Unban Appeal - CC - GTA RP

[CC]

Server: GTA RP
Character Name: CC
Steam ID: 76561198220229227
Ban ID (just the numbers): 15029
Ban Reason: C1.7 - Chat Ban (Auto ban)
Why do you think you were banned: I was banned due to me sending the F slur into a group chat in RP. I triggered the auto ban system where such word(s) like I typed, would automatically be flagged under it being inappropriate enough to warrant the auto ban. I believe that this has been put into place on the server to stop troll and/or vulgar behavior from being seen by the rest of the server and, in general, keeping the server much less toxic and free from negativity. An example of this other than my case would be something like a troll posting such slurs on Tweedle for the masses to see, to gain a quick buzz for themselves or others that would find it funny. In essence, a class clown. This is the case for myself in my opinion.
Why should we unban you: Hello!

I want to start off by suggesting the reviewer getting a nice cup of coffee or whatever you fancy and enjoy the read.

I will begin with stating that yes, although I have done a copy and paste of my last appeal when I initially tried appealing, I will still add an appeals worth of text afterwards and will highlight in the text when it starts. I am doing this not to be lazy, but I feel as if I wrote what I believe is a very fair appeal and given the response I had, it wasn't took into account or properly responded to. Therefore, I would like it this time to be taken into account along with the additional afterwards. I'm not being ungrateful as you will read, but I do want to be as thorough as possible and leave no stone left unturned. Thanks.

START OF THE FIRST APPEAL

I was banned due to me sending the F slur into a group chat in RP. I triggered the auto ban system where such word(s) like I typed, would automatically be flagged under it being inappropriate enough to warrant the auto ban. I believe that this has been put into place on the server to stop troll and/or vulgar behavior from being seen by the rest of the server and, in general, keeping the server much less toxic and free from negativity. An example of this other than my case would be something like a troll posting such slurs on Tweedle for the masses to see, to gain a quick buzz for themselves or others that would find it funny. In essence, a class clown. This is the case for myself in my opinion.

I believe that I should be unbanned because I know what I did was wrong. I can sincerely say that I wanted and needed to step away from the server for some time because I just didn't enjoy it anymore. I was feeding into the toxicity and negativity and I knew myself that I would just carry on if I wasn't banned. So, I took the less than ideal approach by getting myself banned. The answer? The quickest way I knew how to. Knowing from previous people that have got banned before, I knew the quickest way was to get auto banned by triggering the system in place, and so, I logged onto the server as you can see by the logs and very shortly after I decided to send the message into the group chat. To add to this and also highlight what I previously mentioned about it not only being wrong but the way I went about it, I want to emphasise the genuine admittance and recognition of my actions and make it known that I know the way I went about it was wrong. To say that it was idiotic would be an understatement and there were many other avenues I could've gone down to avoid this situation. But I took the lazy approach and the easy exit.

Now, I want to extend the sincerity of my actions and apology by saying that I did not for any second mean anything hateful by what I attempted to send into the group chat. I know that because it was in house or behind closed doors that you may think I may use it as an excuse for my actions but in reality, it's not. Regardless of who it was directed towards, who could've witnessed it and most importantly who it could've offended, makes it all the more inexcusable. Again, I know what I said can upset and harm many individuals if they were to see it or if I directed it towards them but I would never do such thing in a hateful manner. I know these lazy approaches for silly reasons along with jokes can be a tell of character in the long run but for myself I strongly believe against this. I am in no way that type of person and again apologise for going about my own selfish problems in a selfish way.

I believe myself to be a good roleplayer in the community and for the many years of being here, seen hundreds and maybe even thousands of people come and go. All to which of course there were some bad eggs in that bunch, but many are still here to this day. I believe that they would advocate for me with the points I have made based on the character they know me to be. Whether they have took a disliking to me or not, in or out of character for whatever reason, to discredit the roleplayer I am (and I know all of my interactions haven't been perfect) is something I believe only a handful of people would express. This leads me to the point of my addition to the server, my contribution, my commitment and whatever else in a positive manner that you deem to be necessary in a good standing member of the community, I strongly believe I uphold and add to. Overwhelmingly positive or neutral in my existence of being a part of RPUK. I have ventured into many roleplaying story lines where some of which I have thoroughly enjoyed and some more than others. All to which I can say puts a damper on everything when I have landed myself in this position that I never thought I'd be in.

Please take what I'm about to say as an extension on the above and not as an excuse to why I should be unbanned. Thank you.

Throughout my time on the server I have (to my goldfish memory knowledge) only been banned once, maybe twice? I cannot remember for the life of me and please correct me if I am wrong. The ban I can remember which was only a 1 day ban, was within the first year of myself being on the server to which I can be transparent as always and say that I did not know the rules to the extent of which I should've. The only other ban and again was for only 1 day was still a long time ago. To be honest it's been so long so I could be talking nonsense with details but I think the first was power gaming and the second was common sense? But the second may have been only a warning? Again, I'm not sure.

Anyways, regardless of that I bring the point up because this is my first permanent ban. I haven't gone through the fair ban system of course as I haven't been a repeating offender. Neither have I received a permanent ban straight off the bat. So, with that being said, I would like to tie this point to the previous few paragraphs that highlight my character.

I believe I should be unbanned with the above being mentioned. If I was to get unbanned, I would continue where I left off before I decided to cause an issue for myself and in which, continue to enjoy and add to the community.

I would like the opportunity to one day have the dramatic fairy-tale ending of me flying away on a private jet from Los Santos Airport (for good this time) and eventually leave the server when I am done in a manner to be remembered by. I can only put my hands up in admittance for my poor decision making and believe that staff will look at this appeal and take my word as my promise. I extend my apology once again.

I believe I have said enough to explain all fronts and answer any questions you may have had. But of course with that being said, if there are any in addition I would be glad to answer.

Thanks,

-CC

END OF THE FIRST APPEAL

START OF THE ADDITIONAL TEXT FOR THE APPEAL

So, with that out of the way and in mind. Here I am... years after starting here on the server, appealing my first ever perma ban. To be honest, I never thought I'd actually be here. Yeah I've joked multiple times how one day I'll be done with the server like everyone does. They'll go out with a bang RDMing everyone but never like this. Never would I thought I would've been appealing such a petty and silly action of mine that's brought me here on the forums. I pride myself on having a fairly untainted record up until this point. But now, I live with the consequences and understand completely the punishment that was put in place. I want to state that I feel like I have much more left to give to the community. It got to the stage where I would enjoy finding 'baldies' and getting them on their feet. I found fulfillment in doing such thing and that has sparked the idea of applying for staff in the past because I feel like this would've amplified my ability to help newcomers out. Now though, although I like to think that the opportunity for staff is long gone, maybe not impossible?

(POSTING THE REST IN A REPLY BECAUSE IT DON'T FIT)
Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes

 

[CC]

Although at the time I heavily disagreed with the repercussions, I can say that frustration and naivety clouded my mind. I felt that it was unjust but truly having a breather has opened my eyes to why I was given a cool down and to be honest, i'm grateful for it. For the better part of a few months before my ban, I noticed my quality of roleplay and enjoyment of it was deteriorating. With this in my mind, I had no intention of taking notice of it and just 'coasting along' hoping that it was just a phase. To be completely honest, I didn't care. I didn't care for what could've happened, until it did. This ban has humbled me sweetly because I see some of my closest online friends continue to play day in day out without me and it's shitty that I can't be a part of it. It's a typical case of not knowing what you have until it's gone... Although somewhat cliche, it's true. I've met some great people that of which I call friends, and some not so great people that has probably been a blessing for both parties not to bump into each other for a while due to my warranted ban. All being said from someone who has always appreciated staffs approach and dedication on improving the server.

Away from me reflecting on the past and onto what put me here in the first place...

