- Location
- UK
Hello, I hope everyone is having a nice Christmas,
First of all, I am only writing this to stimulate conversation and because I love this community. Most people know I interact with all circles from police, G6, rangers, and whitelisted and unwhitelisted gangs. I think this allows me an unbiased position to suggest things as I have a huge base of people on all sides. I have spoken to many people to get their opinions on this list to finetune these suggestions for a more general consensus.
I know what I am writing is a behemoth amount of suggestions to go through so please take your time with it all.
I would like to reiterate that this is a forum of discussion and that I only want the best for the RPUK community as I think we all know there has been a steady decline in players and the quality of RP on the server. I have felt this has led to a significant rise in hackers and unwanted "baldies" to the server that ends up just trolling people.
It's a very crucial time for the server. It seems that these current issues are turning fresh faces away from the server and making existing long-standing members of the community bored.
A lot of people in different communities within the server are under the impression that the server is not going in the right direction. I feel their worries may be addressed with some kind of roadmap or planned releases.
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I will be linking individual poles for each suggestion and expressing your opinions in the individual sections regarding that specific topic.
Links for suggested scripts will be at the end of the post.
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Legal and Illegal Jobs
Taxi
I think that there needs to be jobs that don't discourage RP. What I mean by this is that with the current system, all legal jobs have no interaction with other players. This is due to people seeing it as just an easy come-up to call for a taxi and take him somewhere rob him of all his shit and leave it somewhere. This promotes an attitude to only serve the locals and ignore any dispatches that come through.
Now, I am not saying this shouldn't be a thing. There just needs to be a job that criminals can do so they don't target taxi drivers for essentially a free come-up. Secondly, if it's possible to involve the taxi centre is some sort of RP that can start installing bulletproof dividers and possibly a way to unlock just the back two doors. Combining these two things I believe would allow for people to be more naturally involved and introduced to our community without taking any aspects away that we enjoy.
So in summary: Interior upgrades and just rear unlockable doors
Jobs with Friends
Binmen, G6 (cash transport), Delivery Jobs, Construction jobs.
If anyone has spoken to me in or out of the city you know that I have been speaking about this for ages. I think this will help change the mindless grind mentality that is so and has been so prevalent in this community.
These sorts of jobs should offer bonuses for working part of a team and through reputation gain more benefits to different jobs routes and better pay.
So in summary: Jobs that promote rp with other people
People may think that I might just be seeing what's hot on other servers now but that isn't the case.
Restaurants
Buggershot would provide several great job opportunities but this would need a rework of the benefits that the current foods and drinks give to provide an incentive for foods to be bought at restaurants. I think a good balance to this would be that fresh food offers a larger hunger and thirst benefit however as a perishable item it only lasts for 3-4 hours, however, a pack of crisps or chocolate bars will last indefinitely until consumed but provide a small benefit.
An interesting mechanic would allow bars and restaurants a unique crafting experience where they physically create the items they sell in front of the customers they are serving.
Examples: Pint glass + beer tap + third eye interaction = Pint of beer
Burger Bun + Burger + lettuce + third eye interaction + Burger
For job examples: Chefs, servers, head chefs, floor managers operations managers etc.
So in summary: More organic, natural player run restaurants
Mechanic
I think this is one of the only jobs that is in a good position as it offers a skill improvement incentive and decent pay but I also feel this could benefit from a reputation system that offers better tow trucks for higher reputation.
Illegal Jobs
House robberies and G6 Transport robberies.
This is simple as it gives more avenues for crims to commit crimes and more police action. This is also part of the same script used in the G6 job so a 2 for 1.
As stated above this would steer people away from robbing taxi drivers and waiting for people outside the Tirenutz gym. This is always gonna be someone on a fresh character, if not a new person to the server and just ruins their experience immediately.
So in summary: Implementing more criminal activities and safeguarding newer players.
Container
(as of writing the system has changed)
Storage Containers should provide rent to the relevant gang if located inside a turf or the major gang of that area. In addition to the repossession of containers that rent has not been paid on.
For example:
If a container is not located inside a turf but in the city, the rent should go to the firm as the gang/power of that area.
If a container is not located inside a turf near Paleto Bay then the rent should go to the Lost Mc.
(As we have already) Personally, I expect containers will start to get sold off as they are no longer a permanent safe storage location. This will help combat the stockpiling of containers.
