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Unban Appeal - sneakns - GTA RP

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Unban Appeal for sneakns 

In-game Name: Harvey Wayne

Server: GTA RP

Steam ID: 76561198181313185

Ban ID: !!rpuk10243!!

Reason given for your ban: C2.3, G1.1 - Forum Report

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.: To be honest, I'm not sure of why I am banned. I believe I was "combat logging" which I do not recall doing so on purpose. All I can remember is doing taxi job's and hanging out with buddies. I have gotten killed for no reason at all many times by people. I believe I only combat logged once which I will admit. Why did I combat log may you ask? I got stopped by a gang member once that I have never met at all before and were killing my friend instantly, no reason at all, no role play just instant dead like that. Why did that happen? Because he accidentally bumped his bike into the gang member's bike, tiniest scratch but instead he gets killed for that and dumped into the water, I thought that was pathetic and not even "Serious RP" as this server says it is.

I have combat logged since that has happened because I saw some gang member trying to kill me for no reason at all. I obviously combat logged because that's not just RP at all. I would love an explanation if that is somehow role play from the gang member. I'm pretty sure you don't go around killing innocent men for no reason and shouting, swearing at them and acting all tough just because they're in a gang.

Why should we unban you ?: I believe I should be unbanned because I won't combat log again. I didn't know combat logging to avoid failed roleplay. Yes I could have reported the gang member, I would've loved to but I wasn't sure how to get their ID as it doesn't pop up on the screen. Is there some sort of way I could learn how to do this? It would be very helpful indeed. I do apologise for my actions at all cost but this was never on purpose. I'm not sure if crashing or internet going off counts as "combat logging" if so then I'm sorry about that too, I do intend to rejoin and carry on the roleplay but they sometimes not there anymore so I just move on with my game. It'll not happen again, I can tell you that for sure, you got my word that I'll not combat log as I never intended to do it on purpose. I've been grinding hard on this server for days. I got business with people in this server and I would love to keep up with my business with the people. Combat logging will not happen again, I can promise you that. Thank you for understanding and reading. I'm now currently re-reading the rules as I published this application. - Harvey Wayne

Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes

 
Hello Sneakns, I can't help but find it ironic that the reason you stated for combat logging is ''I saw some gang member trying to kill me for no reason at all''. 
Let me shine some light on why you're currently banned and we can continue from there.

Here's the player report that got you banned:



@sneakns

 
Ello mate, yeah I have no fucking clue what he's on about.

Tried clicking on the link and it doesn't even pop up. 

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Nice one!

Love the evidence of "That clip does not exist". 

 
Are you saying that this report isnt valid? 

If so im afraid i cant help you any further and the appeal will be closed.
However if you want to continue the appeal, explain your views on the incident provided in the ''Please (in detail) describe the incident:'' section.

@sneakns

 
Sorry for late reply, I have COVID I haven't been well for few days. Just recently got back on.

Well my views on the incident. I have no clue what the person means by "attacked in hospital". I don't recall or remember attacking anyone in the hospital. I don't attack people for no reason. I only ever do self-defense, if people attack me of course I'll attack back which is known in self defense. 

I still do not understand a single thing the person that reported me is saying. He clearly doesn't have proof that I "attacked" or my mate. I never have attacked. I would loved to see the video but I don't see one so it doesn't help. When he said "Doesn't seem like they're here to RP but just grief people instead. GTA Online must be down or something. Completely false, we did not join Roleplay UK just to "grief" We actually had many businesses with people. We were gaining our reputation to the server slowly as we were decently new to the server. 

If I were here to grief, I wouldn't of waited a month to appeal again, I was actually interested in the server and was enjoying it. Also I thought I got banned because I "combat logged" apparently. I may have logged out but that could be due to internet losses as back then my WiFi wasn't doing it's best but it is sorted now with internet boosters I've received for my PC. 

Thank you for reading,

Harvey Wayne

 
There is proof, the report is right there. The video is down cause of what is probably the time from then until now.
But read what the member of staff is saying in the comments.

 
The Staff's comment is basically literally only talking about the other user. That the other user punched someone in the hospital bed. I never punched anyone in the hospital bed as I'm pretty sure I was in the hospital bed myself as I was possibly ran over by people for no reason that happen's a lot in the server but people get away with it somehow. 

