Rule implemented for medics

[lionel]

in fairness I see what ash is saying and not always does saying "Rule B" work, I have been robbing people at piers kitchen in the past, when there has been a shootout, a hostile has been killed, the medic arrived and I personally stated "Rule B, do not revive". the medic has seemingly gone away but in fact they had moved their car, and snuck back and revived the guy we told them not to. maybe ashes rule where killing medics is a bit off but at least more emphasis on the need for medics to follow their own rules.

the person on the ground is just as important to us as you are.If you leave the area we can goto that person and help them without endangering anybody. Every life has equal value, I'm sure if it was you waiting for that medic you would be just as grateful for his patience and compassion.

In your example you are robbing others and you classify them as hostile..........

 

[Superhitmandan]

the person on the ground is just as important to us as you are.

If you leave the area we can goto that person and help them without endangering anybody. Every life has equal value, I'm sure if it was you waiting for that medic you would be just as grateful for his patience and compassion.

In your example you are robbing others and you classify them as hostile..........

Sorry lionel but all your doing there is trying to give medics justification to ignore players when they are told "rule b. do not revive"
The scenario i speak of. Regardless of our robbing him. He pulls a gun out he becomes our hostile. When the medic was told rule b he should have left the area and not returned to revive as instructed. The fact the medic knew we cannot shoot him allowed him the opportunity to ignore us and waltz back and revive as my clan got back into an overwatch position.

Added: Either medics should follow the rules regarding rule b better or they can be killed when they decide to ignore it. As knowing you cannot be killed doesnt justify being told not to revive and doing it any way as you dont need to value your lives as you know its a ban to anyone who kills you.

 

[Kris!]

I can safely say I've only ever had 1 issue with medics combat reviving, during a bank robbery at the old bank, the medic was under the impression it was safe to revive players and that was only due to a police officer informing them so.

The rest of the time medics have done their job and more.

 

[Superhitmandan]

There are some medics who are exceptional at their jobs and follow direction when told @Kris! But in fairness there are just as many who do their job and even combat revive when told not to. Its a shame i dont keep videos going back more than a week otherwise i would have shown the scenario i speak of

 

[PrincessJake]

why is this thread even here... medics are having a hard enough time as it is to get RP etc... if someone is abusing the "You cant kill medics rule" get proof and post it.

I see no need to remove this rule at all. in my experiences some of the best RPers on the servers are medics i have never ever had a problem with one at all. 

 

[Superhitmandan]

why is this thread even here... medics are having a hard enough time as it is to get RP etc... if someone is abusing the "You cant kill medics rule" get proof and post it.

I see no need to remove this rule at all. in my experiences some of the best RPers on the servers are medics i have never ever had a problem with one at all.

Whether you dont see why this thread here or not it is a discusson topic that has as much right to be here as any other thread.

You may not have had any issues with medics ignoring their own rules but others have. Such as the scenario i mentioned. We are not reporting a medic directly this discussion is here talking about it as a whole.

 

[PrincessJake]

Whether you dont see why this thread here or not it is a discusson topic that has as much right to be here as any other thread.

You may not have had any issues with medics ignoring their own rules but others have. Such as the scenario i mentioned. We are not reporting a medic directly this discussion is here talking about it as a whole.

I understand that you are not reporting a medic.. but if they do not listen to you and carry on etc, like the scenario that you put fourth, that's fail RP is it not? and can be delt via a report if both sides medics and everyone else obey the rules then there is no problem.

This is why i don't see a need to change the rules. only my opinion. ♥

 

[Superhitmandan]

I understand that you are not reporting a medic.. but if they do not listen to you and carry on etc, like the scenario that you put fourth, that's fail RP is it not? and can be delt via a report if both sides medics and everyone else obey the rules then there is no problem.

This is why i don't see a need to change the rules. only my opinion. ♥

I fully understand where you are coming from but if you think about it. It is all well reporting them but that is after the fact and is not a resolve to the situation as it is happening

 

[PrincessJake]

I fully understand where you are coming from but if you think about it. It is all well reporting them but that is after the fact and is not a resolve to the situation as it is happening

I see and understand your point, but i can only speak from experience which has been all good with the medics.

If this is happening then medics should know better.

Maybe allow warning shots to the legs if they fail to comply ? - This will not fully stop the issue if it is happening but in a RP situation it should make the medic think twice about what they are doing.

 

[Superhitmandan]

Agreed. When they ignore its not a case of executing them as that is piss poor. But threatening them and yes maybe a bullet to the leg if they do not comply. Do it again then be killed.

I dont want it to be thought that the medics as a whole dont do a great job when they are on. Im not out to discredit them as a whole because ive had some wikid rp situations with the nhs.

although medics from what i have read jumped down ashes throat on this thread they should be willing to accept critisism and not all jump into a defensive attack at the thread

personally i agree with medics that better roleplay should be had when on sight as it doesnt happen enough. I do rp every time though as some medics are fantastic with their rp abilities.

This is simply discussing the issue with those medics who decide to ignore direction when told not to revive and leave for their own safety

 

[PrincessJake]

Agreed. When they ignore its not a case of executing them as that is piss poor. But threatening them and yes maybe a bullet to the leg if they do not comply. Do it again then be killed.

I dont want it to be thought that the medics as a whole dont do a great job when they are on. Im not out to discredit them as a whole because ive had some wikid rp situations with the nhs.

although medics from what i have read jumped down ashes throat on this thread they should be willing to accept critisism and not all jump into a defensive attack at the thread

personally i agree with medics that better roleplay should be had when on sight as it doesnt happen enough. I do rp every time though as some medics are fantastic with their rp abilities.

This is simply discussing the issue with those medics who decide to ignore direction when told not to revive and leave for their own safety

To be 100% honest i really see nothing wrong with what you have put forward... the medics still wont be killed on sight, even if they do not comply they get a warning then a bullet in the leg and then if they still do not comply they die... both sides win RP continues to flow and there is no need for mass ban reports.

It works for medics because if you guys are complying and RPing right then you wont be shot or die.

It works for the other party because if the medics are not complying they now have a way to deal with it in RP rather than doing OOC stuff such as ban reports and so on. 

 

[Daanish]

I do remember one time, I went to revive a guy who had been shot. An armed rebel comes up to me and says to not revive him. I try to roleplay it out with him, but he just keeps telling me to leave or be shot. In the end I start walking away. For some reason he thought I was going to the man to revive him. 1 second later there's a bullet in my head. 

It's ok though as another medic on the scene revives me . 

I agree though, medics should listen to other players but there needs to be a justified reason to not revive.

 

[Heatproofsean]

let's close this thread. 

basically you're saying that you have encountered medics whom have not performed to your expectation. But what group has? In fact, what player has? 100% of the time? 

Thank you for your feedback. In future, please contact myself in teamspeak to discuss such matter. And ensure you bring any evidence, names and times with you. Or it will severally diminish what we can do to resolve the situation. Such is the case here. 

Therefore I've requested this thread be locked. 

 

[Wilco]

Locked by request of the CMO of the NHS