Economy Realism and Balancing
Houses
The housing situation to me is very unrealistic having some houses cost 3 times as much and offer less storage for example all the houses in grapeseed.
I believe houses should be valued on location and storage space. Currently, you can find houses with 7.5k storage and cost less than 100k in the city but houses that cost 390k and have 5k storage.
I think all current houses should be alone so it doesn't drastically affect someone's wealth but all unowned houses to be put into a new system. This new system should have prices valued at a higher price overall (money sink) and allow the owner to then list their house through a real estate agent rather than get scammed by selling it from the door for a huge loss.
So in summary: Change the whole housing market to be more realistic.
Realism
It already has been spoken about in another post but I think a simple decimal place change for everyone will bring a lot more opportunities to have higher-paying jobs and realism to the server.
I think this will also bring in line the ridiculous price you buy cars at which usually is twice as much as a house when houses should be a the more expensive commodity. I will bring this up later on why houses should be more expensive.
So in summary: A more realistic economy
Mayor
This has already been discussed but I believe is so important to the realism of this city as it brings a more public face to the government.
So please upvote this suggestion already:
This comment on said post is exactly the implementation we need.
Gangs & Drugs
Whitelisted Gangs
The top dogs of the city. Wtf is the point, as soon as you have become whitelisted there is nothing to work for. You instantly can call for cocaine from the island, craft all the guns, cut the cocaine and then stay safe while making all your shit.
There is a point though and that differentiates you from the random 2 man group wanting to take over the triad turf and get repeatedly smoked by The DON (not PDM Don) because you won't let him peddle his cocaine there.
I just think something is lacking and there is no progression for you to work towards something so people get bored and then end up continuously fighting for something to do.
Examples:
Safehouse improvements (armoured door for longer breach times, bulletproof windows, a slideable hatch on doors),
Bench levels (weapons/attachments can't be made because your bench is too low in level or cocaine takes longer to cut or you can cut more cocaine),
Gus Levels (quicker responses, more cocaine from drops, different drugs),
Unique Drugs (own subsection),
Gang missions (raid a police transport or an opposition gang warehouse/safehouses, prison breaks allowing you to speak to someone like Gus that could give you the option to break out someone could look like a G6 member. This could be balanced out by Gus asking for melee only)
The Firm and Lost Mc
The final chapter to your gang contact list. You need them for your special toys but I feel like they shouldn't hold all the keys to these special toys and some should be handed out to whitelisted gangs. So these chosen gangs can make them in-house.
The firm and lost have ultimate power in the city having their own set of rules to play by and I'm not saying they shouldn't but for example most people will know that the Lost MC and have Aztecas are fighting over who has the nicest collection of motorcycles but there is natural rp for the apostles to also show off their motorcycles and help the aztecas.
Without waffling on, the teaming rule needs to change. I understand people could gang up with their other powerful friends but that happens already by their second character joining and helping them anyway. COUGH Implement the second character rule COUGH.
This naturally balances out through RP by people getting sick of being oppressed and forming their alliances to take back some control. A good example could have been when Aztecs were controlling the island and robbing any living sole who stepped foot on it.
However, teaming against the cops should be a rule so they can operate as normal. As in real life OCGs don't care about helping some other group but just like to hear about it later.
So in summary:
The teaming rule should be changed.
The lost and firm should hand over the supply of certain "toys" to whitelisted gangs.
Unique drugs
A unique drug recipe that can be crafted at their drug bench. Which can be sold on the streets for a higher price than the standard variant.
For example:
Opium - Triads
Rohypnol - Occult* (should be whitelisted)
Heroine - Aztecas
Marijuana - Grove
Cocaine - Vagos
Crack - Cutlass
Spice - Ballas
Ketamine - Alliance
This is another reason to be in a whitelisted gang and have a practical purpose. These recipes could then be stolen by other whitelisted gangs so they can also make these unique drugs would provide some direction to gang wars and additional RP avenues.
In addition to this, I know with the upcoming crim update all drugs need to be viable as currently cocaine is the only thing that is made just because of how easy it is to make and how high the price of selling cocaine.
Business & POPup Gangs
Gangs
What I mean by this is that you allow people to convert their houses into a makeshift gang safehouse. There should be limitations to what can be bought for these safehouses for example there should be a black market trader that allows you to sell illegal items and purchase lower quality tables that are on offer in the public spaces and to whitelisted gangs.
