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Vincent Unban appeal (Unbanned 27/03/15)
- Thread starter Vinc3nt
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puppy1004
Richest Kavala Hobo
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To Vinc3nt,
I'll be vouching for you as we had some good experiences. You need to promise me that you will change your toxic attitude towards the staff members, if you do this then I'll be happy to have you back in the community. Do not make me regret this, change your attitude and be nicer next time. If I even get the slightest feeling that I will regret this I will hunt you down in my ifrit and I will take you to places you have never been before.
Sincerely,
Puppy1004
+1 from my side
I'll be vouching for you as we had some good experiences. You need to promise me that you will change your toxic attitude towards the staff members, if you do this then I'll be happy to have you back in the community. Do not make me regret this, change your attitude and be nicer next time. If I even get the slightest feeling that I will regret this I will hunt you down in my ifrit and I will take you to places you have never been before.
Sincerely,
Puppy1004
+1 from my side
Vinc3nt
Community Banned
- Location
- Wales, UK
I'm not sure whether to be afraid or excited at that last part
But thanks both for the support.
Axolotl
Well-known member
- Location
- Amsterdam
Spent a lenghty time talking to Vincent on Teamspeak. He did apologise for his passive agressive behaviour. I have had a few good RP interactions with him before as well.
As I always believe people should be given a second chance, I hope he will as well.
As I always believe people should be given a second chance, I hope he will as well.
Nathan2820
Well-known member
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- London, England
I feel like it's starting a trend of aggressive behavior followed by empty apologies and it will only continue but that's just my opinion
Vinc3nt
Community Banned
- Location
- Wales, UK
This is the first time I've been reported for it but I did make an apology about a week ago for it too. It's definitley a work in progress but from my view it's improved alot. Claiming apologies are empty can never be proven either, in your case I tried to ask you on teamspeak, originally you said 'My evidence was good' and that you were happy to drop it, later on you changed your mind which is fine
I offered you a full compensation as well but got no response. At the end of the day all I can do is say sorry, I can say sorry on text or on voice and I know I mean it, as I said previously to stealthee whether or not it is believed is up to each and every individual
but saying that it will continue is based off little evidence and during the last month I have had no issues with my behavior other than said apology on the forums. Thanks for your input however and I encourage anyone else to post their truthful opinions as long as they are based on good reason / facts.
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To be completely honest, I don't think that Vinc3nt should be let back, for the sole reason of first having a personal Vendetta/Grudge against police as a whole, but then breaking a rule himself and then suddenly he apologizes for everything, it seems in his eyes, it's not alright for us to break rules (I don't condone or do break rules, I say us in a metaphorical manner as in us as a community) while he doesn't, but the second he breaks a rule and the others of us doesn't (again metaphorical, I do not condone nor do rule breakages) then he's sorry and all people makes mistakes.
Big No from here -1
-John/James/Sassy Lemmen
Big No from here -1
-John/James/Sassy Lemmen
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I am in agreement with SGT Nathan on this but my daily "like" quota has been exhausted You have wound a LOT of people up in this community, me being one but also been abusive/passive-agreesive to people that are decent and nice for no real reason other than, IMO, toxicity towards other people and their views.
You also seem hell-bent on getting people into trouble for very little reason, not me I might add, but you are well known for this.
People dont report you as they feel, in my experience, that you will be weeded out by your own actions soon enough. Its the little things like sending abusive/trolling texts to people, so nothing to really shout about on that front.
The mentors are doing a great job and you do soom to toss their help aside with distaste, Stealthee, Vlad and other mentors are not worthy of your attitude to them. Your comments do come across as downright disrespectful in most cases towards these people.
How many more times are you going to claim that you are sorry and going to make a fresh start and will lose the crappy attitude to others only to abuse peoples good will?
Im not convinced and that is my opinion based on my experience with you in game and in TS Im afraid.
Im with Lemmen on this also -1 from me too.
EDIT: Everyone deserves 2nd chances, but 3rd, 4th etc are taking the mick IMO.
You have wound a LOT of people up in this community, me being one but also been abusive/passive-agreesive to people that are decent and nice for no real reason other than, IMO, toxicity towards other people and their views. You also seem hell-bent on getting people into trouble for very little reason, not me I might add, but you are well known for this.
People dont report you as they feel, in my experience, that you will be weeded out by your own actions soon enough. Its the little things like sending abusive/trolling texts to people, so nothing to really shout about on that front.
