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Unban Appeal - Maro S - GTA RP

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Maro S

Maro S

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Unban Appeal for Maro S 

In-game Name: Maro Scofield

Server: GTA RP

Steam ID: 76561198450795525

Ban ID: IIrpuk15008II

Reason given for your ban: C1.7, G3.1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.: Hello I hope you're having a great holiday.
I'm honestly a bit confused as to why this ban was placed, the only thing i can think of that could have been the reason behind my ban is to do with a recent scenario were i took stuff from the Padrinos. Once the rest of the gang noticed stuff had been taken they were saying in discord that who ever did it was going to be banned, however, i was confident that i hadn't done anything wrong so i didn't feel a need to defend myself on that occasion. I have plenty of evidence and witnesses to my side of this and ill be happy to explain it to the best of my ability.

If the scenarios i mentioned is not the cause for the ban then i have no idea what i could have done, i hope that which ever staff member deals with this unban can help me understand what i have done to justify it.

Why should we unban you ?: I have been on this server for a while now and have always tried to provide the best roleplay quality and respect the rules that have been put into place. I'd like to think that I'm not known as a troublemaker on the server

Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes

 
Good evening @Maro S, I hope all is well! 🙂

It is indeed to do with that scenario, I will go into more detail with you momentarily but for now please could I ask you to explain your recent RP with the Padrinos and the reason behind you taking items and leaving a note? 

I look forward to your response! 

 
Good afternoon @Danoo, thank you getting back to me!

This was something that was planned and discussed between my character and Cypress a while ago. 

There are many different reasons behind me resulting into this. This is the story I wanted for my character and the note that was left was not by me, it was Jeep, and we were hoping to make it fun and give a hint so that the Padrinos would engage in further rp with us. 

Jeep and Cypress had their own reasons to rob the Padrinos. I've been wanting to leave the Padrinos for a long while now, they’ve treated my character less than she deserved and i felt under appreciated for the time and effort I have put in to the family as well so Maro definitely had motivation to do some damage on her way out. Since the rest of Padrinos are never about we made a plan to rob the fire exit and the diner. 

For what its worth, cypress did break into the house some days earlier to give the Padrinos a heads up on that something was coming.

It feels terrible to be banned for what I believed was an RP issue, especially since i put effort into making an interesting roleplay story for them and also i was not contacted to discuss what had happened in a liaison where questions like this could have been cleared up.

Thank you for your time

 
Good evening @Maro S, thank you for the response! 🙂

Here is where my confusion begins, let's look at your recent login times:

06/10/2023 - Logged out 21:45
22/11/2023 - Logged in 21:25 and logged out 21:31 (6 minutes online)
07/12/2023 - Logged in 22:11 and logged out 23:33

So within the last 2 months, you've had 6 minutes on the server.
How have you managed within 6 minutes to put a lot of effort into building an interesting roleplay story for them all as well as have someone give Padrino's a heads up that something was coming without even being online? 

 
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Good evening @Danoo, thank you for getting back to me!

Yes it is true that i have been unable to play the server as much as I used to, however like I said, this was planned a long while ago but got delayed for various reasons one being me going to a different country for a long time then coming straight back to university.

I do think we put effort into making it interesting for the Padrinos, certainly alot more than the average RP scenario. We could have left no traces what so ever but deliberately chose to do so. I personally think if we had the chance the carry this roleplay on, there would of been a great storyline.

Cypress tripping alarms at the house beforehand was something they came up with on their own. I mentioned it to prove to you that we were there to create a story, it wasn't just a simple robbery. This was the heads up that we gave.

I did coordinate with cypress on discord but nothing beyond finding a time that would be good for meeting up. I would never go against the rules, as I respect them being placed.

I think there was a huge misunderstanding with this situation and I really hope it can be cleared up.

Thank you for your time and patience 😊

 
The problem here is you've been having all this "roleplay" planned via discord, not involving padrinos but with cypress. I understand "big" roleplay requires planning but your victim here had no build up.

The only roleplay you had provided to them after the fact was a lie that didn't give them anywhere to go. I enjoy the idea, what I don't enjoy is the way this actively played out.

You've stated you've been unable to play as much but this kind of roleplay REQUIRES more, if you knew you couldn't provide the time it takes for this storyline then why even pursue it?

Now the big question I have for you is, why continue the lie ooc? Why not just explain there is a bigger story at play (you wouldn't have to give details only that it was to initiate a great storyline). You gave the impression you had 0 interest of continuing this story, 0 enthusiasm for roleplay.

Why would you not call this planning with your involvement off? Rather than logging on to clear storage and log off as your last hurrah?

 
Hello @PsianaRama thanks for your reply!



I think there must have been some sort of misunderstanding here, there was loads of rp provided to everyone involved especially the Padrinos. I did happen some time ago though, spread out between multiple different scenarios, if there is a time frame for when certain RP can take place or becomes irrelevant due to time passed I would appreciate if staff could explain or clear this up for me. I am sorry you didn't enjoy the way this was built up and all I can do is improve on further situations as not everyone is perfect but we learn from our mistakes. For me and my character this has gone on for a long while and she was unhappy with the group for a long time so as far as Maro was concerned she didn't care about giving them a heads up that she was going to cause some damage. 



