Un-ban Appeal - the real loaf bloke - 13/08/18 (unbanned)

[the real loaf bloke]

In-game Name
[TD] Dan

Steam ID
76561198069207741

The date of your ban.
12/08/18

Member of the team that banned you.
Valen Bell

Reason given for your ban.
(Forum Report (2.1, 2.2))

The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
I believe I was banned for 2 cases of VDM and RDM, on account of Dain and banned by Valen Bell

Why should we unban you ?
I am going to construct my entire unban appeal by breaking down each point of my ban (according to the forum post), out of respect for Valen Bell. All points relating to my evidence can be found at https://youtu.be/FaUvq633Jas - my reasons for being banned begin around 1:50

Anyway onto this shitshow of roleplay. Lets kick it off, first up lets start with the Hatchy driver "Dan" ... vehicle on vehicle roleplay is not possible due to the Arma VOIP it does not work well enough,
As a new player, I was not aware of this. If I am to be punished for it, even if I am not unbanned, on behalf of all new players I requested this is stated in the rules.
either way you seem to have been in the wrong channel
As shown, in my video, this is incorrect. I clearly tried to roleplay in direct.
and even if you managed to speak in direct properly and it was heard that so-called "initiating" of roleplay towards him was absolutely garbage and the kind of "roleplay" I would expect on other servers were you just shot eachother after saying one word, nothing that was high quality in any regard
I never fired a single shot, nor did I say one word. Multiple sentences were spoken, starting with a friendly greeting and moving to threats, as if to roleplay as a gang member. If he had stepped out we would have continued roleplay and eventually robbed him. Our original intent was not to kill Dain, or at least mine was not.
and your friend Atek should have noticed how shit it was as well and he cannot pass the blame off to you for him shooting as it is his own responsibility to ensure there was actual quality roleplay before he even thinks about pulling the trigger.
I'm sorry, I would speak on behalf of Atek but according to the unban process it states I cannot as this is a request for my unban.
Alongside all that I notice you ram into Dain twice, the first time you had no reason to drive forward into him
I did not drive forward into him, it is clear I am creating a roadblock and as I am creating it he drives into me, it shows in the video I am actually reversing away from him at the time
then at the second time (which causes a flip) you are quite clearly purposefully driving as close to him as you can and it looks a hell of a like VDM, if it was not for the first time you did it I could pass it off as an accident but not twice like this.
It is also visible that at least from my camera angle during the second incident, I am trying to keep pressure to stop him driving away on the road. He turns into me and it is even visible that I am trying to turn the same way too, to avoid a collision
So alongside being banned for RDM as you provide the shit role and clearly being involved and being the main cause of it,
The clear definition of RDM in the rules is "Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play". I did not fire, so I am not guilty of RDM, but of course I was party to it as I "initiated"
I cannot trust you whatsoever that you won't cause far more issues... you will also be hit with VDM.
Please see my earlier points on the 2 collisions.

No matter what, nothing but respect for Valen Bell for doing his job properly and Dain clearly is an upstanding member of RPUK. RPUK is all I play, but if I am banned and this unban request achieves nothing I will walk away with no hard feelings, and possibly try to prove myself later on.
If I am unbanned, I will be especially grateful, as yes, RPUK is all I play whenever I am on my PC.

Regards,
Dan

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[Jefke V]

lets start with you quoting the rules you broke, and explain in your own words. 
 

 

[the real loaf bloke]

lets start with you quoting the rules you broke, and explain in your own words. 
 

The rules I was banned for violating are:

[SIZE=medium](2.1) Vehicle Deathmatch (also known as VDM) - Using any vehicle as a weapon (e.g running people over, causing explosions including while sling loading, ramming, etc), will result in you receiving a ban. Three vehicles are excluded from this, MRAPS (Ifrits, Hunters and Striders) can ram other MRAPS in order to disable them, yet not to kill the passengers. This is allowed as these vehicles are the only vehicles ingame that can withstand being rammed. Please note that you need to initiate roleplay before attempting to ram an MRAP. (Please note - MRAPS don't need to be initiated on in the redzone) This is to prevent random ramming on site. (Three minutes of chasing also constitutes initiation of MRAP and MRAP ramming).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium](2.2) Random Deathmatch (also known as RDM) - Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order. Count downs are not considered quality roleplay, please at least attempt to create an interesting roleplay story before considering shooting.) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]I was banned for violating rule 2.1, i.e. (ramming,)  in causing a deliberate collision between the Hatchback (Sport) I was driving at the time and the HEMTT Box that Dain was driving, on 2 occasions. I was also banned for violation rule 2.2, i.e. Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play, in firing on the HEMTT Box that Dain was driving. However, it is clear from my evidence that I did not deliberately cause the collision I was banned for (eg ramming, the subsection of rule 2.1 I was banned for) and it was assumed I was party to firing at Dain's vehicle (eg Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play) which I did not do, in fact I have only ever shot at another player once and that was in defence of a redzone. I did not fire a single shot at Dain or his vehicle, as is visible in my evidence.[/SIZE]