The mentors are doing a great job and you do soom to toss their help aside with distaste, Stealthee, Vlad and other mentors are not worthy of your attitude to them. Your comments do come across as downright disrespectful in most cases towards these people.
How many more times are you going to claim that you are sorry and going to make a fresh start and will lose the crappy attitude to others only to abuse peoples good will?
Im not convinced and that is my opinion based on my experience with you in game and in TS Im afraid.
Im with Lemmen on this also -1 from me too.
EDIT: Everyone deserves 2nd chances, but 3rd, 4th etc are taking the mick IMO.
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Vinc3nt
Community Banned
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- Wales, UK
Strange to get a -1 from you. As of two days ago we were friends until this happened.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2khawn_hgjghj_creation
From this situation you were given a final and official police warning with several high ups in the police saying you were utterly in the wrong. Even though your welcome to your opinion I have had no prior negative incidents with you and this only one was your fault, before that we were considered friends.
As I reiterate. I have apologised twice, once for my attitude as a rebel and once in regard to this report.
3rd and 4th chance? I have never had an official warning for an admin or been reported in the past so i am unsure what your talking about in fact I have never talked to you or had any prior interaction.I am in agreement with SGT Nathan on this but my daily "like" quota has been exhausted
You also seem hell-bent on getting people into trouble for very little reason, not me I might add, but you are well known for this.
People dont report you as they feel, in my experience, that you will be weeded out by your own actions soon enough. Its the little things like sending abusive/trolling texts to people, so nothing to really shout about on that front.
The mentors are doing a great job and you do soom to toss their help aside with distaste, Stealthee, Vlad and other mentors are not worthy of your attitude to them. Your comments do come across as downright disrespectful in most cases towards these people.
How many more times are you going to claim that you are sorry and going to make a fresh start and will lose the crappy attitude to others only to abuse peoples good will?
Im not convinced and that is my opinion based on my experience with you in game and in TS Im afraid.
Im with Lemmen on this also -1 from me too.
EDIT: Everyone deserves 2nd chances, but 3rd, 4th etc are taking the mick IMO.
Again another case of me reporting someone to the police (same as ethan) and they decide to post here.
To all these people what solid evidence or facts do you have to back up these claims? I have never met gr00vy once in game, in TS or on the site. I have never talked to lemmen only when I reported him for me and ethan were fine before I made the report I linked earlier.
Really, it's quite tiring that people are acting like Vultures to a corpse and anyone who has anything against me that is totally unrelated is posting it here.
All the previous negative claims are fair and just however I am not going to sit silently and take negative comments from two people who are basing it on the fact that I reported them previously (lemmen having no other interaction with outside or inside of game), groovy who I never had ANY interaction with and a PC who not one day ago received his final warning point for abusing me, breaking RP and more in fromt of 6 - 7 people.
If you have a genuine reason to dislike me as in a negative experience in game, me slandering you on teamspeak, me slandering you on the forums then feel free to post, but don't post based on you being hurt of me legitmately reporting you or off some vague rumors.
On the topic of being hellbent to get Police in trouble, I am certain if I hated the police I wouldnt have rejoined then and been personally promoted to PC by SI Walt and SI Bob. In the case of a couple of police reports they were not warranted but in the case of Lemmen trolling, Keiron not valuing life and a couple of others they were and were dealt with respectfuly. If I see rule breaking then I report it and no player should be afraid to do so.
Also too lemmen: I have said I am genuinely sorry, offered comp, personally apologized to everyone because I felt it was the right thing to do, again accusing people of fake apologies is not justfiable, no one is above the rules, not me, not you and has been proven by even admins / high ranking officers being banned.
Again I state, please only post positive / negative feedback if you actually have had prior interactions with me.
Thank you.
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Let me say now, you say you had no interactions with me, which is true you reported me for "trolling" but don't forget. I'm a member of this community, and a long and upstanding one, you're actually the first person who ever reported me. And as you said no interaction with me prior, except when you wrote a very immature message to me on ts "I reported you on the PCC, have a nice day" which also just adds to see that you're not here for the greater good, you're trying to report all and everything you can, even long rule-abiding long standing members here. I'm not saying I wasn't in the wrong. Because what I did was considered "Immature" although, it was never seen as trolling, because it wasn't. And me sitting on the forums in class/whatevs just watching you reporting all and everything you can with no intend to resolve the matter..
My bitchflip is over
-James/John/Sassy Lemmen
Out.
