Un-ban Appeal - Cool - 12/06/18 (Unbanned)

[Cool]

In-game Name
C O O L

Steam ID
76561198024019524

The date of your ban.
12/06/18

Member of the team that banned you.
Tiktak

Reason given for your ban.
Forum report

The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
I did not share information that I believed was out of roleplay information. Turns out it was not out of roleplay so I breached rule 3.5. I failed to hotmic information that should have been hotmicced. 

Why should we unban you ?
At the time of the situation I was under the understand that there was a 3-1 rule for rebels, however it turns out that the rule only apply for police. Rebels dont have to value their life in any way. I have always disagreed to this and valued my life. I am the guy that surrenders mid gunfight if I know im going to die. Somehow after valuing my life for so long Ive come to believe that 3-1 was an actual rule, but I was clearly mistaken. The mistake is completely on my behalf and I am sorry for my actions. My 4 years day is coming in a weeks time now and I know the rules. Looking back at it now it makes sense, but sadly it is too late.

I like many others find the rules very confusing as there is so many unwritten rules and things that fall in under other rules. I was clearly confused and must have misunderstood the rules. I have seen people get banned for not valuing their life when they have a gun pointed at their head and it fell under poor roleplay I believe. All just bureaucracy and hard for a lot of people to understand. So many different rules and I must some how got it mixed up and thought a cop rule was a server rule. Been here for so long and clearly I wouldnt have been apart of RPUK for 4 years if I did not want to stay. This was a honest mistake and I can ensure that anything like this will not happen again. Rewatching the video it is clear to me that the information should have been shared. Although it did not affect the the situation it should still have been shared. I am very sorry for my actions and I will ensure that something like that will not happen again.

I was confused regarding a rule that I was under the understanding was a rule for everybody, but it only applies to police. The fault is completely on me. In my report you can also see me pointing this out in the start in my own report that I did not hotmic a part as I believed it was out of roleplay because I thought we had to value our lifes. I did not expect to get banned for wanting to value my life, but I completely understand Tiktaks decision looking back at it now. I must also admit that the punishment is a bit harsh as this happens to me a lot with police especially where they just get told off or a warning. Even though I believe it is a harsh punishment I do also believe that Tiktak is right in his decision that I should have known better. I have so many friends on the server shared between all factions and I hope that I will be able to return. Would hate to not be able to play with them.

Please accept my sincere apology. I know im not a saint and have been banned/warned before especially for RDM/poor roleplay related cases. I believe this is the first time that it is something else than that(Apart from landing in GZ once. Sorry Nalurah). I have truly been trying to improve since my last ban and I believe I have become a lot better. I am not sure what caused me to mix up the rules, but one thing is for sure. I can ensure that this will never happen again. I have made mistakes over my time on the server, but I have also played here for so many hours. Mistakes happen and with the amount of hours I have on this server clearly I have created myself a long wrap sheet. I try to constantly improve and I also believe that I have. 

Sorry for any mistakes my english aint too good, but should be understandable

For reference here the video and the report below. Happens at 2:30 ish

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[JohnJoeegan]

You have me confused now after reading through your appeal.

Just to get some things straight.

You thought you did not have to hot MIC your communications so you would comply with the "3-1 Rule" ? - Or am i missing your point ?

Just to make it clear for anyone reading the 3-1 rule is not a server rule.

You may think that your punishment was "a bit harsh"  however

You had been banned once in the past two months - (Now twice). You have been warned on three different occasions in the past 6-7months (One being from myself)

All of this after successfully appealing your 1.6 Ban from the LOA days - Please correct me if this is wrong, this one is off memory.

Please explain to us how you think that  your mentality and attitude  has changed since your last ban and your most recent? Do you think that you have Improved greatly? If so how?

 

[Cool]

You have me confused now after reading through your appeal.

Just to get some things straight.

You thought you did not have to hot MIC your communications so you would comply with the "3-1 Rule" ? - Or am i missing your point ?

Just to make it clear for anyone reading the 3-1 rule is not a server rule.

Basically I thought there was a 3-1 rule. Therefore I said to my gang out of rp that it was 3 guys vs me alone to inform them I wouldnt be allowed to do anything. For some reason I was under the understand that 3-1 was a rule for rebels. Not sure how I got that mixed up. 

