This can't be allowed, can it?

[Greedforce]

A group of people were walking around Kore, opening all unlocked doors to find player houses. They approached my friend (they did not know I was there at the time), asked how much money they had, threatened to break in or shoot if my friend didn't open the house and let them look through my friend's stuff. None of this was done in a RP fashion, but rather as power play to gain meta information. When my friend tried to engage them in roleplay they exclaimed "stalling", pulled a gun out and knocked my friend out. At this point I left, because they began to turn their attention away from the scene. However they continued their search for player houses.

My friend and I called police to the area and when they got there, the group didn't RP, but instead went on to pull their weapons and threaten to murder us because we "snitched". When the police drew their own weapons and asked the group to put theirs away, they did so, just long enough for the cops to start questioning me and my friend about the incident. At this point the group stole a helicopter from another friend of ours in the area and flew off. The police did nothing to stop this, but instead just explained to the owner of the helicopter that they couldn't do anything. At this point part of the group came back, zip tied my first friend and took them away in the stolen helicopter who they had just flown to the other side of the town. They also started shooting at the police. The situation led to a police chase and that's the last we saw of them for a while.

While picking up my friend, who eventually got released, because the pilot of the stolen helicopter "didn't understand why they kidnapped her in the first place" (we never saw the helicopter again), we were stopped by the same police who were at the scene, saying we were under suspicion for robbing a fuel station (which we hadn't btw). After a few minutes of talking they came to the conclusion that we had done no such thing and upon questioning them we learned that they hadn't even followed the group who kidnapped my friend past the first hill.

So in summary, we got threatened and power played and essentially everything but RDMed without so much as a hint of RP. When the cops showed up they did nothing, let our helicopter be stolen and my friend be kidnaped and then proceeded to shut down the "investigation".

The group was all masked and I didn't think to take the police officers names, as I was frankly so baffled at what had just happened.

It should also be mentioned that I'm at the time of writing this not sure if this is considered worthy of a report, nor how I would get the names of the masked people.

But nevertheless I felt the need to post this information somewhere, not out of a sense of revenge, but rather because I believe things like this will destroy the server if they keep happening.
 

If anyone has any input on how this could have been handled better by me or any other party, I'd love to hear it.

 

[Greedforce]

Update: The friend who had the helicopter stolen found it (checked by locking and unlocking it) and got in. Tried to take off and was shot out.

 

[Nazgul]

who ever shot him his name would be on his screen on the bottom left

 

[Jayce Owens]

(I'm the friend he mentions that got kidnapped and knocked out).
If it had all been RP I personally think it would be fine, but I can't help but to feel like some tries to ruin other people's day (don't get me wrong, I had pretty fun getting kidnapped and have been robbed before) and the system is kind of working in favor of the robber. Especially when they can terrorise me and my friends like this(where others in same town that didn't like them trying to brake into their houses but don't know if they got same treatment as me), steal a heli in front of the police(Btw I was kidnapped in my friend's heli, kind of ironic) and not really do anything. Ok, a heli isn't the easiest thing to hunt down and vehicles get stolen all the time but the RP rule is still broken by them in my opinion.

*Shrug* I'm kind of new so don't know how things are run on the server yet.

I read the rules but might have missed something too.

 

[Greedforce]

who ever shot him his name would be on his screen on the bottom left

Turns out the person who shot him out of the heli did warn him apparently, and he did see his name, just didn't have any reason to report him, since we weren't sure it's the same guy from before. My bad for getting that wrong.

 

[Gordon]

I'll address this from a police perspective. I wasn't present at the situation so I can only give my input based on what you've provided in the thread.

Police

At this point the group stole a helicopter from another friend of ours in the area and flew off. The police did nothing to stop this

As nice as it would've been for you to get your helicopter back, shooting it out of the sky as it was stolen above a built up area such as Kore is definitely not a risk that would be worth taking at that time due to the obvious danger it could pose to the residents of Kore. Could more have been done to monitor the situation and your assets? Probably. But as obvious, human lives come before assets and there's a relatively large possibility that there simply weren't enough officers present to keep eyes on everything whilst still seeing to yourself.

we were stopped by the same police who were at the scene, saying we were under suspicion for robbing a fuel station

There's many reasons that this could be the case. If there were witness statements provided then the police may have identified you by your clothing? Or you may have had your vehicles registration plates scanned by a Police ANPR camera which would allow the police to check your criminal background. It could simply be that you were seen in the area with some form of weapon.

If you'd like any further guidance or specific questions answered, let me know. I'd be glad to help.
Kind Regards,
CC Gordon

 

[PC Akula]

Update: The friend who had the helicopter stolen found it (checked by locking and unlocking it) and got in. Tried to take off and was shot out.

