Unban Appeal - Glen OBrien - GTA RP

[Glen OBrien]

Unban Appeal for Glen OBrien 

In-game Name: Glen OBrien

Server: GTA RP

Steam ID: 76561199019367614

Ban ID: !!rpuk8958!!

Reason given for your ban: G7.1, G2.3 Player report

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.: I understand why i was banned. I Was banned from a altercation with a player in a scamming scenario. Within this situation there was minimal RP between i and the victim. As i was reported for "Bad RP". Also the rule G2.3 was added to my reason of ban, for what i can only think of was me saying "Flex your surrender muscle" as i realised the player had no idea how to get on his knees, and also as the video he posted shows he has no idea what the /e command was to do so. Therefore i tried helping him out to go further into RP to get onto his knees.

Why should we unban you ?: G 7.1 - I Do understand what i did wrong on the other hand on this occasion and i made that clear to the victim of the situation, normally i do follow Good RP and have many situations with hostages that have went very well, including my most recent hostage scenario with Joshua AKA Raymond Fowler which tbh i thought was brilliant and that is how i normally conduct myself, this time was a one off situation, to be honest i had no interest of over the top roleplay as i was thinking about the fact we have just scammed someone and most likely if we let him go it will just go to court and we will have our things stripped from us (Which has happened to me in the past). As you know many players on the server follow this mindset and i agree that it needs to change. Which i will make sure it will on my behalf.

G2.3 - This one in my opinion is abit of a weird one, im guessing this part of the ban was relating to the fact i have said "Flex your surrender muscle" i understand that this should not of been said within game but i am all for helping people out in the server and i think its abit severe to add this to the ban, the evidence that the victim has posted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRYsi4KJLIE) you can clearly see that he himself does not know how to get on his knees, all i was trying to do was help him and without mentioning anything too out of RP help him out and learn. Although now i know for future if someone doesnt know how to do it either; let them do their own thing or go down a RP route as they're not following the instructions you're setting them to do.

Additional Notes - Hello, right. I want to stress about the "Fair ban system" and that i understand the way it goes, although i have been handed a permanent ban here on something that would follow the system im guessing, the permanent ban was issued due to the fact i have 3 other bans already. I want to stress that one of these bans are completely false and that i was banned for having a supposed "Alt account" obviously i cannot prove this now but the fact that because of this false accusation i have had a perm ban handed to me for something that others would have a 7 day for. The fact that this false ban has got me another perm ban even though i am completely innocent of it and i can say that with my chest. This recent ban has no had an effect on this ban im receiving now, and believe that this punishment would of 100% of been a 7 day according to the fair ban system.

I Do try to stick to the Server Rules but little stupid mistakes like this situation catch me and i end up paying a heavy price for something as simple as this, i apologise to Slawek and once again the staff that need to read this appeal. Cheers.

Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes

 

[Sammy]

Just to quickly address this:
 

This recent ban has no had an effect on this ban im receiving now, and believe that this punishment would of 100% of been a 7 day according to the fair ban system.

This ban would have been 100% a perm, as anyone who gets unbanned from a permanent ban will fall back to a perm on any ban during the next 6 months after being unbanned. 
You have successfully appealed a ban for exploiting 1 month ago, therefore you have to appeal once again. 

Also, I do not see any ban for an "alt account". You have had 3 bans indeed tho - Player report for C2.3 , Something about economy protection and a player report for C2.2. All permanent bans. 

That now being clarified, I will leave this appeal for someone else to deal with. Good luck.

 

[Glen OBrien]

Just to quickly address this:
 

This ban would have been 100% a perm, as anyone who gets unbanned from a permanent ban will fall back to a perm on any ban during the next 6 months after being unbanned. 
You have successfully appealed a ban for exploiting 1 month ago, therefore you have to appeal once again. 

Also, I do not see any ban for an "alt account". You have had 3 bans indeed tho - Player report for C2.3 , Something about economy protection and a player report for C2.2. All permanent bans. 

That now being clarified, I will leave this appeal for someone else to deal with. Good luck.

Ok, cheers for that. And yes, im guessing the "Economy Protection" was the alt account ban. Which is false, although after being told that it will be a perm anyway my point isnt valid. Cheers mate.

 

[Stuart]

Good Morning @Glen OBrien

You mention in your main post on the appeal that you do try and stick to the rules but little mistakes catch up to you, Do you believe the reason you have been banned is a small mistake? 

You've not long come back to the community from the previous permanent ban you received and a total of 3 previous bans all being permanent bans and now this one being the forth, How can we trust you won't just come back and break more rules? Given this is over a 12 month period there is a pattern that shows. 

 

[Glen OBrien]

Cheers for the reply @Stuart

I Do believe that what ive been banned for was minor, was basically wrong place wrong time, look over the evidence and its just a very minor thing which obviously has caught up on me, this being said there is no good in what i have done. Minor or major a rule break is a rule break and ive accepted what ive done wrong and i am admitting to hold all responsibility for my actions. 

I know my ban record is whiffy, but as ive said before one of the bans is false and i was completely innocent of the accused rulebreak. Although the others do stand. Their is no excuses for the rulebreaks ive conducted but theyre honest mistakes which i regret and will improve on my RP (In this case) for the future. For the amount of time i do spend on the server i personally believe for the most part i stick to the rules very well and RP to a good standard. The odd few times slip ups happen but end of the day its a game and mistakes happen. Cheers. 

 

[Stuart]

If punishments are false we will rectify them, However one of the rule breaks you committed this time was combat logging. I'd say this is more than a minor rule break overall, Since it is preventing any roleplay and preventing others enjoyment as well as your own.

Talk us through this situation and what was going through your mind prior to you combat logging and also the reason you combat logged.  

 

[Glen OBrien]

Hello mate, I never broke the rules combat logging. The rules broke are the following:

(G2.3) Roleplay Everything - You must remain in character at all times, unless a uniformed Admin authorises you to speak out of character.

(G7.1) Hostages -Taking hostages must be roleplayed to a very high quality. Aim to make the scenario enjoyable for everyone. 

regarding your question, nothing was really going through my head at the time as I thought the RP wasn’t really that bad. More the fact that we had just scammed someone and the last thing we would want to do was have a long conversation with him about his flight business and our “boss” since in RP nothing should be said about the boss. For the 2.3 as I’ve said, I realised that the fella didn’t know how to get in his knees and if you look at his evidence he clearly didn’t know. All I was trying to do was help him within the RP to surrender. I didn’t do any of this in a malicious manner at all, only to help the RP flow instead of sat there with him standing after being instructed to get on his knees. 

 

[Stuart]

Apologies, Misread your ban reason with the combat logging part, It was G2.3. 

So upon looking over the report and how little you was bothered to give acceptable roleplay than and now to your mention that the last thing you wanted to do was have a long conversation just shows how little you did wish to RP overall. Upon the responses given in this appeal I'm not convinced that you are accepting the full nature of the ban in question. Given also that you've just come off a permanent ban not only a month ago, I will be going ahead and denying this appeal and also placing a cooldown period of 3 months. You can make a new appeal on or after September 15 2022.

Denied.