I won't deny the fact that I was stupid. That's the word that in my opinion sums up me, in this situation and asking for forgiveness. As mentioned in the first part of the appeal, my actions were to force me away from the server. At the time, my intentions were to stay away for good but quickly realised that this wasn't the case. I know I could've exhausted the many ways to go about wanting to stay away but i knew for me personally it wouldn't work. I'm sure I could've opened a ticket and requested to be temp banned but yeah. It's safe to say I was thinking like a donkey.

I wholeheartedly apologise for my actions. I know that in our day and age, being appropriate to everyone no matter your personal views is the right way to carry yourself and being mature. I for no moment have an agenda or hatred towards anyone for their beliefs, personalities or personal views. In the moment of me being banned, I was selfish and it's not excusable. What I done completely negates how us as a race should be carrying ourselves.

I want to leave any suggestion, question or query unanswered and if I haven't, offer myself to be fully open to answering any questions that staff may have. I hope that my understanding of the matter, and newly found maturity shows with the sincerity of this appeal. I would appreciate greatly the opportunity of once again being welcomed back, not forgiven because I do not expect as much, but merely given another chance.

As always, even if it don't show always, I appreciate the time taken to read over this appeal.

-CC

 

[Danoo]

Good morning @CC !

I am glad I had a cappuccino at hand for this which I did manage to finish whilst reading the entire appeal.

I can sincerely say that I wanted and needed to step away from the server for some time because I just didn't enjoy it anymore. I was feeding into the toxicity and negativity and I knew myself that I would just carry on if I wasn't banned. So, I took the less than ideal approach by getting myself banned.

I'm unsure as to why you got yourself banned in this manner to be honest, players have and still do request a ban on their account if they need time away which we could've done in your case. Instead, you have landed yourself here having to publicly explain why you've sent messages falling under the discrimination rule.

Now, I want to extend the sincerity of my actions and apology by saying that I did not for any second mean anything hateful by what I attempted to send into the group chat.

I do disagree with this statement, the entire message was a hateful sentence. I can't see for one second what else would've been meant by it.



Also, from my understanding this message wasn't posted as a way of getting you banned.
This was posted more so in a protest for another players ban alongside many other users?

 

[CC]

Hello Danoo,

Glad you finished your morning Cappuccino in the time it took to read. Although, you must read very slowly or it was in a small cup Or maybe I just read fast? Who knows...

Nonetheless, I do understand the confusion as to why I went about it in this manner. To simply put it, and this answers the second part that you quote also, if I was to open a ticket and ask for a temp ban to avoid the server, I wouldn't of told you guys to give me 6 months. I know within myself that I would've said 2 weeks, maybe a month maximum. There's no way I would've asked for longer and this is again due to where my mindset was at the time. I lost the excitement for role play on the server. The only way I knew to definitely keep me away was to do such thing. I have had breaks before in the past but this wasn't when I loved role play. Since being in Cypress, it really became apparent to me on how amazing role play is worth much more than the casual and temporary rush a gunfight, trolling or something similar can give you.

To the point of you saying you don't see another way of it being meant, I can only respond by saying this...

Yes, the message as a stand alone statement is hateful. I don't deny any recognition of that nor do I disregard how it comes across. That's final. There is no wiggle room for that. The fact that multiple other people have seen it do to me clipping it and sharing, of course, it only digs me a bigger hole. I understood this at the time and continue to understand this, thus my admittance in this appeal. In essence and again i admit and agree, it is a hateful message. I won't sit here and say "well if I didn't do it" or "well if I didn't post it" because that is all hypothetical and doesn't matter. What matters is that I have left a sour taste in what I can only imagine to be more people's mouths than I realise.

From your final point, mentioning that from your understanding it wasn't a way of getting me banned, I will say this.

