Lucyy
Well-known member
- Location
- United Kingdom
Server: GTA RP
Character Name: Lucy Winters
Steam ID: 76561199391867391
Ban ID (just the numbers): 1234
Ban Reason: C1.2, C1.8
Why do you think you were banned: I believe I was banned under the following rules as per my last appeal (https://www.roleplay.co.uk/threads/unban-appeal-lucyy-gta-rp.425372/) which I will go into details on below: C1.2, C1.8
Why should we unban you: Firstly hello to whichever staff member takes their time to review this appeal. I'm just as disappointed about being in this section of the forums as some of you may be but I appreciate you taking the time to give this a read.
So, as per my last appeal, the rules I was banned under are C1.2 and C1.8 (to my knowledge). I apologise I cannot get the ban ID as I am discord banned so I am unable to try connecting to the server to get it. If anyone is able to obtain this for me I will edit the Ban ID section above to reflect it.
The first rule break here I'd like to talk about is C1.2 which is "Discrimination - do not express discriminatory or otherwise offensive views. This is no place for racism, religious hatred, ageism, sexism, homophobia, gender or disability discrimination." Now as it hasn't been clarified to me, I can only assume this rule break came into play when I called Cutlass members "illiterate". I would like to explicitly say this was aimed at their characters and not themselves personally as they are well know in RP to change what things are called to suit their narrative at the time. The example at the time was them calling Dutch London "Cutch London". At no point was this an attack on them personally OOC and if I had been made aware any of them took offence I would have apologise immediately. After the conversation in the Groups discord I went to sleep and woke up the next day being banned from all RPUK discords. I put 2 and 2 together and assumed it was due to my comments. Due to this assumption I did attempt to reach out to Kash in order to ask him to pass on my apologies to any of his members that took offence and read it as an OOC attack on them - my friend request was never accepted therefore I couldn't send that message as my privacy settings prevent me from sending and receiving dm's from people who I am not friends with.
I had a conversation with someone on the evening of 1st June in regards to me asking them if they could pass the message on for me. I knew this person was friends with Cutlass members at the time and they assured me they had passed the message on to Kash that I wanted to apologise hence the friend request. I have since spoken to this person and asked if they wouldn't mind me sharing screenshots of this conversation, and they have asked me to keep them private but have no issue with me sending them privately should any staff member(s) want to see them as proof that I did attempt to reach out and apologise for my comments as soon as I thought someone had taken offence. If you would like these I can send them via dm's on the forum.
The second rule that was mentioned in my first appeal by Stuart was C1.8 which is "Encouraging Rule Breaks - forcing or encouraging another member of the community to break a rule." It is my understanding that this rule break was placed on me due to a back and forth sarcastic conversation I was having with Owen (an Azteca) in the Groups discord at the time. I would like the point out that at no point was that conversation serious in any aspect. It was just 2 people having a laugh. If I remember correctly it was something along the lines of Grove buying Azteca turf for 5k which is what Cutlass wanted to end the beef we were in.
In my last appeal Stuart provided the following screenshot - https://i.gyazo.com/bdb52c57ac7f226e9008510db9881ff2.png. It is a screenshot of me telling Owen that I had passed the message on that Aztecas would be "tax free" on the new Grove turf. Again, this was never RP information, nor was it a serious conversation to begin with. If anyone read that whole conversation as serious I would have preferred it being pointed out to me that people thought it was serious and I would have made it clearer at the time that it wasn't, avoiding all of this. I have never, and would never encourage anyone to break a rule - they're there for a reason.
I would also like to touch on something else Stuart said..."Yes I do know you also went behind a decision made by leads in relation to compensation”. This isn't quite what happened. At no point did I attempt to go "behind a decision made by leads". I'm well aware what Stuart is referring to here and I'd like to clear it up. This is in regards to the mass amount of compensation requests that got denied for broken weapons found when doing the bin jobs (when it was new). I dm'd 1A3 as a friend, not as a dev, to simply ask for clarification as to why some people got accepted then everyone else got denied. I felt like if I mentioned it in the main discord I may be seen as trying to stir the pot when in all honesty I just like clarification as it wasn't clear at the time why everyone got denied after the first few got accepted. At no point did I attempt to go behind anyones back. I simply asked a question to a friend. If this was misconstrued and read in any other way then all I can do is apologise.
I have been a part of this community now for 2 years (in 4 days) and this is the first ban I've ever been given and it came with a 6 month cooldown. I have never been reported (personally) nor do I believe I have any warnings on my profile (I could be wrong but I don't think I do). To get a 6 month cooldown on my first ever ban 1.5 years into the community is disheartening to say the least. I've said since the ban that it was highly unlikely I would appeal, but I never said never as I didn't want to be one of those people that said they'd never appeal it then did it anyway.
One of your questions might be "why did you try and kick up a fuss?" which again, my intentions were never to do so. After certain things happened (which for obvious reason's I won't be going into detail about) and I felt as though as someone outside of the loop nothing was done about it as I was never spoken to about it again, I wanted to stick up for myself and I'm aware that after said incident I got a lot more defensive. Stuart even went as far as to call me toxic in my last appeal. Now toxic is a word I would never describe myself with nor would I want others to describe me as. Everyone that has ever shown me respect has had my respect. Now, I'm also a very opinionated person, and after (from my POV) nothing was done about said incident, I started to want to defend myself more since it felt like no one was going to defend me anywhere else. That incident messed me up, more than I should have allowed it to, and I let it get the better of me. Some of you may have seen that as disrespectful but it is never how I intended to come across. I am not a rude person yet maybe it came across that way when I would speak without thinking and for that I do whole heartedly apologise, I can assure you this is something I am actively working on.
In short, I hold my hands up that although my actions may have been intended one way, they were perceived another, and that's 100% on me. I hope whichever staff member(s) take the time to read this appeal can see the sincerity. I understand the trust may be gone, but believe me when I say I do not want to be in this position again. 6 months is a long time. I'm hoping my clean record up until now shows that I can be a valued member of this community. I have had a lot of time to think and reflect these past 6 months and I can completely understand why the ban was placed in the first place as well as Stuart believing I needed a break.
Lucy.
Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes