SPG Uniform

[SGT Dean Hastings]

SPG Uniform​

Which Arma 3 Classname is your texture for:

a3/charachters_f_beta\indep\data\ia\_soldier_01_clothing_co_paa

Explain your creation:

A uniformed skin for the Specialist Protection Group aka SPG. I do not represent SPG, I just made this and thought it would be cool if implemented.

I am open to making changes based on popular feedback:

Yes

If successfully approved I confirm this texture will be exclusive to Roleplay.co.uk:

Yes

If successfully approved I confirm I will email this texture to email@roleplay.co.uk:

Yes

Without carrier rig:

 

[Ace J Hunter]

Already way ahead of you XD
Album: https://imgur.com/a/ebMWBfY

Credits for the skins @Santo

 

[Smith]

That last picture you posted Ace, the ones on the right look really good especially.

 

[ShadowDirector]

-1.

Sorry but I think the cops have enough skins, I think time needs to be spent elsewhere.

 

[SGT Dean Hastings]

-1.

Sorry but I think the cops have enough skins, I think time needs to be spent elsewhere.

Thats why we've done the skins. The devs only need to upload the file

 

[ShadowDirector]

Thats why we've done the skins. The devs only need to upload the file

I know but to be honest the cops have an outstanding amount of skins already, I feel like if this was added you lot should give up something to get this in. 

 

[Riz]

Looks great. +1  

 

[Ace J Hunter]

I know but to be honest the cops have an outstanding amount of skins already, I feel like if this was added you lot should give up something to get this in. 

700/800Kb is nothing in comparison to the rest of the mission file. But by principle, if we want something we will have to get rid of something. Therefore, we have already planned to propose for certain things to be removed if needed. Overall, the argument is that SPG don't currently have a uniform and it only makes sense for us to have one as all other spec units for multiuple reasons such as identification, uniqueness, marking etc... But otherwise, for having the dev team focus on one part more than another and "spend time" elsewhere is not really relevant as it doesn't take much extra work to add a skin in. Whereas if it were to be a whole custom system which would have to be coded in, then it would make sense.

 

[Maxim]

https://imgur.com/N8l8WNH

I rate these, need something that's actually different, the civilian looking ones look too much like rebel clothing so I wouldn't recommend them.

 

[Ji]

pointless unit, dont know why its even a thing

 

[Simon Ross]

Don’t feel like this is needed - they are already distinct with their Unmarked SUV, Bandanas etc. When they turn up to a situation that this always clear they are SPG, and I don’t find think they really have a need for a uniform. 

 

[Aethon]

Never seen SPG and not immediately known who it was tbh, that being said would be nice to see more cops wearing colours other than black, the blue one would be cool.

 

[.Jasonnn]

I know but to be honest the cops have an outstanding amount of skins already, I feel like if this was added you lot should give up something to get this in. 

Why do you chose to go out of your way to say cops get this, that and shouldn't get it? As a faction we can use more skins to make the specialised units more relatable to real life units which in turn would increase roleplay oportunities and etc!

You're thinking of the smaller picture "Oh no, cops have new skins.. now I gotta know what this looks like so I can shoot them in gunfights." Like, hush fam. The community is allowing us to implement our own skins at their discretion, surely saying they've done a good job would maybe boost their confidence in making other skins! Maybe even for The Cartel if y'all wanted it.

All in all, it's enhancing RP so that people know they are SPG. 

Don’t feel like this is needed - they are already distinct with their Unmarked SUV, Bandanas etc. When they turn up to a situation that this always clear they are SPG, and I don’t find think they really have a need for a uniform. 

Again, yes they have their bandanas and unmarked SUV's but whose to say that it ain't Specter, or maybe high command using their command vehicles? SPG use them, but so do other units in the police which means you gotta think about the bigger picture again!

SPG is a roleplay based unit within the police, having their own uniform will surely enhance people's view on them especially new players when they see them completing their tasks for the mayor or whatever. It's an underated unit and a uniform could help them be known more within the server. 

This is not an official SPG response as I'm not in that unit, I am very board and this caught my eye. Probably doesn't make sense but I think I got what I wanted to say over

 

[Simon Ross]

Again, yes they have their bandanas and unmarked SUV's but whose to say that it ain't Specter, or maybe high command using their command vehicles? SPG use them, but so do other units in the police which means you gotta think about the bigger picture again!

SPG is a roleplay based unit within the police, having their own uniform will surely enhance people's view on them especially new players when they see them completing their tasks for the mayor or whatever. It's an underated unit and a uniform could help them be known more within the server. 

Spectre wouldn't go around in unmarked SUV with a uniform matching SPG, they have literally no reason to as they can go either fully undercover or where their normal uniform. Likewise with command. However I would also say command do not have an argument, as they can do whatever they like within reason, like go on a patrol in a PCSO uniform with a MK1 on their back.

As for saying "having their own uniform". Well they already do. The bandana, carrier rig and black SUV always makes it clear when it is SPG around. Just because they don't have a unique skin for it, it doesn't mean they don't have their own uniform. RIR in NHS has their own uniform, which is just the addition of the High Vis vest, but no one is asking for a specific skin for them.