You may think that your punishment was "a bit harsh"  however

You have been banned twice now in the past two months. You have been warned on three different occasions in the past 6-7months (One being from myself)

If you ask me then my last ban was not completely fair as I returned fire after being fired upon. However I still respect the decision made by Alfred. We had a talk in support about the situation with Aiden where we came to the conclusion that I would be unbanned, but the ban would still say on record.  Anyways doesnt matter. I fully accept the ban. Reference: 



As for the warnings I know 2 of them are from reports. One is from 7 months where I killed a guy after he told me "kill me". Poor from me but also a very long time ago. Reference:



Second warning is when I was reported by Sciencefreak. I killed a cop that I thought was involved in a RBA. I immediately admitted my wrong doing and apologized, however this wasnt sufficient for Sciencefreak and he reported me after resolving it and I got a warning. This warning was from you. I am sure you will agree that I handled it correctly. I fucked up and admitted to it and apologized, but unforgettably it was not sufficient. 



Third warning is for landing in GZ from Nalurah I believe. No excuse for that. I was just being stupid and immature believing it was a silly rule

All of this after successfully appealing your 1.6 Ban from the LOA days - Please correct me if this is wrong, this one is off memory.

I was banned for killing my own mate 08/10/2014, but back then it was hands up or die with unlimited ifrits and zafirs. Very different times

Please explain to us how you think that  your mentality and attitude  has changed since your last ban and your most recent? Do you think that you have Improved greatly? If so how  

 I think I started trying to improve myself back when I got the first warning 7 months ago. Sort of a wake up call after playing for such a long time. Ever since that I believe I have improved a lot in my roleplay in order to make sure that I always have high quality roleplay. Always making sure to initiate properly and always roleplay for a long time and doing everything in my power to avoid being the first to pull the trigger. I always try to not be the first one to shoot and I believe it has worked out for me. I do end up getting killed and going to jail a lot more, but my roleplay has also got a huge overhaul. Back in 2014 I was killing police inside of the police station with a zafir. All of my bans/warnings have been for either RDM or poor roleplay. I think that I have greatly improved in avoiding issues and making it more enjoyable for all parties involved.

I used to always think about winning and winning. All a situation mattered about was to win. Wouldnt matter what kind of situation. I think I have came to realize that it is not about winning. It is not just about killing and robbing everybody you can justify. It is about having a great time and enjoying yourself. But not only yourself. I try to make sure that all parties involved are having a great time and are enjoying themselves. My whole mentality has changed. Before it was about making bucks and just winning. Today it is about having fun with your friends while giving other people a great time aswell. My lastest ban was simply me misunderstanding and mixing up the rules. I honestly have no idea how I thought rebels had to to value their lifes. Perhaps it was just common sense to me, but clearly I was mistaken and I accept that. Another aspect where I have changed is instead of trying to cover up or deny my wrong doings I am a lot more mature. When I mess up then I always acknowledge it compared to the past. I would fight admins and claim it to be unjustified etc. I personally feel like I have improved a lot and that I am a lot more mature than I was 7 months ago. Obsly this ban is a lot different to all my prior ones. It is the first time I have managed to misunderstand the rules or mix them up. I personally do not think of it as severe as my prior bans for RDM/poor rp. It is not the classic way of breaking it where the person would be intentionally sharing information about for example positions while handcuffed to shift the outcome of a situation. It was simply a honest mistake where I had messed up the rules. I am very sorry for my actions. I believe I have come a long way improving both inside the game and outside. Out of all my bans this has to be the most stupid one. It is just such a stupid thing to mess up and it is depressing to think about how me mixing up a simple rule ends up in me getting banned after working hard to improve. 

To wrap it up I believe I have improved greatly the last 7 months. I hope that I once again can become an active part of this place and prove that to everybody. Been here for 4 years and I would hate to leave now. I am sorry for my actions. I promise to do everything in my power to keep on improving should you grant me to opportunity to do so.

 

[LONG BEARD]

As it's already pointed out, 2 bans 4 warnings.... How many chances should we give before you're shipped out for good?