The only valid point I see there is that I logged out but I could've logged out at any point due to connection as I explained before that my WiFi wasn't great before hand or I had to go. The comment is all about the other user. I do not remember "Punching" a man in the hospital bed and "he sits in the passenger seat of an abandoned ambulance." I never sat in the ambulance seat aswell. This is clearly about some other user, I don't see how this is relevant to me at all. 

 
Lets not play the "deflecting game" shall we. 

Going through the response and I'll quote "That the other user punched someone in the hospital bed". Now in this only one person was banned for RDM/Combat logging, The other was banned for G1.2 and Combat logging, So in turn the attacking another player is in relation to yourself, Not the another party.

So lets go back to the start where you attacked another player before combat logging, Why was this done?

 
Greetings hope you're doing great, just saw this message.

I do not understand where you've received that I was "attacking another player". I do not remember attacking another player and I do not see the reason why I would attack another player. My Ban Report is "Combat Logging" (C2.3, G1.1 - Forum Report) and I can admit to that because I did combat log. Therefore I deeply apologize for combat logging. 

I do admit to attacking an gang member before, I had a reason though because he attacked my crew member and held him as hostage. I heard about that news then I thought that we would need revenge for my crew member and teach them a lesson. That was the only time that I attacked without being attacked first. It was a fair fight, they were aware that they were going to get attacked by me so they were prepared as I expected.  If that was against any rules then I'm sorry about that, I honestly didn't know at the time. 

It would be very lovely to see the proof that I'm being accused of "attacking another player" because honestly I'm getting confused, I feel like you're mixing me up with someone that attacked another player in the hospital, the staff comment in the report did say there was two players but I know that I didn't attack someone in the hospital bed. Like I have said previously I only attack when I'm being attacked first for defence purposes.

I've re-read the rules when I first got banned and month later when I appealed again, I'm more aware of the rules now, apologies if I ruined anyone's experiences.  I hope this made your views more clearer of what happened in my point of view.

 
We are going off the same report as linked above and the response from the staff member provided as you are. Now you have been referencing wanting to see the evidence of you doing this, Again this would of been viewable around the time the report was actioned, However you are appealing months after the ban was given so the video could of come down due to the time gap on how it was stored. 

This is no way plays off what you did in this situation, As from what I'm seeing in your responses if there is no video to be viewed at this date then it's not a valid point (Since the report is valid as is the response given by the staff member), However you we're seen breaking both the RDM and Combat logging rules as outlined by the staff member in the report that has been also provided above. 

To save going around in circles, I'll pop a few questions for you. Why we're these rules broken by yourself and why did you feel combat logging more so was acceptable to do in this situation?

 
Okay yeah understandable,

At the time I thought It wasn't a big deal to combat log, It was stupid of me to combat log at times and I have realised that now. As I have said before previously that I have re-read the rules twice now and I understand them way better now.

I have combat logged only few times, I got ganged up on for no reason and has already killed us many times before. We were pretty new to the server aswell, trying to get started. It was the gang that's near the tattoo shop on the upper map of the GTA near the hills, that's where the gang was. So I had enough then just combat logged because I thought it was unfair for them to just killing us pretty much no reason. 

I will never combat log again even if I do get killed for no reason and mugged, I will just allow it because I realise now that you just got to accept it. I could always make plans and become stronger overtime to prevent that from happening. 

I deeply apologize for combat logging but there were few times that were due to WiFi but that's sorted now since months ago now. I'll give you my word that this would never happen again and I will not even think about it. I understand the rules way better now and I know what to do and not to do. 

I hope this helped,

Thank you,

 
So what lead to the combat logging as a whole, Frustration, Anger, Upset how situations we're going? (I'm talking about this time and the previous you have admitted to). Overall it's not a good idea to break any rules however if this is a reoccurring thing then there is an under lying issue that keeps coming up. Can you explain why this is a rule that is broken more on your behalf?

With this in mind how can we be sure you won't simply break more rules should we allow you another chance?