There was no role play on discord, it was all in game, the only thing that was planned was the date it would happen and that was down to my commitments OOC and not having time to play, making it very hard if not impossible to plan the date. 



As it was Cypress that did the "robbing" I feel like it was on them to provide the role play leading up to it I was merely a tool in that robbery and it also happened to line up with Maro wanting to cause damage. We did leave a trail for the Padrinos to investigate and potentially seek out role-play with cypress following the robbery. I could have done what you said, clear out storage and log off, but that’s just boring so i chose to make something interesting out of it. 


I lied in discord to save any information being meta gamed, ironically the rule that I have supposedly broken. 
Had a staff member contacted me about this I would obviously have told them the truth.

I still feel a little confused as to why I am banned as I've stated this was planned to happen months ago and then OOC commitments delayed it from being pulled off. We then planned a date for us to execute the plan where myself and Cypress would be free (which I believe to be a common thing when it comes to bigger RP situations).


I would also like to add that further RP was not even given the chance to happen due to me being banned shortly after the robbery, as far as I know the Padrinos have not contacted cypress either.

Thanks for your time ☺️

 
What are your plans should you be unbanned?

Talk me through your plans to continue this story from YOUR side 

 
Hello @PsianaRama!

My plan is to continue the story where it was  left off, I feel like the ball is in the Padrinos court at this stage so I'm excited to see how they decide to take it from here!

I do have some more things i would like to do but i would rather not put them here as i feel it would spoil the fun for everyone involved aswell as open doors for meta gaming.

 
Well unfortunately the "meta" of the unban appeal section is to convince us why you should be allowed to come back.

Usually, this is done by answering questions and if someone were to take this into roleplay they'd end up right where we are now.

I personally don't see this as a ball in the padrinos court as you spent 6 minutes in a total of two months providing this amazing story of robbing them blind with nothing more than a letter to go by.

Is the C Cutlass? Is it Cypress? Is it Christ almighty? Who bloody knows with nothing but empty storages and a short vague letter.

Everyone is unimpressed with what has happened and I'm not convinced you truly intend to finish what you half-heartedly started. 
If the ball IS in the Padrino families court then why would you need to come back?

What do you plan to do with your characters?

 
Hello @PsianaRama, thanks again for taking the time to look at my appeal!

Like I said, I was planing on betraying the Padrinos for a long while. A long trip came up rather suddenly for me during this time and when I returned home uni took priority over playing. For me, this never mentioned that the betrayal story arc died it was simply put on hold until I could resume it.

To give you an idea of what motivated my character to do this ill give you a few key points.
- Recently i got demoted
- There are many groups they don’t like that I’m close with which puts me in a awkward situation 
- They would never just let me leave like that.
-  They wanted to kill me off when the whole cutlass padrino thing was happening.

For me role play has always been action followed by a response, this is why I believe the ball is in the Padrinos court. I think jeep will have to answer himself on what the idea behind the signature on the letter was but he’s told me this:
“I signed it ‘the bigger c’ since i know they have issues with cutlass and like to spread rumours about us. Thought id at-least let them do some investigating, enjoy following the trail rather than just show up at our door and start shooting with minimal rp like they did last time.”

Im sad to hear that you are unimpressed with how I decided to do this. Like I said I can only take this feedback on moving forward! I will say though that if the rp would have been allowed to progress I hope you would have had the opportunity to see that my intention was never for anyone to feel that way!

As for where i imagine this story going from here i will say this: I was expecting one of the padrino seniors to either approach me or talk with cypress at some point in regards to what happened . I obviously wanted to leave the padrinos and was going to use this as a way to bargain (I’ve now been removed from the family which makes this a-bit awkward). Knowing Pablo and the perm death contracts he introduced into the padrinos, i wanted to get away from this as well. Some old members were let free after the war with coalition so i thought a similar way out could have been arranged.  Really the outcome or where the story goes is completely dependent on what the response is, im the type of player that goes with the flow of the rp I receive.

I assure you that i have every intention of finishing this story line, if the roles were reversed i would want the other party to be around so I could have some answers and seek revenge!

 
Right, so from what i am reading here its very clear to me that you have came up with a plan OOC that you are going to use IC. Now thats the issue, you cannot plan and come up with plans OOC then log in for all of 6 minutes, take items from a house and a shop and claim that its all RP. Because quite frankly its not, Jeep would also know this. You have given no chance to padrinos to follow this as you have not even been there have you. I dont believe the way you are trying to sugar coat it all like its a big roleplay story plan because it simply isnt is it. 

You have been here a decent amount of time and i am going to give you a chance here. I am going to unban you with the condition if you break any rule rule within the next 6 months you will also be placed back onto a 6 month cooldown from appealing. I hate any form of metagaming because it completely denies the other side a chance to "figure" it out in roleplay. 

Secondly, if you lie to staff again, you simply wont be back here. So, next time. Tell the truth. 

Currently you are still in padrinos F6. I suggest if your leaving you do it quietly, if you cause any more damage on the way out now ill reban you with that 6 month cooldown. 

Unbanned. 

 
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