Un-ban Appeal - Naylor - 06/03/18 (Unbanned 11/03/18)

[Naylor The Gamer]

In-game Name
Cpt. Naylorrr

Steam ID
76561198356162333

The date of your ban.
06/03/18

Member of the team that banned you.
Xkan

Reason given for your ban.
(3.7) Baiting

The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
I have been banned for (3.7) Baiting - Baiting for the sake of a gunfight is not roleplay. Punishment is a ban. Examples: Flying over someone with a chopper waiting for warning shots to instantly shoot them back, robbing a service station with the intent of a gunfight, etc. - In my own words: Within the situation that I was in, Pupss had ran in with a pistol on his own and made an initiation on multiple NCA officers for the sake of not surrendering for the police to just engage upon him for it to then lead to a gunfight with the police and I was one of the gang members that engaged upon the police at the time of when Pupss was shot with non-lethal rubbers.

Why should we unban you ?
Ok... so I have been a member of this community for over a year and a bit and I have had my hiccups whilst being a part of RPUK and to be honest, we all make hiccups and nobody's perfect because that's what makes us human. Unfortunately this is my 2nd ban for (3.7) Baiting and I will happily hold my hands up and say that I really mucked up when I committed my first offence revolved around that rule. Now for the reason I have been banned in this case is because I was one of the names shown in the evidence that was provided by the person who placed a report on Pupss. During the time of when Pupss was around the Kavala garage, I wasn't even aware of what he was going to do at the time as my Teamspeak sound was muted completely. I landed my MH-9 Hummingbird close to the peach trees and I was roleplaying with someone around that area. Once I finished up with my RP with who I was talking to, I then unmuted my TS Sound and I was told that I was going to be needed because Pupss was in trouble in regards to his situation with the police at kavala garage. Even during the time of when I unmuted my TS sound, Pupss only hot-mic'd his initiation on the police. That was when I decided to run towards the tree line near the construction building and as soon as Pupss said 'I've been tased, shoot the police!'' I then began to engage upon the NCA officers. Now I'll be honest with you, if I knew that the situation was going to look anything close to baiting, I wouldn't of took part in it since I learned my lesson from my last offence. I can respect the fact that the evidence supplied on the report shows someone set up inside the construction building which does look very bad on our gangs part but I can't speak for those people who were possibly set up to assist Pupss. This situation was just unfortunate because my name cropped up that I had shot the police. I apologised to the officers who I did shoot in the situation during our chat on Teamspeak because from the video shown, it looked very quick but bare in mind I was only going off of what I was being told from who was at Kavala garage. As soon as I realised I was banned today, I quickly went to seek staff support because I was a little surprised to receiving a ban because Xkan presumed I was the person set up inside the construction building. I spoke to Drew and Alfred about the reasons for my ban and I then explained to them my perspective during the situation and they simply advised to me to bring that information up on my appeal. I well and truly respect Xkan's decision on providing me with a ban but I really do hope I can redeem myself somehow from this. I really would not like to say goodbye to Roleplay UK because I have been quite the constant player during my time here and I've loved every minute of it. Do I think I could do better in the future? Your damn right. I know I can do a whole lot better because I know that I have had some great roleplay experiences with many members within the community. Would I say I've learnt from this? Without a shadow of a doubt! Every mistake I make, I learn from it and try my best not to make that same mistake again. I've said this before and I'll say it again.. I am not somebody who is out to break Roleplay UK's rules. I am here for one reason and that is roleplay.. And also having fun I guess. I really hope that the Staff team who review this appeal understand that I am known better for my roleplay more than the negatives.

Thanks to the staff team that take the time out of their day on reviewing my appeal.

Naylor

Please confirm this unban request is for you.
Yes

I have read and understand the unban appeal process
Yes

Please confirm you understand there is no timeframe for your appeal.
Yes

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Yes

 

[LONG BEARD]

Hello Jordan.

Usually when deciding on whether to unban someone, we first take a look at their record to see if they're a clean player. In your case, you have managed to notch up 3 warnings and 3 bans.  You say you learn from each mistake, but it appears you are struggling with that and I wonder how many more mistakes you need to learn from should you get unbanned?

Whilst this unban appeal relates to the baiting incident, we must look at the bigger picture here.  Since leaving the police, you, and your gang have managed to get into multiple scrapes, generated a lot of anger, and ultimately fallen foul of the rules a number of times, narrowly escaping bans due to liaison room resolutions.  Having observed your antics in admin cam and within videos, of how you speak to people, albeit in RP, I have to say, I'm not surprised. 