In relation to the rules you have been banned for, Could you quote both and explain in your own words why you believe we have such rules in place and their importance? 

 
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I combat logged mainly due to frustration because I kept getting killed for no reason and It was slightly annoying as I didn't have clipping software at the time. Meaning that people just got away with it. Now I have a clipping software I think It's called "Medal" so I started using that more. 

It is indeed not a good idea to break any rules and that's why I have made sure that I re-read the rules twice and understood them now. I'll make sure to not break rules again and you have my word on that. If I truly didn't like this server at all and wanted to "break rules". I wouldn't of waited a month to appeal again and still in contact after 2 months now. 

I have learnt my mistakes and I do truly enjoy this server. I can promise you that I'll not combat log again even if It may be annoying, it is what it is. 

Rules are in the server to make sure that everyone has a fair amount of experience in the server which I completely understand. I will make sure that I won't combat log again and If I did ever get killed for no reason which was pretty annoying, I can now clip for evidence and prevent people killing others for no reason as they did towards me. 

 
There are many things you still could of done, For one informing us in ooc chat. I'm sure you have seen other players putting "X Don't do that" ect or asking for staff if we can overlook a situation. Why didn't you attempt to do this if you believed a rule was being broken? 

In relation to being frustrated, Is this a common thing or just when you believe a rule has been broken? If we do give you another opportunity how can you assure us that you won't let your emotions get the better of you should either one you feel a rule break happened or two the situation doesn't go your way?

In relation to the rules, You've mentioned you've read them a few times, Can you quote the rules you we're banned for and in your own words explain why you believe we have such rules and the importance of them?

 
Hello again, 

Indeed there were things I could've done but at the time I wasn't aware and I wasn't sure how you could see the player's ID above their heads that's why I didn't use the OOC chat as I didn't know their IDs. I've solved that now a days, I have clipping software so I can always report them if they broken rules and show evidence with the clip. 

I do not get frustrated often, to be honest I barely get frustrated but I suppose I got frustrated when I was playing for hours, grinding things and trying to get reputation into the server. I made deals with people and made new mates. I would say reason why I got frustrated because I got killed for no reason at all few times. I did try to report it to the police station before as back then I didn't know how to see the IDs and have no clipping software. 

I can assure you that, I won't let the emotions get better of me because I will be reporting those that do break the rules towards me. I'll record for proof then show the Staff for evidence. I'll be more prepared next time and make sure mine and everyone's experience doesn't get ruined. I have been appealing towards you since November 3rd and now is 20th November. I am dedicated and very sorry about my mistakes and I won't let them ever happen again. 

I've admitted many times before that I did combat logged. I believe the rules are there to obviously to make sure that everyone has a fair experience when they're playing at Roleplay.co.uk. It would be unfair for other people if people were breaking rules and ruining their possible experience. 

Thank you and hope this helped,

 
Whilst yes you have admitted to combat logging prior, I'm trying to see if you know why we have the rule overall and more so the RDM rule and for you to provide in your own words why we have such rules and the importance of the two you we're banned for. So as mentioned above if you can quote both rules and elaborate as mentioned please. 

 
The official rule that I broke was - (C2.3) Combat logging - Logging out at any point during RP is exploiting. Some examples of this include: logging out during a firefight, being chased by the police, arrested by the police, while dead awaiting a medic, logging out in order to save gear, rage-quitting, logging out whilst restrained/detained. Punishment is a permanent ban. Staff can make an informed decision depending on if you’ve made an attempt to resolve the issue. We do suggest you attempt to re-join the server and continue the roleplay (try messaging them with the mobile system first).

Reason for having such a rule in place so it keeps the RP experience great for everyone, it stops any RP that is not in favour of the other user to not just dip out of situations that don't work for them. Examples If you are getting chased by multiple officers for a crime you committed and you got caught, you could just "task manager" the application and re-join and spawn else where by the "choose you're spawn location menu" so it just keeps everything fair for both parties.

For the "RDM Rule" It's basically random killing so fail RP. The reason why this rule is a thing is because other wise servers would be chaos, RP wouldn't work at all you would get trolls constantly and just ruins the overall experience of it all. It's a very important rule I would say due to it keeps roleplaying in order.

 
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