Vinc3nt
Community Banned
- Location
- Wales, UK
As you state my report was justifable and you admit to having no prior interactions with me or any since then. Your adding this negative feedback based on a report in which you were verbally warned by an SI and the fact I told you that I had said 'I've reported you on the forums, have a nice day'? Thats enough reason for you to -1 someone? That comment is not immature in anyway, it is simply a statement to make you aware as I believe in not doing it behind peoples backs, the way you were acting was immature, me reporting you wasn't. :huh:
Also, if you wish I will drag up every report I have ever made.
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I'm simply stating that you're reporting people without the slightest intent to resolve the matter. And the verbal warning was not for BAD RP Nor trolling, it was basically just because it wasn't something you should do infront of... I'm getting off-topic. You seem like an extremely toxic person and you're not someone I'd like to be in this community, if the Admins think differently then so be it.
And from this point on I will not reply to this topic.
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I haven't had any interactions with you, apart from seeing what you have typed on the forums. That's why I feel hesitant to post here. I am a firm believer in second chances, even 3rd or 4th ones if they actually prove to be remorseful and try to improve.
I must, however, bring attention to one thing you wrote in your "Sorry" letter, which instantly made me have a bad feeling about you.
"Over the years and through other communities i've learned that I simply just don't gel well with other people and come to the conclusion that it's me / my personality which is the problem and sadly they cant really change, no matter how much I try I will end up snapping at someone, and too a degree it isn't my fault."
If you truly cannot change your personality, then i don't think you will fit in very well within the police force or this community. But then again, you have made several attempts to apologise and people have to keep in mind that most people do get second chances... I don't envy the admins having to make this decision.
I must, however, bring attention to one thing you wrote in your "Sorry" letter, which instantly made me have a bad feeling about you.
"Over the years and through other communities i've learned that I simply just don't gel well with other people and come to the conclusion that it's me / my personality which is the problem and sadly they cant really change, no matter how much I try I will end up snapping at someone, and too a degree it isn't my fault."
If you truly cannot change your personality, then i don't think you will fit in very well within the police force or this community. But then again, you have made several attempts to apologise and people have to keep in mind that most people do get second chances... I don't envy the admins having to make this decision.
Vinc3nt
Community Banned
- Location
- Wales, UK
@Lemmen
Report list (Starting from Most recent):
Failed reports:
evidence)
evidence)
Four people banned, two rejected because no video, one report rejected on fault of my part.
Police Complaints (From most recent):
http://www.dailymoti...hgjghj_creation(Handled on TS, PC ethan giving final warning)
warning given)
removed from server /Police)
retrained)
action taken, miscommunication on both parts possibly)
4 officers disciplined in some way, 1 case of miscommunications
Overall: Two false / unfavorable reports.
Report list (Starting from Most recent):
Failed reports:
evidence)
evidence)
Four people banned, two rejected because no video, one report rejected on fault of my part.
Police Complaints (From most recent):
http://www.dailymoti...hgjghj_creation(Handled on TS, PC ethan giving final warning)
warning given)
removed from server /Police)
retrained)
action taken, miscommunication on both parts possibly)
4 officers disciplined in some way, 1 case of miscommunications
Overall: Two false / unfavorable reports.
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- Under a rock
And all the reports without any form of resolve attempts, If you would've sent me a message on ts stating "Hey dude, the way you were acting at the garage in athira before was pretty bad, I think you shouldn't do that" and I would've been like "Oh I'm sorry, we were just having fun and then we were lolling a bit round and things got out of hand, yeah man I'm sorry it won't happen again" Instead I get a "I reported you, have a nice day". And that's why I think you're toxic, not because you report people.
And now I'm not going to reply to this topic (Not good at keeping this, so let's leave it at a maybe.)
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Vinc3nt
Community Banned
- Location
- Wales, UK
To a degree yes it is my personality, some people are calmer some people are more aggressive, that doesn't mean I unable to control it as proven in a month of good behavior, in this case I believe I just went too far. This is my 1st ban / report as I keep stating so the fairest thing to do is give someone who is actually sorry and done all in their power to make amends a chance of reducation surely? Even though this isn't 'Real life' it's a similar thing to a prison sentance, if a person messes up and commits something illegal are they sent to prison forever, or reducated and come out better people? Usually the latter.
Thank you for your reasonable / constructive contribution, that is what I want. I WANT help to get better at roleplaying, to be a more sociable person, to fit in more with this community. A person cant change until he knows what hes doing is wrong, I didn't know that on an official level what I was doing was wrong until the last couple of days, now that I know I can adapt to that and it wont happen again, give me the tools to fix the way I act and I will use them.
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