My abysmal attempt to protest for, and get this, whatever I protested for. Yes, I don't even remember because that's how much it meant. Was an easy way to get a few laughs from people as I went out. Yes, childish but that's what it was. I was going to get myself banned at some point and it just came sooner than I thought. Being a people pleaser is what I was doing. After all, everyone that plays on the server, role plays a character to which, some may like and some may not like. In my opinion we're all people pleasers to some extent. The fact that I done what I did and shared it in the groups discord was myself, people pleasing. Of course in the wrong way and to put it out there, I regret it. I will save you the effort in calling me a sheep and do it myself. I contributed to the toxicity and was a sheep for it.

The fact that I've never been perma banned or been handed a ban for more than a day should indicate that I have been smart enough to not do such thing in the years I've been here. Although I have had my moments of tempting fate and pushed buttons, I have ultimately avoided tarnishing my record in that way. To now say that I would do something so foolishly WITHOUT knowing the repercussions and as you mention, believe it was only in protest, is a misjudgment Danoo in my defence. Again and I will keep repeating it and will not deny that what I said was hateful. Even if Duck didn't find it offensive or hateful. Even if anyone who knows about it didn't find it offensive or hateful. It doesn't matter.

Just to conclude, I don't want to leave any stone un-turned so with your replies you should probably keep a Cappuccino close by as I do plan to elaborate as much as I can to continue to be as transparent as I can.

Cheers

 

[PsianaRama]

Morning Mr Coma

As a first I do enjoy a good read,
Secondly,
There is a trend recently (and I suppose historically) of big bang exits.
While no you didn't mass rdm or interject any roleplay, you still knew the price for what you did.

You've been around a long time, I'm sure you've seen an unban or two for the same reason.
It's not reasonable to think you wouldn't get a permanent ban for this. It falls under discrimination.

As I'm sure you're aware we have 0 tolerance for.

Now you stated you were going to get banned at some point, why though? Why not just do the adult thing and take a break?

What led to it getting to this point and mentality of "ah I'm gonna get banned at some point anyway fuck it"

I'm just trying to get to the root cause of why you would do this knowing you only have a few stains but no irreversible damage on your record

 

[CC]

Afternoon Gee,

I do agree, you flatter me!

Now yes, poetry out of the way, the big bang exits are somewhat a trend on how people leave the server and although mine was not as impactful in one way, it was much more impactful in another. I know this and the accountability I take is all of it.

Although I don't really use the forums all too much, I have, much like the rest of us, been nosey and kept an eye on certain things. You'd be right in assuming that I've read a few unban appeals for the same reason as mine here today and those who have been given a second, third, fourth and so on chances have mostly never recovered from their ways. Now, it's easy for me to sit here and play on the fact that this is my first permanent ban and "I won't follow suit and be a re offender going forward", but from your position you can only go on good faith and the best judgement possible from what you have to hand. Previous history, staff notes, whatever else you factor in and ultimately, this appeal. I do hope that from the staff teams perspective I have warranted a bit of good faith and be expected as someone who won't be a re offender.

With the 'fuck it' mentality I wanted to get banned before I built up a record of no return. The 1 day, 2 day, week etc etc and making the process a lot longer than what it needed to be. Now, I didn't have in mind a way to get banned nor i didn't expect it to be the way I did. I didn't think, oh, people have been unbanned for that before so i'll do the same. I get banned which is my first goal, getting away from the server, then I get unbanned eventually which was my second goal. When I wanted to return then I could. This wasn't the case. I was completely clocked out of the server. I was set on not returning. I'll be honest, with the free time I had, the server wasn't even my first go to game I would jump on and over the months leading up to my ban, my playtime dramatically decreased. Just to touch on taking a break, as mentioned in my previous responses I knew this wouldn't help. I used the server as a boredom filler. When i was finished with whatever else, I would hop on and troll or fuck around to get a buzz and then hop off. With the option of it being there I wouldn't of avoided it unless I was banned. Again, i knew i could've opened a ticket and got a temp ban but also again, I would've only asked for like a week or two.