For example, only being able to cut 3-5 cocaine at a time, it takes twice as long to craft or you can only craft ceramic pistols or they degrade faster. To balance this you could have their house repossessed due to breach of tenancy and the same could apply to a cannabis grow is found.
Also, this gives CID more investigation avenues instead of sitting on containers.
Business
This is sort of the same principle as the last. It would be great to allow new businesses to operate in rentable locations a location for any business to set up. This can then be controlled by staff or another reliable community member by creating a tenancy company.
This would then allow the emergence of more unique businesses and bring some life and variety to the standard petrol station owner. This then should promote of culture of competition as the unique business has a monopoly on its market.
For example, Bosh Trucks and Noble Logistics need some competition as it is something I have proposed to COC and many others but got no traction.
Guns
I do understand why durability was added to limit the huge surplus of firearms stored and produced but I do believe this is a sufficient measure to combat this issue as now legacy pistols are coming to the end of their usability.
I don't particularly like the current situation. This creates another insurmountable hurdle for new players. I believe a suitable option could be splitting these high-tier areas between whitelisted gangs.
For example:
A distillery, a gun bench, an ammo press, tailoring bench.
In line with this, I do think Police equipment should last longer to stop this vending machine procedure to rob a fed for your daily gun and just before it breaks the next day, rob another fed for the next day's gun.
For example:
A Police glock for a week instead of 24 hours.
A taser should last 2 weeks instead of 4 hours.
A Police rifle should last 72 hours due to being a very powerful gun.
Misc
Hemp Wadding
The recipe needs to change to make Hemp Wadding. Essentially everyone is going around wearing weed. Maybe some biproduct of sativa or something that can ordered in.
Fake Plates
Would be a great way to evade the police but comes with the consequence of a huge fine/ scrapping or a long impound time. This could also be given to a whitelisted gang like Cutlass/Ballas and be great for RP situations.
Vin Scratch/Chop shop
As per the previous suggestion Fake plates, it would be nice to own vehicles that didn't come back to anybody. It is a sure way to find someone's information by running their plates and then if fake plates became a feature running their vin it would be a nice feature if you could remove that vin. This could be balanced by having the vin removed means insta scrapping of the vehicle.
Rangers
They need some love, at the moment the job constitutes being a glorified hunter unless you stumble on a scene or a kind NHS or police call you for some help.
It would be great to have similar local jobs like the fireman for the rangers to rescue a local from a cougar or from falling off a cliff.
A similar system to the hunting license could be a fishing license to bring other avenues of RP and sources of income for the rangers.
Casino/clothing tokens
Can this be fixed? This would be a nice feature for people to be wearing unique clothing items.
Maybe the casino token allows you to gain access to a secret clothing store that you have to trade a token in for.
Could we add a roulette wheel to the casino?
Tutorial and Wiki update
The Tutorial needs a freshen-up with some info about how to use the phone and the favourites on the phone app. This will help with the OOC spam for newer players.
The Wiki needs an update as it hasn't been updated since 14th September 2022.
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Library of scripts:
https://tkiljoy-developments.tebex.io/category/qbcore
Library of scripts:
https://www.jaksam-scripts.com/category/1712794
The house Robbery looks particularly good.
Library of scripts:
https://17movement.net/
There is personally about 5/6 Jobs that would be perfect for our community.
https://store.17movement.net/package/5311835
TREASURE HUNTER JOB
https://store.17movement.net/package/5207678
GARBAGE COLLECTOR
https://store.17movement.net/package/5440400
GRUPPE SECHS SYSTEM
https://store.17movement.net/package/5377577
BUILDER JOB
https://store.17movement.net/package/5352125
Window Cleaner
https://store.17movement.net/package/5468378
Script Bundle
Fake Plate:
https://github.com/Brazzers-Development/brazzers-fakeplates
Vin scratching laptop:
https://github.com/Ejiy/jl-laptop#will-move-to-renewed-laptop-when-theyre-done
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Also ps admins sorry for the spam
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First of all, I am only writing this to stimulate conversation and because I love this community. Most people know I interact with all circles from police, G6, rangers, and whitelisted and unwhitelisted gangs. I think this allows me an unbiased position to suggest things as I have a huge base of people on all sides. I have spoken to many people to get their opinions on this list to finetune these suggestions for a more general consensus.
I know what I am writing is a behemoth amount of suggestions to go through so please take your time with it all.