Though you've been banned for failing to hotmic, I also feel you should have kept that weapon on your back until you'd established what the other guy was saying via RP given he was pointing a weapon at your head. As you say, no 'rule' to value your life but common sense would dictate that if you go through the process of taking a weapon off your back in front of someone pointing a rifle is realistically suicidal. Perhaps you were ruleplaying here, knowing he couldn't shoot.  With hindsight, how would you have dealt with the situation from start to finish?

 

[Cool]

As it's already pointed out, 2 bans 4 warnings.... How many chances should we give before you're shipped out for good?

John said it was 3 warnings and I have only been told of 3. Whats the 4th one for. Yeah 2 bans and 3/4 is too much and shouldnt happen, but it if you compare it to the amount of hours played and the time period of 4 years. Now I am aware that the last 7 months are 2 bans and 3 warnings, but staff and rules are getting tighter and tighter. I think if you go trough all of my warnings/bans you will discover that not one of them have been intended and that I have apologized admitted my mistake and tried my best to improve and learn from them. I am not complaining about my punishments and I accept them and take full responsibility. The thing that bothers me is the fact there is a big different en punishments. Not hotmicing happened to me on a daily basis when I played actively for 3-5 hours a day. If it was taken to support or staff the very maximum would have been a warning if even that. I understand its based on history etc. But only thing I have history with is poor rp or RDM. An area where I think I have greatly improved personally. Anyways doesnt matter I just wanted to get it off my heart. 

If you truly believe that I am here to cause trouble and break rules then feel free to set it to a permanent ban. I strongly believe that if you look over my history of warnings and bans you will discover that these have been maximum punishment and that most of them could have easily simple comment or verbal warning. Kind of when the police follows tickets sheet and give you the highest they possibly can. They are well within their rights to do so and you can not complain. It is just sad for people on the other end with good intentions. I am not going to deny anything that have been noted down in my account as they are all correct, but I do believe it has been harsh compared to similar cases. Been a part of RPUK for 4 years. Yes I have been warned and banned, but do you truly believe that I am here to cause purely issues? Every time I have made a mistake I have always admitted my wrong doing and apologized. I personally do not see 6 mistakes as a lot in a 4 years period. I am not sure why I am so unlucky in terms of resolving. Even when I apologize, offer compensation etc people still report it like with Sciencefreak where it was even said to be resolved then report goes up and warning flies. Being a part of the biggest gang clearly doesnt help as losing is never fun and payback is always sweet. Have you not done mistake during your time on RPUK. I wouldnt call 6 mistake in a period of 4 years that bad. Clearly I have been here long enough to prove that I want to keep calling RPUK my home of altis life servers. I will be more than happy to sit with you and ts and go through all of my warnings and I can explain them all to you and my opnion. 

Though you've been banned for failing to hotmic, I also feel you should have kept that weapon on your back until you'd established what the other guy was saying via RP given he was pointing a weapon at your head. As you say, no 'rule' to value your life but common sense would dictate that if you go through the process of taking a weapon off your back in front of someone pointing a rifle is realistically suicidal. Perhaps you were ruleplaying here, knowing he couldn't shoot.  With hindsight, how would you have dealt with the situation from start to finish?

Looking back the situation I wouldn't have change anything apart from the hotmicing. I had no idea what so ever what the guy intentions were. On the island it is normal procedure to draw your weapon when somebody draws theirs on you. Had he threatened my life then yeah obsly it would be a different case. Happens all the time. If you draw a gun on somebody they will maybe ask you to holsters yours and if you dont they will draw theirs. Police or rebels standard for everybody. Its common sense to draw your weapon for self protection in case they have bad intentions. Happens ingame and in real life. Like they say dont bring a knife to a gunfight. Police dont respond to an armed robbery unarmed. Dont see how it should be ruleplay when I didnt even know that he threatened my life. I approached him causal with a holstered gun saying Hello. This results in him drawing his weapon and therefore I draw mine for caring for my life. You say its common sense to not draw and gun. I say its common sense to draw it

 

[Stavik]

As Long Beard stated, how many chances are we going to give you?
Well, we are going to give you one more, you seem to have understood what was going on and the reasoning behind it.
We do not think you are here to cause trouble, but i think you should dig abit deeper in why you play on the server, and just have fun. Not only for your sake but the people you interact with.

Take this one chance, next time we will not be as lenient.. Take that to heart.


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