To all you so called "Gangs" out there part 2.

[PeachMaster]

Right, here i am again ladies and gentlemen, writing this because of a situation that happenend to me before.

Let me tell you this to all you people dissobeying the law or "protecting the law"

A bank is not a fucking Call of Duty place, just because you are in the vicinity of the bank doesn't GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO INSTANTLY SHOOT EVERYTHING THAT IS EVEN CLOSE OR ABOUT TO PASS BY THE BANK. 

You will be reported and if by luck, bannished from this amazing server.

Just today i was the negotiator of a situation where the robbers of the bank didn't care about the bank but a small sum of money to take care of their families and they had a hostage, i bravely went in there to negotiate the release of the hostage and by taking me instead of him, everything went fine until we got ambushed from the inside and by the outside of rebels, they randomly started shooting and several officers got killed, even after the situation has been dealt, WE STILL WERE UNDERFIRE.

Now the off RP part where i whine:

We had an amazing RP situation, we thought it we would be a simple shoot and kill scene, but no, we were met by 3 people simply demanded some easy money, time went on and my officers flocked to the scene to get the taste of the RP, we had over 13-15 officers at the SCENE just because of the RP DAMMIT. While negotiating you ambushed us, no talk, nothing, just started sniping from Talos and in bank, are you fucking kidding me? Are you here to RP or to shoot? Go to fucking battlefield, call of duty or minecraft what ever, just stay the fuck away from the server i enjoy playing on.

(Fine, they did combat logg later  but still, they gave us RP and we loved it)

And then came the fucking so called BLR,PLF and all those small gangs and just randomly started opening fire, you WHERE NOT EVEN IN THE BANK, you where in TALOS. 

Why do you whine on officers that we dissobey the rules, are cocky.. and yet when we ask of a name.. you go like: IT'S A POLICE OFFICER. You never give us a name, you add "POLICE" and try to soil our reputation. You keep forgetting, we are normal people playing an amazing game, and for some unknwon reason, you have something against us, and you call us officers rude when you simply welcome us with the same hostily? You've lost my respect you god dammn trigger happy people.

And i thank those 3 random persons who actually defended the self with words instead of bullets, LEARN IT PEOPLE.

PC Zippey/Peachmaster Zippey <3 

 

[Michael Bradley]

I don't see any other point in this than attention seeking in all honesty...

Report those who break rules and quit bitching... Period.

 

[Neo]

I don't mean to cause a problem, but what is this going to resolve? 

 

[Gourvo]

Bank rp nah m8...we were robbing our guy was negotiations with cop half way trough negotiation our guy was sniped by cop. When peole, see the bank been robbed they go to "purge" if you go with the intention of rp you won't have a good time

 

[Jay]

Shocked that threads like this are pretty much required. I made one myself a long time ago - which I dug up for historical sake: - The issues have slightly changed, but in essence, the same damn thing.

After 5.0, us whitelisted rebels will be setting the example (whether this experiment works or not, well, we'll see.).

My personal hope is, seeing that I was requested to come back for my attitude towards the server and the RP, that I can myself help shunt the community back in the right direction.

Threads like this should not have to happen, besides making my own in the past.

 

[PLF Wolf]

See to be fair Zippey PLF sat outside and waited and waited and waited as we didn want to disturb the RP we only returned fire once fired upon, i could say the same tonight, DI sampan and his trigger happy friends, we took a hostage to red zone, and asked for a specfic PC she came,to free the hostage in return for 200k she came in our car with us as we had threatened to kil the hostage if she didnt, we strictly warned no other officers to get involved and the RP at almost 2 hours long we were just about to do the trade, and at no time did we plan on killing or shooting any officers, ask spunky we could of killed him we didn, we wanted to bring some rp back to the server, as the chopper with the money came in and the hostage ready to walk away with the officer, boom, hit squad appears from the hill, totally ruined the night for any of us involved in it, there was no need for it, the negotiator did her job and left un harmed so did the hostage and so did spunky, but naaaa not good enough for some eh. always gotta end in crushing cars and killing people.

