Un-ban Appeal - Efraim Diveroli - 12/13/2016

[Efraim Diveroli]

In-game Name
Efraim Diveroli

Steam ID
76561198248306244

The date of your ban.
12/13/2016

Member of the team that banned you.
Vaffla

Reason given for your ban.
Poor attitude towards support members

The Server you initially were banned on.
Teamspeak

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
First of all there was an incident where DSGT Kieran Rhead pulled me out of a moving car while moving all because i reversed into the back of them and they didn't even rp with me just pulled me out the car, i got back in then drove half way down the road and they pulled me out killed me then crushed my car. I went into ts and spoke with Kieran and he didn't agree that him pulling me out of a car moving at high speeds was a police rule break because i rammed into the back of him while reversing and that was a good enough reason for him to break one of the police rules. He then said i was a "cocky cunt" and constantly threw abuse at me saying every swear word known to man kind and saying all this shit to me and calling me a cunt and a stupid prick. But it wasn't until Vaffla joined our channel because he was involved in the incident in game that Kieran shut up and stopped throwing abuse at me and calmed down all because his higher up joined the ts.

Why should we unban you ?
Kieran was constantly swearing at me calling me a cunt and i responded by updating him with the rules saying that a cop cannot pull a person out of a moving car because i reversed into the back of them. Kieran just swore at me and Vaffla joined and listened to us and then while i was mid arguing with Kieran all because he pulled me out of a car i got banned for poor attitude towards support members. When the person suppose to be explaining the situation to me (Kieran Rhead) is constantly calling me a stupid prick and a cocky cunt then how can i even resolve the situation? It wasn't until Vaffla joined that he stopped the abuse and just argued with me saying that i VDM'ed his officer when i drove off the second time after he pulled me out. But i was already moving off speeding off and Vaffla ran in front of the car and got run over and Kieran was accusing me of VDM because of that and then mid sentence while explaining that's not vdm because he ran into me and kieran was in the wrong for pulling me out i got banned from ts.

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[Efraim Diveroli]

Id also like to add that i do understand that reversing into the back of his car is VDM but his attitude of jumping out of his car pulling me out and not even RP'ing and then pulled me out again when i drove off and killed me as a result. And just because i reversed into him and VDM'ed him doesn't give Kieran the ability to call me a cocky cunt  and a stupid prick.

 

[Drew]

Do not bump your appeal. This will be reviewed in due course however I would like to call in @Vafflafor his input.

 

[Kieran787]

Hello,

I am commenting on this as there are some accusations thrown against me, which are totally untrue. 

So after the incident, you messaged me on team speak, you were asking me why, I was trying to explain, and you were having none of it. So I then came to the room and started to speak to you. When we were in the room, you were screaming down your microphone, unjustifiably, and then you were explaining that what I did to you was wrong. I then went to explain that what you did in-game was unacceptable and against server rules and me pulling you out the first time was to prevent you from doing it to other people. You then started to have a 'cocky' attitude and you were acting like you knew everything. Not at one point did I call you a 'cocky cunt' I said, stop having a 'cocky attitude' with me otherwise I was just going to leave the channel. Also, I like the fact that you have also made up the part where I called you a 'stupid prick', which is again, totally untrue. 

Anyway, after you where not listening to what I was saying, I then left the room and went to get Vaffla, who then tried to explain to you what you had done wrong as you where not going to listen to me. You say as well, that:

Kieran shut up and stopped throwing abuse at me and calmed down all because his higher up joined the ts.

When Vaffla joined the channel, I said something at the start basically to tell Vaffla why I joined the channel and then he continued to explain what I was saying to you but you didn't listen to what I was saying. At no point, did Vaffla tell me to stop throwing abuse at you and calm down in the whole conversation, as you stated. 

 

[Vaffla]

The incident in question was in the Kavala GZ on Server 1 at approximately 18:15. I'll quickly describe the incident for context.

As myself and @INS Kieran Rheadwere parked, a vehicle stopped near and proceeded to ram into the side of our own car in reverse, pull forward and then reverse to hit us again. This happened repeatedly (5+ times) leading me to the assumption he was trolling about and VDMing since it was clearly intentional and the cars hit every time without any attempt to turn the vehicle. Due to this, we both hopped out the vehicle and decided to pull him from the vehicle as quickly as we could so we could restrain and talk to him about it. Kieran pulled him out the first time, but he hopped back into his vehicle as soon as he stood up and I pulled him out a second time. In both instances, we pulled him out the vehicle when it was either stationary or at no more than 2-3km/h, and a delay occurred before he was actually pulled out of the vehicle, leading to him unfortunately being killed the second time. I don't have a video of the incident sadly or a report would have been produced following this. While you did run me over, this can also be down to desync on the server and latency issues thus treated as an accident, it was the original issue with the vehicles hitting which we refer to as VDM.

A short time later I was called to Teamspeak as Kieran informed me he was asking for an explanation for breaking police rules. I entered the room, explained as I have above and this seemed to have annoyed him. In return we received a barrage of sarcastic comments, such as that we've developed magical powers to drag him out the car from down the road and we must have the worlds worst reaction times etc. I felt his remarks were unhelpful, rude and not constructive to the situation, and myself and Kieran had done what is required to explain the situation to him.

Prior to joining the room I am unaware of the conversation so I cannot comment on that but invited Kieran to post his side of things. That said, a comment I do disagree with is below.

Kieran just swore at me and Vaffla joined and listened to us and then while i was mid arguing with Kieran all because he pulled me out of a car

Kieran come to my room to grab me, and I joined the "North East" public room before he did, and so I did not walk into any arguments. For the first few seconds it was completely silent, and I invited Kieran to just give me a quick brief of what the issue of concern was that they would like me to explain. Throughout it he was calm and professional and I had no issue with his conduct.

I hope that clarifies @Drew, if you have any further questions just let me know.

 

[Khandamir]

Denied, lying to get other people into trouble and hoping we will overlook your own rulebreaks: Not appreciated.

Make a new appeal in 5 days when you are ready to tell the full truth.