This was over an hour away at airport I was refuelling and you drove up and unlocked it to try take off.

 

[Jayce Owens]

Not much that can be done now either way with the heli. We don't have video evidence of all this so we can't report them, but I plan to record everytime I play in the future just for that reason.

But to the harrassment: Is there someone we can send a message to if we find ourselves in a similar situation? And I mean OORP if they break the rules and we can't report them, to get some sort of advice or help with the situation.

And is there any way to get the name of a masked person? If not I feel like you just need to mask your face and you are pretty much immune to getting banned (unless you get shot by them or something like that). High quality RP and metagamin/rules are hard to manage together as I understand it. Just a shame that people can't follow the rules

 

[Jayce Owens]

I will also add that 2 of us are really new to this RP and I myself are not yet into the RP thinking of things. I tend to think more of a game standpoint than RP standpoint(and I think my friends also think from a game standpoint but I can't talk for them), I like RP and want to get into it but I'm afraid it will take some time before I'm used to it. Probably why we take this a bit too serious but I'm a little bit worried this will ruin the fun for some. But what do I know.

Thanks for all the answers so far. The police standpoint made me understand their situation a little bit more.

 

[Simon Ross]

You can keychain people if they are masked and you have witnessed them break a rule. If you are using this information in game, it is meta gaming (bannable)

To keychain somebody you stand near them, press Y, then go to the box where you can hand people items. Click on the part where you can see names, and this list is the name of nearby players, which will allow you to take their name to report if they have broken a rule in front of you

 

[Jayce Owens]

You can keychain people if they are masked and you have witnessed them break a rule. If you are using this information in game, it is meta gaming (bannable)

To keychain somebody you stand near them, press Y, then go to the box where you can hand people items. Click on the part where you can see names, and this list is the name of nearby players, which will allow you to take their name to report if they have broken a rule in front of you

Ok so I can get banned if they break a rule and I use that method to report them? I understand why but it also feels a bit weird to ban someone you need to risk getting banned yourself. Little bit funny tbh

Thanks for the tip though!

 

[Simon Ross]

Ok so I can get banned if they break a rule and I use that method to report them? I understand why but it also feels a bit weird to ban someone you need to risk getting banned yourself. Little bit funny tbh

Thanks for the tip though!

No, you can get banned if you use the method to get their name and then use this to affect the in game situation, however to simply Get their name for an OOC report you won’t be banned for it, as there is no other way to get their name 

 

[Jayce Owens]

No, you can get banned if you use the method to get their name and then use this to affect the in game situation, however to simply Get their name for an OOC report you won’t be banned for it, as there is no other way to get their name 

Oh ok thanks for clearing that up! I don't like "cheating" in any game so I will only use this if there is a good reason for it. Thanks a lot for the tip, makes me feel a bit safer if this ever happens again.

 

[Greedforce]

I'll address this from a police perspective. I wasn't present at the situation so I can only give my input based on what you've provided in the thread.

Police

As nice as it would've been for you to get your helicopter back, shooting it out of the sky as it was stolen above a built up area such as Kore is definitely not a risk that would be worth taking at that time due to the obvious danger it could pose to the residents of Kore. Could more have been done to monitor the situation and your assets? Probably. But as obvious, human lives come before assets and there's a relatively large possibility that there simply weren't enough officers present to keep eyes on everything whilst still seeing to yourself.

There's many reasons that this could be the case. If there were witness statements provided then the police may have identified you by your clothing? Or you may have had your vehicles registration plates scanned by a Police ANPR camera which would allow the police to check your criminal background. It could simply be that you were seen in the area with some form of weapon.

If you'd like any further guidance or specific questions answered, let me know. I'd be glad to help.
Kind Regards,
CC Gordon

I understand how and why we could not get the heli back yes, but that's not what I'm irritated about. The fact that you yourself wrote "human lives come before assets" and that this was obviously not a priority at all, as our kidnapped friend, who was taken away, wasn't even investigated, as stated by one of the involved officers themselves. They just let them fly off. Which btw, we saw coming, and told the police about. They just decided to ignore our warnings and the fact that, like stated, the involved group were threatening to murder us in front of the police, at the scene. So although I agree with you, I think this was extremely poorly handled, which is the source of our irritation.

As for the later fuel station situation, it was apparently the car that was wanted, which we've since realized may relate to incidents that happened over a year ago, when only the owner of the car used to play. But of course it's impossible to be sure if this is the case, so who knows. But at least there's some form of explanation there.