 

[Starsky]

Time to change the treasury guys!

 

[PeachMaster]

Thanks for the response, i guess i was just annoyed, hehe. 

 

[PLF Wolf]

Thanks for the response, i guess i was just annoyed, hehe. 

We really did hang back to let the RP play out, we only shot when fired apon, unlike ur guys tonight, 2 hours of RP for the DI's to run in kill the negotiator and ruin the entire event, just as the trade was being made.

 

[Kris!]

We really did hang back to let the RP play out, we only shot when fired apon, unlike ur guys tonight, 2 hours of RP for the DI's to run in kill the negotiator and ruin the entire event, just as the trade was being made.

They usually wait until they've got the hostage and then fire, guess they got bored this time.

 

[Sovereign]

Bank rp nah m8...we were robbing our guy was negotiations with cop half way trough negotiation our guy was sniped by cop. When peole, see the bank been robbed they go to "purge" if you go with the intention of rp you won't have a good time

The "Treasury Is Being Robbed" should be disabled for the public(aka police only.) so people don't show up for a fight as when it pops up in the middle of the screen some people see it as a death beacon.

 

[puppy1004]

Yes, Sovereig! That would make me so happy

 

[Vlad Vagin]

We were ready and had a ambush ready incase they got out with the money (we in PLF)

We killed one officer that started shooting at our ifrit, then we went further back to keep a eye on the situation. We did not go inside the dome at any time, becouse we saw and heard that you guys were nagotiating.
And we had one goal, to take the bank robbers on the road.

So dont accuse us for shooting and fucking up your rp please :

 

[Fuel]

I was part of both these incidents,

the bank situation, yes it awesome RP we though we was going to walk away from the bank without even firing a shot it was great but no alas PLF deciding that there was police at the bank and even though they was not involved in the bank job decided to snipe at officers in there because they have a Call of Duty mentality.

One of the PLF member cant remember which but some of our guys have it recorded was running around in there killing officers until I believe Bob killed him this was while we was still negotiating.

and the hostage situation,

You kidnapped the negotiator, so no it was not 2 hours of RP it was 2 hours of you kidnapping the negotiator, we had to get a second negotiator.

The job of a negotiator is to speak with you work out a release deal and then go fetch the ransom and bring it to you.

How can she bring it to you if you hold her against her will and get her to drop her gear, kidnapping is against the geneva convention (Rules) and we killed multiple members of PLF yesterday and every single one of you combat logged.

 

[Simon-]

Fuel, the person inside the bank was blr. I believe plf was the black ifrit on the hill the kept coming to the entrance we were at.

 

[Fuel]

Fuel, the person inside the bank was blr. I believe plf was the black ifrit on the hill the kept coming to the entrance we were at.

Either way they should not be interfering they see the bank is being robbed and just turn up so they can kill cops

 

[Simon-]

PLF didn't really do anything wrong, the person who killed multiple officers was blr. PLF were in a position to fire on the chopper I used to extract the remaining officers and fire on the officers making their way to the chopper but didn't. I'll admit I've had bad experiences with them in the past but on this occasion I can't help but think they're certainly making efforts to improve their RP (atleast not interrupt what others are trying to do). Look at it as a fresh incident, what actually happened... Two guys took another man hostage at the bank, and officers responded, PLF stayed on the hill and kept coming in their ifrit to look at the situation and kept leaving when seeing the officers were dealing with the incident. Maybe they could have watched from the hill, but not that bad really. Blr came for a bit of COD in the bank, we killed them, and got all of our men out. I don't think PLF really deserve any hate for this incident.