Whilst the skin is nice, I feel like it is unnecessary, and I would also say realistically it is just another black/dark police uniform. If their uniform was to be a proper different colour rather than another black or Navy Blue uniform I would be more supportive, but another black sort of uniform just feels unnecessary. Maybe if it was to predominantly be a Blood Red colour or a lighter blue I would prefer it, but I would say that the colour is just too close to the countless other uniforms which are currently in the police.

That being said, it is a nice skin, but I just don't feel like it is required.

 

[Santo]

As for saying "having their own uniform". Well they already do. The bandana, carrier rig and black SUV always makes it clear when it is SPG around. Just because they don't have a unique skin for it, it doesn't mean they don't have their own uniform. RIR in NHS has their own uniform, which is just the addition of the High Vis vest, but no one is asking for a specific skin for them.

while i agree that we technically do have our own uniform, it is not one that distinguishes us from others: 

Two screenshots i've found of other members of the police wearing 'our' uniform without ever being on an SPG patrol, as SPG we do a very specific job that most of the time relies on people messaging us for 'protection' this becomes difficult when there are numerous other officers around in our clothing and vehicles, having a specific uniform for SPG would in my opinion distinguish us from other police.

 

[ShadowDirector]

Why do you chose to go out of your way to say cops get this, that and shouldn't get it? As a faction we can use more skins to make the specialised units more relatable to real life units which in turn would increase roleplay oportunities and etc!

You're thinking of the smaller picture "Oh no, cops have new skins.. now I gotta know what this looks like so I can shoot them in gunfights." Like, hush fam. The community is allowing us to implement our own skins at their discretion, surely saying they've done a good job would maybe boost their confidence in making other skins! Maybe even for The Cartel if y'all wanted it.

All in all, it's enhancing RP so that people know they are SPG. 

Again, yes they have their bandanas and unmarked SUV's but whose to say that it ain't Specter, or maybe high command using their command vehicles? SPG use them, but so do other units in the police which means you gotta think about the bigger picture again!

SPG is a roleplay based unit within the police, having their own uniform will surely enhance people's view on them especially new players when they see them completing their tasks for the mayor or whatever. It's an underated unit and a uniform could help them be known more within the server. 

This is not an official SPG response as I'm not in that unit, I am very board and this caught my eye. Probably doesn't make sense but I think I got what I wanted to say over

Okay let me start off by saying that I am not shaming their work, I think the skins look nice however I am saying that I feel like the Police have enough already. I mean why do the Police need a skin for every little thing they have in the faction?

Police Hunter:

| AR Hunter 

| NCA Hunter

| Command Hunter

I mean thats just a small dose of the amount of wasted file space there is here, I mean why not just have one skin saying Police on the side and be done with it. But no they have to go and have different text because "realism" but again realism only comes into effect when its in ones favour. otherwise I am sure a lot would be different here. I think they have done a good job on the skins but I am just simply saying that I feel like you lot have enough in that department. If some skins skins were removed id happy to give it a +1, but for now.

-1

 

[Ace J Hunter]

Okay let me start off by saying that I am not shaming their work, I think the skins look nice however I am saying that I feel like the Police have enough already. I mean why do the Police need a skin for every little thing they have in the faction?

Police Hunter:

| AR Hunter 

| NCA Hunter

| Command Hunter

I mean thats just a small dose of the amount of wasted file space there is here, I mean why not just have one skin saying Police on the side and be done with it. But no they have to go and have different text because "realism" but again realism only comes into effect when its in ones favour. otherwise I am sure a lot would be different here. I think they have done a good job on the skins but I am just simply saying that I feel like you lot have enough in that department. If some skins skins were removed id happy to give it a +1, but for now.

-1

I completely agree with the hunter point. That was the primary plan with what skin to remove if SPG skin were to be added.

 

[SGT Dean Hastings]

Let me make a few points:

Non-used Police assets:
NCA Van, excess hunter skins, command uniform (does pop out from time to time but is increasingly rare), AR have two uniforms, I believe we also have a skinned police boat. Many assets there that are mostly unused now and becoming extremely rare. I don't think many would mind these being removed (I think the command uniform should stay of all things I've listed because I think its great and should be seen more). 

But why do SPG need a skin?
As stated they are a unit that focuses on protection of VIP's and groups. SPG can be messaged to require said support. Their operations are internal meaning they are co-ordinated amongst themselves except when additional support is needed. Being visually distinguishable would have a massive effect on their clients because their clients will know who is there for them and who are the standard response officers. For this very reason I would say they are in need of a uniform more than most of the other units for this reason. Also bare in mind all other units have their own uniform of some kind, SPG is the only unit currently being left out, think about that for a second. 

But I want the devs to work on other things!

As shown, the skins are already made, several actually. It doesn't take much time if any at all really to upload a file. So don't worry; the implementation of this will not soak up tons of dev time, it will take less than a minute to upload a file. 

 

[Simon Ross]

As shown, the skins are already made, several actually. It doesn't take much time if any at all really to upload a file. So don't worry; the implementation of this will not soak up tons of dev time, it will take less than a minute to upload a file. 

Would the police be open to other colours, as currently they are all the same blue black except from rtu- a new lighter shade of blue or a blood red would keep it constant with the blue/black/dark theme whilst making it a uniform which is significantly unique - as with the NCA and AR uniform from a distance at a quick glance they loon relatively similar and I feel like this would just end up being another confusion