 

[the real loaf bloke]

It has occured to me there was an element of lack of remorse in my last 2 posts (including OP) in this thread, and I would like to continue. Despite me genuinely not intending to cause any collision, not firing, and not knowing I could not be heard in what was genuinely my first ever attempt at starting a theft-like roleplay situation that I rushed as he drove away (which I maintain is fair under the circumstances of him driving away), I will continue this more accurate reply to Jefke V's request of; 

explain in your own words

with, in the name of ease for the admins, I will also explain what I will do to avoid such a situation:

As any reference on my behalf will confirm, that was, yes, my first ever criminal interaction against another player I went into with the intention of starting, and I had thought my clanmates were watching over me and when they told me to start roleplaying I thought they knew the circumstances, as is quite clear in the video. Also, any reference (I'm not sure it's appropriate to mention names, but if anyone wishes I was taken under the wing of very experienced non-violent group before [TD], who would gladly affirm I always try and stick to the rules (sometimes, to too much of a degree and enough to cause annoyance!)) But, considering the awful trouble this has caused for the staff team, I wish for anyone reading this to know that in the near future I will simply try to avoid such situations, and I will continue to familiarise myself with each rule - and continue to learn the supposed unwritten rules. Again, I was banned for violating rule 2.1 and 2.2, and, whether or not you consider that to be a fair ban for those rules, I will always air on the side of caution as clearly such incidents are taken very seriously. Thank you for reading what I see is a very wordy ban appeal, especially to the staff members.

Regards, 

Dan

------------------------------ SEPERATE POST WHICH I DID NOT REALISE WOULD MERGE ------------------------------

I would also like to clarify, that in accordance with 



 as was helpfully linked on my clanmate's threads, I will also air on the side of caution with roleplay, as being a new player and even newer to such situations and having been affirmed to say what I said by my clan leader, I had thought what I had said was sufficient. Obviously, I have learned much (much hardly does it justice!) about roleplay from this incident, and, if as the admins said, my roleplay was not sufficient, I will certainly try my absolute best to use higher quality roleplay. I hope this incident and this post satisifies that from now on my roleplay will be to a higher standard, as I certainly have learned my lesson in that regard, amongst others (including the fact I cannot be heard across vehicles and what I did is apparently considered VDM). Sorry for the 2 posts in quick succession.

Regards,

Dan

 

[James_W12345]

@the real loaf bloke while we appreciate the effort you have gone to, you have none the less posted two seperate posts, bumping your topic.

Care to explain to us why you did this? you clearly know how to edit a topic as you have proven above.

 

[the real loaf bloke]

@the real loaf bloke while we appreciate the effort you have gone to, you have none the less posted two seperate posts, bumping your topic.

Care to explain to us why you did this? you clearly know how to edit a topic as you have proven above.

I thought bumping was the act of simply replying to a post just for the purposefully putting it higher up the list, is misinterpreted the rule and thought me replying to an admin's request sufficed a fair reason for another post, to make it clear I was replying to that post. I appreciate your leniency! 

Apologies, 

Dan

 

[James_W12345]

You do seem to regret what you did and hopefully you have learned what is not acceptable. We would like to know now that you know what is high quality roleplay.

We clearly expect a greater degree of roleplay before someone is shot at, or even robbed.

Can you give us a good example of how you would handle the following situation (imagine you are writing a script or telling us how you would do everything, step by step):

someone is at the drug dealer with a truck, presumably selling drugs and therefore has a large sum of money on them, you want that money, how would you go about robbing the person.

 

[the real loaf bloke]

You do seem to regret what you did and hopefully you have learned what is not acceptable. We would like to know now that you know what is high quality roleplay.

We clearly expect a greater degree of roleplay before someone is shot at, or even robbed.

Can you give us a good example of how you would handle the following situation (imagine you are writing a script or telling us how you would do everything, step by step):

someone is at the drug dealer with a truck, presumably selling drugs and therefore has a large sum of money on them, you want that money, how would you go about robbing the person.

Absolutely! I will assume some example circumstances that they are using a HEMTT Box - text in * is what I'd presume they'd say 

"hello mate, that's a lovely truck you've got" 

*thank you*

"yeah. I don't suppose you happen to know where to get a truck like this do you? Only I've lost my map" 

*I got mine in Kavala*

"that's quite a while away to walk... It would much easier if I could get one a bit closer?" 

*oh, sorry I don't know*

"right. Well. Seeing as yours is so lovely, could I borrow yours?" 

*uhh... No*

"Ill ask again, then" (pull out gun) "can I borrow your truck? And a fee for wasting my damn time. Put your hands behind your head."

I would then rob them and threaten them until they gave me key chain access to the truck. 

I hope that suffices. 

Regards, 

Dan

 

[James_W12345]

Sounds like you can come up with some interesting roleplay. Lets hope we see you expand on similar imaginative scenarios in the future.

Please re-read the rules in full before joining the server, as another rule break in the future would make it far more difficult your you in your unban.

Unbanned