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Ant Eldraw

Ant Eldraw

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How can it be possible for us to have a fair chance against the police vehicles when you have a motorbike that can do over 150mph on its back wheel?

Can you slow down these vehicles or at least give us a better chance by giving other bikes a boost? This bike in the video can actually go over 160mph. As you can see I hit 159mph in this short time.

The Bati only does around 110 maxed out if its lucky, Baring in mind its supposed to be a RACE bike!

If this is the kind of thing the bike can do, what on earth can their cars do aswell? 
 

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I've seen videos where there has been 6 of them against 1 bike.

It's not about how many use them anyways. It's about the advantage they have if they choose to.

 
Police bike users POV:

- The police should not be doing any wheelies like you did in that video which massively limits the acceleration.

- The seatbelt which your friend was very shocked by doesn't stop you from coming off the bike at all, it just stops you from when you actually want to get off the bike which is really annoying.

- I get the frustration with "The Bati only does around 110 maxed out if its lucky, Baring in mind its supposed to be a RACE bike!" but its not upgraded and a local bike which again gives the civilian the advantage of not being able to be added to the watchlist and just go through a barrier, chase over.

- I understand your perspective with it being too fast but bikes are such a massive meta with criminals (especially with drug sellers) that the police need a way to combat that, otherwise people on bikes just go through 1 barrier and the chase is over.

- "It's not about how many use them anyways. It's about the advantage they have if they choose to." I understand the point but the amount of people using the bike meta while selling drugs mean that we can only catch 1 in 100 bike users.

 
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Police bike users POV:

- The police should not be doing any wheelies like you did in that video which massively limits the acceleration.

- The seatbelt which your friend was very shocked by doesn't stop you from coming off the bike at all, it just stops you from when you actually want to get off the bike which is really annoying.

- I get the frustration with "The Bati only does around 110 maxed out if its lucky, Baring in mind its supposed to be a RACE bike!" but its not upgraded and a local bike which again gives the civilian the advantage of not being able to be added to the watchlist and just go through a barrier, chase over.

- I understand your perspective with it being too fast but bikes are such a massive meta with criminals (especially with drug sellers) that the police need a way to combat that, otherwise people on bikes just go through 1 barrier and the chase is over.

- "It's not about how many use them anyways. It's about the advantage they have if they choose to." I understand the point but the amount of people using the bike meta while selling drugs mean that we can only catch 1 in 100 bike users.
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I do understand your points on this, but I was also told that not even the import bikes do not go that fast.

Even if your not doing a wheelie the police bikes do crazy speeds. The wheelie just gives a lot more acceleration.

If the police aren't stopping the bikers they have the option to use bikes themselves. Bikes only use those shortcuts because they always come around in cars so it's easier to get away.

Again this is just about the advantage the speeds give the police. The cars are the same. I've not got proof on the speeds of their cars but I was in an m4 Duke getting chased off an x5 (or similar) the other day and they caught up with me so easily. It's a joke really.

 
- "If the police aren't stopping the bikers they have the option to use bikes themselves. Bikes only use those shortcuts because they always come around in cars so it's easier to get away." Most police do not have the option to use the bikes, its only Frontline Command and Roads Policing which means that they are limited numbers and when they are out they target bikes because that's what they're good at. Also the trick is that speed is not what you want to you when evading, its knowledge of your surroundings and driving skill.

- "Again this is just about the advantage the speeds give the police. The cars are the same. I've not got proof on the speeds of their cars but I was in an m4 Duke getting chased off an x5 (or similar) the other day and they caught up with me so easily. It's a joke really." The M4 Duke as well as other cars had some massive debufs recently which I believe is looking to be balanced my devs but that takes time for them to do. At the end of the day what I am reading is that the "balance" you want the police vehicles to be considerably slower than civ vehicles so you can just go to any highway and accelerate away then hide in a bush once you're out of site.

- "It's a joke really" The devs (rightfully so) don't take well to attitude because they are volunteers getting winged at for not using their free time to make ours easier, so just be careful.

EDIT - An addition is that the police bikes are brittle as fuck which mean the can't hit barriers like civ bikes can.

 
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  1. You can't turn on the bikes whilst doing wheelies.
  2. Hitting 1 thing at even 60 mph breaks the bike immediately meaning it needs repairing
  3. The bikes when not doing wheelies do about 130, which is well balanced.
  4. As of right now, there are 35/248 people in the police allowed to use the police bikes, the majority do not use the bikes very often.
  5. It is very easy to stop an officer who is riding a bike. Either keep going until they fall off, crash once and their bike breaks or ram them off.
  6. A Police Biker cannot go to all situations a vehicle can. For example, firearms incidents

Alright, good, now we've discussed how the bikes are balanced, the other points

  1. Yes, Police ARVs are far too quick. They outpace other police vehicles by a large margin and are not balanced within their job role.
  2. No, the seatbelt does not work
 
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I find it quiet funny that you come to the forums after noticing how fast the bike goes but judging by your responses am gonna take a reasonable quests you have no idea about police nor anything about it for the server.

1) In order to even have the bike you have to do specialised training in which you have to be in the police for around 1 month. For civs this is not  the case you if you want can just get bikes and stuff with no training what so ever and just ride it.

2) The bikes go fast yes. like a lot of bikes do. The police bike allows us to combat people sellling drugs on there bikes who as soon as they see police fuck off and do jumps and shit to get away. Again anyone can use the bike to sell drugs but as Phoenix said only 35/248 people can use it. while everyone that sells drugs will just steal bikes or use personal ones.

3) Its is brittle as fuck. there no armour on the think CONTRAST to what civs can do which is upgrade there bikes to increase armour.

So with all that in mind + alot of other things i havent gone into details about can you see how this suggestion is litterly "they have, i dont like it" type of suggestion and not one thats actually been thought out nor has it actually been properly researched to understand the police POV.

just remember this. CIVS has the freedom to choose any car / bike they want + rob vehicles aswell - POLICE you have to do trainings and be there for a long time. There has been many times cars have been able to get away from us and the only vehicle that can keep up is the interceptor. which i believe on 12 people can use. 

Right now police are limited as it is. Theses type of suggestions just limits us more and more and honestly shows the people just want to limit the police so they can win every situation. But ill wait for your response to this and my previous question 🙂

 
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Why do you not understand that this is about the balance of the vehicles? Maybe all police vehicles not just the bikes.

I UNDERSTAND WHY THE POLICE BIKES ARE USED FOR DRUG DEALERS/SELLERS.
I now understand only so many of you can use it, and I also agree, if the Police bikes have no armour, they should have that (Don't agree with how much strength Police cars have against our full armoured vehicles).

This thread is totally only about the balance of your speeds against ours.

It would have been good if the HUGE advantage you have when it comes to speed and strength (Not bike strength) was more balanced so that it come down to more skill than the way it is now.

 
Right. Bike speeds. you are aware that bike is strictly regulated not to mention the fact that bike also helps us keep up with fast cars which otherwise an interceptor would be needed. 

You are also saying balance for the server BUT nothing is balanced mate. that the harsh truth about it. The police has advantages AS does civs having advantages.

Civs - pick any vehicle / guns you want and not require training.

POLICE - have to do set trainings to get access to said vehicles and weapons.

 
Balance is more than just speed.

There are numerous factors to weigh in here:

  1. Top Speed
  2. Acceleration
  3. Weight
  4. Armour
  5. Handling
  6. Internal Police Rules
  7. How it fares with the Meta

Taking this into account, I don't feel there's a substantive argument to be made to directly state "all police bikes must be slower"

 
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