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Unban Appeal - Neb - GTA RP

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Neb

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Server: GTA RP
Character Name: Neb Yahontov
Steam ID: 76561198291545787
Ban ID (just the numbers): 16851
Ban Reason: c2.3
Why do you think you were banned: I was banned for combat logging. i'm also banned off every Rpuk discord. But i have been informed that i am not 1.6d so i am appealing them too : ).
Why should we unban you: It's been over 6 months since my original ban and I can't really defend what I did. That shit was just dumb. I've basically not interacted with Rpuk for about 5 months and would like to return, because of this disconnect I think I have gotten out of the downward spiral I was in. This spiral caused me to be very jaded about the server and how I felt like it was regressing. I've been a member of the community for about 5/6 years now and I think it got to me a bit that the server was becoming stale for me.

There's not really much for me to say about my game ban as it was a clear rulebreak. Looking back i shouldnt of been so careless to log off, even though at this time I did think I may have gotten away with it. I've played this server enough to know that i shouldn't be doing that and if i do get unbanned i can say i will not get banned for that again. Ive not even played fivem since august so i would like to get back into the server and just chill i'm not really looking to join a gang again and if i were to be unbanned my RP would be focused more around interacting with the server not fighting wars and being deep in gang beef like previously. I really just want to get back on the server to have the option to play with friends and interact with new people. I'm not looking to be uber sweat like I used to so if I was to get unbanned I would like to think I wouldn't be back here again.

Ive taken a break from playing games in general since august (check the steam profile if you want haha) so i've kinda realised how engrossed in the game i actually was and i was able to take a step back. Playing the server again would be something I would enjoy again and I hope that I will be able to return. I'm looking to have a chill experience and have fun with the community again.

The discord bans i can't really say anything about them apart from i apologise for the toxicity towards staff as i said i was very engrossed in the game and forgot to look at the server objectively and realise people do this as a hobby and might not have all the time in the world to dev. I do get quite passionate and toxic occasionally so I do apologise if anyone was offended.

I know this might not be the normal ban appeal where people beg to return and claim enlightenment to the rules after a few days but i'm being truthful when i say i haven't played in long time and if i get unbanned i would be playing casually and not be looking to get back into gangs majorly. Feel free to ask me questions about the ban but I can't really say anything other than that shits dumb and it won't happen again.

Hope whoever reads this is doing sound.
Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes
 
Hello @Neb

Few questions for you.

There's not really much for me to say about my game ban as it was a clear rulebreak.

Why did you try to lie so strongly about it then? What's changed to make you finally hold your hands up? Had you done this from the beginning, odds are you would've been back in the community months ago...

The discord bans i can't really say anything about them apart from i apologise for the toxicity towards staff as i said i was very engrossed in the game and forgot to look at the server objectively and realise people do this as a hobby and might not have all the time in the world to dev.

You had been banned from the game server for over a month when you decided to slate our volunteer dev team on discord - I fail to see how you were engrossed in the game at that stage? What made you act out in this way?
 
Why did you try to lie so strongly about it then? What's changed to make you finally hold your hands up? Had you done this from the beginning, odds are you would've been back in the community months ago...
Well a lot of what i said was true i didn't actually see him when i logged off. However, i knew i had fucked up and tried to blag it, cant really defend it, i just wanted to play as much as i could because of what was going on at that time (basically the most important time in grove for years). Now that's no excuse for lying to staff, but that's the truth i know now that's stupid but at the time i thought i could maybe get away with it. Since probably September, October time i distanced myself from a lot of the community and had the chance to reflect on my ban but also me playing fivem (in short i realized how cringe i was being) and i wanted to take a break. I think now its near Christmas and i have some more free time to be active again i would like to play again but with a more leveled perspective.
You had been banned from the game server for over a month when you decided to slate our volunteer dev team on discord - I fail to see how you were engrossed in the game at that stage? What made you act out in this way?
I was banned yes, but i was still majorly active in many rpuk discords (i've been kicked from em all now ahaha) and grove where still at war with many gangs. I was still playing fivem ALOT at this time so was still in the mentality that i had around my ban and it all lead to a few comments from random people who sent me over the edge and i kinda waffled my half baked opinion on discord and got myself banned. Which i deeply regret as i feel i probably hurt some people in the process of these comments. I will also say that at this time i felt like i was in a downward spiral rp wise with everything i wanted to do rp wise being shut down (high grade meth / Drug rp). i think this caused me to have a lapse in my judgement and lash out at people which i adamantly apologize for as i didn't really understand the situation at the time.

Overall there's not much more i can say on the discord stuff other than i was being cringe and i got banned for it. I hope to be unbanned from discord to interact with the community that i have been in for half a decade and i think that even though it was a harsh comment to make, that i can only apologize for, i would love to play again and hopefully move past these dumb comments. I appreciate all the dev team has done for the server and i hope non of them hold these stupid comments against me moving forward even if i don't get unbanned.
 
Hello @Neb .

i knew i had fucked up and tried to blag it, cant really defend it,

I'm glad to see some ownership of your actions.

I've got some questions for you below:

  • If you were to be unbanned - how would you be a positive addition to the community?
  • What are your plans for roleplay should you return? What stories/adventures/etc. do you want to play out?
  • How do we know we won't see a repeat of this behaviour on discord?
  • If you found yourself in a similar situation in future, how would you deal with it differently?
 
