplay with the interactions we have with people, it seems the automatic mindset is 'new person = baldy' or 'not a gang member = baldy.' The majority of the player base have unwarranted egos, put people into boxes and mock/insult others (even on Discord) instead of roleplaying it out. It's really weird to witness!

Yes, there needs to be new things added to the server to keep it fresh and interesting. However the attitudes and overall standards of roleplay from everyone needs to be looked at.
 
so here is my view on this, I would like to see more fro crims to do Id love to see the gangs waring again I loved it when bingle was around because it was criminals being smart about things.

I would love to see an increase in driving standards at the moment people drive around the city crashing into everything and everyone without a care in the world knowing that all that will happen is they will eventually have to stop for 20 seconds repair and then off again IRL would you have someone driving 100+ though a busy city centre even in a police chase? id sugest not. This applies to civs and police I think police driving standards really need to improve.

I would love to see the police remove or phase out avant guarde however I dont think this can happen yet due to the risk it would pose. I have said this before but awhile ago firearms trialed keeping rifles in the weapon safes and only pulling them out when authorised to do so. THen suddenly there was a sharp rise is offciers being shot at, robbed and kidnapped so the resrictin was reomoved, and it went down then it was tried again and the same thing happened. Now looking more recent events recently officers have faced being sot at for the sligest thingsand crims have been acting so stupid. I pulled a guy over last week i think it was asked him his name he refused ot give it leading him to being arrersted with a gun on him thus there was a shoot out all because he wouldnt give his name now id thought a cirm who had a gun and dindt want to lose it would just give his name and not atttract as much attention to themselves. I think guns in general need ot be harder to come by this would redice the number of them and thier use and allow th epolice to de arm a little
 
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