The bottom line and root cause was simply just not enjoying the server anymore. The way things were going, the toxicity (even though I added to it) among other things. It was simply just being done. I didn't do it to gain more of a record. I didn't do it to out myself as someone who discriminates against others. I didn't do it to fit in with what was going on in groups at the time, just the clip being posted in there for a few laughs and to feed the toxicity. There is nothing else to it. I don't sit here and expect to be unbanned, I expect the outcome that you and others decide to be the correct one. I do not condone any action I done as a correct, right or mature one. Rather a spiteful, wrong and immature one.

I hope I've answered any question marks.

Thanks

 

[Danoo]

Good morning @CC !

I was set on not returning.

Given this, why are you now having such a change in mindset and trying to return?

Essentially from this, what we've gathered is that you got yourself banned, trying to make people laugh as you protested for another member although you can't fully remember what it was even for.
If you're essentially not able to take a break from the server, speak to staff to request a ban if absolutely necessary, how could we ever trust that you won't just have an outburst like this again in the future if you're becoming bored of the server again?

 

[Danoo]

Hello,

Please respond soon else this appeal may be timed out.

 

[CC]

Hello and good morning again Danoo! I hope all is well,

A change in mindset and wanting to return comes from recollection of my actions and feeling as if I have spent the right amount of time away to mature and collect myself. I can only admit and say that eventually, like everyone, I will want to take a break or leave for good and whenever that time comes, I know that I will go about it in the correct manner. If I want to take a break I will. If, and it's a big if, I feel as if I need a temp ban to achieve that then I will open a ticket and go about it the correct way as I have with almost everything else in my time on the server. This experience has taught me an important lesson that something so quick can have a lasting effect.

I got myself banned because I didn't want an excuse for myself to hop on to the server. The idiotic actions I took to achieve that was very rash and selfish of me.

I can only assure you that I will go about things in the correct way if given another chance.

I'm too caught up with work to dedicate anywhere near as much time as I did before and quite frankly, being away from the toxicity has been refreshing. To add to that as a heads up, if I don't reply same day it'll be within a day or two so bare with me please.

I appreciate the time taken by yourself and Gee responding to this appeal

 

[Danoo]

Thanks for the response @CC ,

IF you were lucky enough to receive an unban, what exactly is it you've got planned for RPUK following this ban?

Have you any roleplay stories lined up?
Are you returning specifically to play with old friends?
Are you able to provide quality roleplay on this server following what's happened previously and the mindset?

 

[CC]

Hi Danoo,

Given the chance to play on the server again, I would ideally like to carry on where I left off. With my main character being in Cypress, continuing the high level role play that I enjoyed thoroughly. There are quite a few new faces there and I know how Jeep likes to do things. Going back to play with old friends there is something that will help integrate myself back into the server and I can rely on people that are trustworthy in that regard. In my (somewhat bias opinion) there isn’t a better place to go back to.

Then also my other character that was in the police. Granted it wasn’t for too long but going through the process of being re accepted (considering the time away) is something I look forward to. I did have plans to spend more time on that character because I wanted a different type of role play to keep things fresh with the rotation between the two characters of mine.

Personally I believe that my time on the server has overall been kept to a high standard of role play and have no plans to change this. Yes I can admit at times the quality would’ve dropped but who’s hasn’t. Late nights or quiet times with your closest mates naturally drop the standard of role play but in the grand scheme of things I have actually enjoyed keeping a higher standard.

Cheers

 

[Drex]

Hello @CC

To go get yourself intentionally auto banned, only to come to this section of the forums, must be one of the biggest waste of anyone's time.
Not only did you use discriminatory language in the message to 'Ducky', you recorded yourself and posted it in the Groups-Discord, as if you just did something awesome.

Realistically, why are we spending this amount of time and effort, on discussing your ban, when you got yourself here in the first place; Literally on purpose - When it would be so much easier to simply say no.

I for one, am not convinced that you have changed; Zycho was banned, you threw a tantrum, had yourself banned and then bragged about it; It's frankly a mindset not fit for an online community.