I'm not sure what happened with regard to sniping but doesn't that say something about the setup we had at the bank? We had a lot of people in the bank as well as at the hospital. We knew about the PLF guys on the hill right after I dropped the TFU team in telos (Didn't know they were PLF until they came closer in the ifrit). Now with 5 people in the bank before the TFU guys arrived was the best thing they could have done was to cover the entrance they did? Or maybe they could have moved up the hill to remove the what was then an unidentified threat from the hill. I'm not saying the judgement the TFU commander made was wrong, only that it could have been done differently.

I think it's easy to blame someone we've had bad experiences in the past but on THIS occasion I'd like to think they're making efforts to improve their conduct. I like many others would like to remove the alerts from the civilians, but while it's still their we have to deal with it and we could have easily protected ourselves with the amount of officers present from the threat of PLF when they were identified on the hill.

blr are the people who's conduct at that bank job I have an issue with...

I had logged off for the second incident, so don't really know what happened there.

 

[PLF Wolf]

and the hostage situation,

You kidnapped the negotiator, so no it was not 2 hours of RP it was 2 hours of you kidnapping the negotiator, we had to get a second negotiator.

The job of a negotiator is to speak with you work out a release deal and then go fetch the ransom and bring it to you.

How can she bring it to you if you hold her against her will and get her to drop her gear, kidnapping is against the geneva convention (Rules) and we killed multiple members of PLF yesterday and every single one of you combat logged.

She was at no time restrained, and she had comms, how else did we orginise the pick up? how did you know at all times where she was, christ our hostage wasnt even ziptied at the later part of it, because both were compliant, she had contact with outside officers at all times, until that is some civ gunned down PC spunky, nothing to do with us, we never combat logged, you're just throwing accusations around, at no time did we plan on killing the negotiator, the hostage or PC Spunky even when he didn do as i asked, the SPC involved even got a lap dance off the hostage, it was a nice RP that i can assure you did last for 2 hours, from start to finish, but again you come in killing us, when our aim of keeping the hostage on red island was to deter you from ruining yet another RP, ALso no where at all in the rules do i see that i cannot kidnapp a negotiator (not that she was) except in the bank, we were on the rebel island *No rules apply here* maybe one day we will have a successful hostage negotiation without blood shed.. and thanks Simon.

South Tip Of Altis ( Rebel Controlled Red Zone)

This is a no rule zone!

VDM is allowed here.

RDM is allowed here.

Flying is allowed at any height here.

All Weapons are legal, Drugs are legal , Iffrits and 50.cal offroads are legal.

The police are allowed into the red zone at their own risk on operations, Anything purchased from the rebel store the cops will scrap rather than impound, The police still consider south of Altis as the queens land

 

[Fuel]

She was at no time restrained, and she had comms, how else did we orginise the pick up? how did you know at all times where she was, christ our hostage wasnt even ziptied at the later part of it, because both were compliant, she had contact with outside officers at all times, until that is some civ gunned down PC spunky, nothing to do with us, we never combat logged, you're just throwing accusations around, at no time did we plan on killing the negotiator, the hostage or PC Spunky even when he didn do as i asked, the SPC involved even got a lap dance off the hostage, it was a nice RP that i can assure you did last for 2 hours, from start to finish, but again you come in killing us, when our aim of keeping the hostage on red island was to deter you from ruining yet another RP, ALso no where at all in the rules do i see that i cannot kidnapp a negotiator (not that she was) except in the bank, we were on the rebel island *No rules apply here* maybe one day we will have a successful hostage negotiation without blood shed.. and thanks Simon.

South Tip Of Altis ( Rebel Controlled Red Zone)

This is a no rule zone!

VDM is allowed here.

RDM is allowed here.

Flying is allowed at any height here.

All Weapons are legal, Drugs are legal , Iffrits and 50.cal offroads are legal.

The police are allowed into the red zone at their own risk on operations, Anything purchased from the rebel store the cops will scrap rather than impound, The police still consider south of Altis as the queens land

she was kidnapped outside of the redzone at the very south, the donator gun shop, just because she was not restrained does not mean she was not kidnapped, she was held against her will.

I will get the guys to upload the combat logging if you wish.