Whilst you do seem at home playing the aggressive bad ass, and the consensus is that it's acceptable within RP,  I can't help feeling you go a little too far, and this is most likely the root of the anger and frustration some community members feel when they encounter you. It's very hard to RP with someone who's ultimately just throwing abuse and insults at them. Is this something you agree with, or do you think I'm talking gibberish?

Lastly, the complaints that I've personally received have come from a wide range of people, not just the same few, so this idea of a conspiracy to get you banned is really quite hard to take seriously. There has to be more to it than that and I feel you need to take some responsibility for it.

 

[Naylor The Gamer]

Hiya Beard.

Yeah I've got to agree with you and meet you halfway with what you've said in regards to the style of RP when it comes to playing as a rebel and I have come across as if i'm taking it too far. After having a discussion with a few other members of the gang, I believe that I should of toned it down. Why I didn't in the first place, I do not know. Maybe in my mind I couldn't understand why a lot of the folk took it to heart. I understand that you have to take into account my past offences when it comes down to unban appeals whether the ban was related to the offence that caused the ban. I don't really know where this has all come from because I  know I can be a very good roleplayer but at the moment, all of the situations have mainly involved the police and to be quite honest with you, I can see why most of the police have felt it hard roleplaying with me or the gang itself from the experiences they've had.

As for my 1st server ban related to breaching NLR, I was absolutely clueless during that time and I was an idiot for not educating myself around the NLR rule considering I was pretty new during that time. Now for the 1st offence regarding baiting... As I have said I will completely hold my hands up and say I have only myself to blame with getting myself banned with that situation. When I spoke to Robbie when he was about to put the ban on me, I knew exactly where I went wrong as soon as it was all addressed to me. With this situation, I was only going off of what was getting hot mic'd to me from Pupss.. I apologised straight away to both Niall and Benjamin for shooting them since they were there during the liaison. I apologised because after I saw the video from what was actually going off down at Kavala garage with Pupss and the police and realising how mediocre the situation was as a whole, I felt guilty for actually shooting them.

 

[LONG BEARD]

What I will say, for the public record since I've mentioned your gang as a whole, is that I don't believe they are fully responsible for the bad feeling that's been generated. I have seen a few members of your gang attempt to some quality RP only to be shut down. I'll be looking into this in more detail.

With that out the way, we'll continue with your appeal.

Now that you've accepted responsibility for your actions, should you be unbanned, how will you adjust your approach, and ultimately avoid being banned again in the near future?

 

[Naylor The Gamer]

Yeah I agree with you on the fact that TSP members have tried to display some good RP. TSP isn't meant to be a gang that is fixated on gun fights at all, especially considering that we have people within the gang that are mainly best known for their roleplay.

Now to answer your question.. I think the best way I can move forward from this if I was to be unbanned is change my character as a rebel for a start. Tone down this ''aggressive badass''  type of character where all i'm doing is hurling abuse at the police (please bare in mind that the abuse was not to be taken personal but I can see how its left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths) and mix it up a bit on how I engage within rebel roleplay by making it a pleasant experience on both sides. There's also times where I don't have to roleplay as a rebel at all and just roleplay as something else that doesn't encourage hostilities. Maybe focus towards my roleplay within the NHS from time to time and possibly work up the ranks because I know I've done a good job within medic rp and it can be a more calming activity from just doing your average criminal roleplay.

 

[LONG BEARD]

Please quote the rule you broke, and in detail, explain in your own word why it's an important rule.

 

[Naylor The Gamer]

The rule I broke: (3.7) Baiting - Baiting for the sake of a gunfight is not roleplay. Punishment is a ban. Examples: Flying over someone with a chopper waiting for warning shots to instantly shoot them back, robbing a service station with the intent of a gunfight, etc.

The reason why the 3.7 baiting rule is an important rule to have set in place is so it keeps the intentions of always wanting a gunfight off of the servers and to fixate more on the high quality roleplay that should be displayed within on the servers and if you are just setting a mediocre scene for it to just end into a gunfight seconds later, you are then breaching that rule.

 

[Azamai]

This time you will get unbanned.
However remember in the future, a friend of yours doing something wrong and you joining in, is not a valid excuse to get out of a ban. If your mate RDMs a person, you join in because he tells you he initiated. You will get banned for that. In the future remember that, make sure the situation you get into is done correctly, that is not something you should ever leave to someone else, as it ends up in problems like this.
 

We do however take into account your previous bans as Long Beard has mentioned, so show us that you can do better, and will strive to make sure the people you play with is kept up to standard.