Un-ban Appeal - Pabl0 - 06/12/17 (Timed Out)

[Pabl0]

In-game Name
Pablo

Steam ID
76561198046639617

The date of your ban.
12/08/16

Member of the team that banned you.
idk

Reason given for your ban.
Apparent poor RP

The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
killed the geezer at the atm had no idea he only spawned in the last 5 minutes, was with two teammates who can attest he was not complying and I killed him and took his shit. Not poor RP IMO.

Why should we unban you ?
Over a year since the ban, was also a pretty harsh ban. I mean how on earth am I supposed to know he had only just spawned in? he was geared at an atm for all i know he couldve been there for hours lmfao. Also check his report he said we saw him spawn in, this is utter fabrication as you can see from his "evidence" where it only shows us killing him. That altercation lasted a long time and I arent even the one asking him to put his gun away and rctic can attest to this also.

Please confirm this unban request is for you.
Yes

I have read and understand the unban appeal process
Yes

Please confirm you understand there is no timeframe for your appeal.
Yes

Before you submit this form please confirm you have fully read the rules click here
Yes

 

[TikTak]

So you MSG'ed me that you wanted a reply but you clearly haven't understood the unban appeal process even tho i told you to go and read it you MSG me again asking for me to reply. You can wait another 3 days before we look at this.

 

[Robbie]

So have you actually read the unban appeal rules? or just put 0 effort in and just think you can blag through your appeal? 

 

[Pabl0]

Ive read them now. I understand that I was banned for poor RP, I agree 100%. However it was a strange situation as I had no clue that the player had only spawned in recently and in the video he provided in the report you can see there is another player engaging with him, which isnt me. I didnt say much during the engagement however I was the one to apply the killing blow which is how he got my name. I understand that it was poor RP/RDM and it was over a year ago now and I feel I am a changed player and can offer a good RP experience within the community. I just want to get back to playing and avoid a situation akin to this one as much as possible. 

Pabl0

 

[Aiden]

I tried contacting him through Teamspeak and even ingame, but he refused to cooperate and settle this terrible RP from there part especially Peter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPLdfR8VcZk

So here's the issue, he would have spawned within about 30 seconds of you killing him as the side info was popping up still. Why if that sort of situation had occurred and he had complied by putting his firearm away and you had shot him anyway would you not try to speak with him over Teamspeak? Surely that could have prevented this ban in the first place?

 

[Pabl0]

As I have explained before, there was no way of me or my accomplices knowing that he had only just spawned in as we saw him at the atm and were none the wiser. The video evidence he provided does not give you the full scope of the encounter, only the tail end of it where you see him comply as he is killed at the same time. The problem that arises with this is that you do not see the stage of the encounter where he is not complying after asking multiple times to put his gun away. This means a bias is created with the video in which it looks like terrible RP and RDM. 

To answer your question, he contacted me once in game asking to join TS and at the time I felt frustrated because he solely wanted my head on the chopping block where you can clearly see another person in the video provided who actually shot first. I just landed the killing blow (which is how he got my name for the report).

In future if a situation akin to this one were to arise, I would for sure deal with it as swiftly as possible over any medium of comms. However that is very unlikely as I believe that this particular instance was an anomaly and is very unlikely to happen again.

Pabl0

 

[LONG BEARD]

You start off by saying 'apparently poor rp', 'Not poor RP IMO' and  'was also a pretty harsh ban'. 

Then you switch tact to 'poor RP, I agree 100%. However it was a strange situation'.  I fail to see how this was a strange situation.

The issue isn't that he was a fresh spawn, though if you 'had' seen him spawn in, that would have indeed been shitty. The issue is that you killed this guy as he was complying with him saying 'ill put it away'. There's two of you pointing guns in his face, he was no threat to you, and even if, as you've claimed you'd already asked him several times, he was still trying to RP with you, and there was still ample opportunity to RP with him.  You chose to blow his brains out. 

Saying things like 'This means a bias is created with the video in which it looks like terrible RP', after agreeing it was poor RP 100%, it seems to me that you still think what you did was in some way acceptable and you're not really convincing us that you really are a 'changed player'.

 

[Pabl0]

Upon reading the rules which you can see I did after making this appeal I do regress my original opinion that the RP wasnt poor and I can clearly see this engagement wasn't a good one in terms of the RP. 

As I have mentioned before i have two teammates who can attest that the person killed was not complying at all which the video very cleverly does not show. However I understand there was more opportunity to engage in RP and overall it was indeed poor. However again I make the point that the person who initiated the shooting was not me but my friend who spoke in the evidence. 

Now the case can me made that if not for my friend initiating the shooting I would've happily engaged in some nice RP, however as this did not happen we will never know. 

Me saying that there is a bias created in the video is simply stating facts, you can clearly see that this is the tail end of the altercation and there are key details left out here. 

You must have missed the last paragraph I wrote if you believe I am not a changed player as what I wrote completely contradicts your entire motive there. 

 

[JohnJoeegan]

The main issue I have with this appeal is you stating

you can clearly see that this is the tail end of the altercation and there are key details left out here. 

I had a look through some old server footage to see how many of these "Key Details" you talk about  could of been missed from the video.  I counted how long it takes for the text what is presented in the bottom right of the the video that got you banned to appear. From when you select the "Spawn" button to when the "roleplay.co.uk"  text appears is and there is no more than 7 seconds and around 4-5 of those seconds is the sky-view zoom down segment from the spawn in screen. So you have around two - three seconds that is missed of that video.

I honestly can not begin to imagine what these key details where, do you even remember yourself?

 

[Aiden]

@Pabl0 Please respond soon or your appeal will time out.

 

[Madmatt150]

Denied, Timed out