If you were to be unbanned - how would you be a positive addition to the community?
  • What are your plans for roleplay should you return? What stories/adventures/etc. do you want to play out?
I've heard that drugs have been fixed in the server so i would look to start up the old scenarios and stories i was trying to create back in the day. I think this is something that i can apply myself to and make interesting story lines with other players, i would also like to develop my relations with some of the other gangs in the server and see if i could help some new gangs start up and be able to stick around.

I think i would also be a positive member of the community as i would try to avoid toxicity where possible and help newer players avoid breaking rules as i know a few people in grove are quite new and i would like to help them out and make them better gang members and better players for the server. I would be looking to rp over gunplay and take a slower approach to rp going forward.
How do we know we won't see a repeat of this behaviour on discord?
I'm gonna try to avoid interacting too much on the rpuk discords as i know it can get heated, if i'm in groups i'm happy for one of the leaders to mute me so i can just look at the channels but not type. in the main discord i am not really planning on being active in the channels too much but i am also happy to be muted if staff want to as this can show my commitment to not being a idiot again. Otherwise, im kinda over the toxic part of fivem now its very cringe so im not really planning on getting into the part of the server/fivem again so im very confident i will not be back here with a discord ban.
If you found yourself in a similar situation in future, how would you deal with it differently?
For the discord ban i would just avoid commenting on situations im not directly involved in again, taking the time to ponder if what im gonna say will offend people and decided to not message if that is the case. In some occasions i may just avoid reading the channel if other have told me its getting toxic in there, i will try to avoid these situations again where possible.

The combat log in game is pretty basic cant really say anything other than that's not happening again as i wont try to be a clever and get one over on staff. I will always just see where the rp leads even if this leads to me losing the situation. (i have never had a issue with combat logging before so im not planning on getting banned for sommet so stupid again)
 
Hello @Neb .

Thank you for your detailed answer.

I've heard that drugs have been fixed in the server so i would look to start up the old scenarios and stories i was trying to create back in the day. I think this is something that i can apply myself to and make interesting story lines with other players, i would also like to develop my relations with some of the other gangs in the server and see if i could help some new gangs start up and be able to stick around.

Would you not be interested in engaging in any new avenues of roleplay? Something on the legal side? Maybe even a whitelisted faction?

You said so yourself on your initial appeal submission:
i would like to get back into the server and just chill i'm not really looking to join a gang again and if i were to be unbanned my RP would be focused more around interacting with the server not fighting wars

I'm gonna try to avoid interacting too much on the rpuk discords as i know it can get heated, if i'm in groups i'm happy for one of the leaders to mute me so i can just look at the channels but not type.
i would try to avoid toxicity where possible
muted if staff want to as this can show my commitment to not being a idiot again.

I can see how you've explained how you'd avoid a repeat of your behaviour in future.

If this was truly the case however, then none of the above would be needed no? We could trust you to act the same as everybody else within the community, as a reasonable adult?
 
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If this was truly the case however, then none of the above would be needed no? We could trust you to act the same as everybody else within the community, as a reasonable adult?
I Would hope staff do not need to use any of these measures. However i said them in good faith of things im willing to accept if staff want to feel more secure in their decision.

However, i can promise the staff team that this will not happen again as the things that lead me to act like this are no longer a factor, Im a long standing member of the community and i would hope that my time on the server can be a motivator for you to trust that i can be trusted as until the beginning of this year i was a good addition to the server not being banned for a few years and receiving no reports and regularly helping new players out and creating stories with gangs like ocult, vagos and marabunta and countless smaller gangs ive given their first deals to and pushed them to be good members of the server.
Would you not be interested in engaging in any new avenues of roleplay? Something on the legal side? Maybe even a whitelisted faction?
As i said in the appeal i have gained more time in this holiday to play but as the end of this holiday slowly approaches i will not have the time like i used to maybe only being able to play 1 or twice every so often. I wouldn't have time to create any meaningful stories if i was split between two characters and i feel like this would be forcing myself to water down my rp in order to meet a criteria. I understand if this means i cannot continue with this unban but i just want to honestly say i would love to agree with you and become a lawyer, but i simply do not have the time to play two characters a meaningful amount. I want to play this server as a time to relax and have fun and i don't want to be held to a condition i cannot achieve as i feel like i would just be lying to you saying i would be happy to do it and actually can do it.

Im happy to look into making my main character more focused on being a better civilian as i could get a job at a local shop as i know Tommo (grove gas owner) and im sure i could get a job working there providing some good civ rp to the south side, as since gas stations cannot be owned by gang members i was forced to leave the shop and avoid running the shop altogether. Which was a shame as i did really enjoy running the shop. I would hope as my character has a long standing ties to gangs i would not be forced to never play a crim character again but im happy to play a more chilled character being employed by a shop or being a middleman for gangs as this is some interesting rp route i could take as i used to use the barber shop near grove to sell drugs from and sort issues between gangs i feel like this was some cool rp i could return too. (maybe playing a sort of gang OG kinda roll, still semi involved but not being involved in wars ).

Hope this finds you well.
 
Hello @Neb .

i feel like this would be forcing myself to water down my rp in order to meet a criteria

I understand and agree with you, I wouldn't enforce such a condition in someone's unban appeal.

This is your third permanent ban. Despite this, I'm happy to give you a final chance to return to the community.

However, if you find yourself banned for whatever reason within the next three months, you'll be straight back to a permanent ban, and your odds of returning
nil. If you're found anywhere near toxic behaviour on discord/forums/etc., then you'll be removed.

Please don't spoil this for yourself.

Appeal Accepted - Unban Issued
 
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