I would like to reiterate that this is a forum of discussion and that I only want the best for the RPUK community as I think we all know there has been a steady decline in players and the quality of RP on the server. I have felt this has led to a significant rise in hackers and unwanted "baldies" to the server that ends up just trolling people.
It's a very crucial time for the server. It seems that these current issues are turning fresh faces away from the server and making existing long-standing members of the community bored.
A lot of people in different communities within the server are under the impression that the server is not going in the right direction. I feel their worries may be addressed with some kind of roadmap or planned releases.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I will be linking individual poles for each suggestion and expressing your opinions in the individual sections regarding that specific topic.
Links for suggested scripts will be at the end of the post.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Legal and Illegal Jobs
Taxi
I think that there needs to be jobs that don't discourage RP. What I mean by this is that with the current system, all legal jobs have no interaction with other players. This is due to people seeing it as just an easy come-up to call for a taxi and take him somewhere rob him of all his shit and leave it somewhere. This promotes an attitude to only serve the locals and ignore any dispatches that come through.
Now, I am not saying this shouldn't be a thing. There just needs to be a job that criminals can do so they don't target taxi drivers for essentially a free come-up. Secondly, if it's possible to involve the taxi centre is some sort of RP that can start installing bulletproof dividers and possibly a way to unlock just the back two doors. Combining these two things I believe would allow for people to be more naturally involved and introduced to our community without taking any aspects away that we enjoy.
So in summary: Interior upgrades and just rear unlockable doors
Jobs with Friends
Binmen, G6 (cash transport), Delivery Jobs, Construction jobs.
If anyone has spoken to me in or out of the city you know that I have been speaking about this for ages. I think this will help change the mindless grind mentality that is so and has been so prevalent in this community.
These sorts of jobs should offer bonuses for working part of a team and through reputation gain more benefits to different jobs routes and better pay.
So in summary: Jobs that promote rp with other people
People may think that I might just be seeing what's hot on other servers now but that isn't the case.
Restaurants
Buggershot would provide several great job opportunities but this would need a rework of the benefits that the current foods and drinks give to provide an incentive for foods to be bought at restaurants. I think a good balance to this would be that fresh food offers a larger hunger and thirst benefit however as a perishable item it only lasts for 3-4 hours, however, a pack of crisps or chocolate bars will last indefinitely until consumed but provide a small benefit.
An interesting mechanic would allow bars and restaurants a unique crafting experience where they physically create the items they sell in front of the customers they are serving.
Examples: Pint glass + beer tap + third eye interaction = Pint of beer
Burger Bun + Burger + lettuce + third eye interaction + Burger
For job examples: Chefs, servers, head chefs, floor managers operations managers etc.
So in summary: More organic, natural player run restaurants
Mechanic
I think this is one of the only jobs that is in a good position as it offers a skill improvement incentive and decent pay but I also feel this could benefit from a reputation system that offers better tow trucks for higher reputation.
Illegal Jobs
House robberies and G6 Transport robberies.
This is simple as it gives more avenues for crims to commit crimes and more police action. This is also part of the same script used in the G6 job so a 2 for 1.
As stated above this would steer people away from robbing taxi drivers and waiting for people outside the Tirenutz gym. This is always gonna be someone on a fresh character, if not a new person to the server and just ruins their experience immediately.
So in summary: Implementing more criminal activities and safeguarding newer players.
Container
(as of writing the system has changed)
Storage Containers should provide rent to the relevant gang if located inside a turf or the major gang of that area. In addition to the repossession of containers that rent has not been paid on.
For example:
If a container is not located inside a turf but in the city, the rent should go to the firm as the gang/power of that area.
If a container is not located inside a turf near Paleto Bay then the rent should go to the Lost Mc.
(As we have already) Personally, I expect containers will start to get sold off as they are no longer a permanent safe storage location. This will help combat the stockpiling of containers.
Economy Realism and Balancing
Houses
The housing situation to me is very unrealistic having some houses cost 3 times as much and offer less storage for example all the houses in grapeseed.
I believe houses should be valued on location and storage space. Currently, you can find houses with 7.5k storage and cost less than 100k in the city but houses that cost 390k and have 5k storage.
I think all current houses should be alone so it doesn't drastically affect someone's wealth but all unowned houses to be put into a new system. This new system should have prices valued at a higher price overall (money sink) and allow the owner to then list their house through a real estate agent rather than get scammed by selling it from the door for a huge loss.
So in summary: Change the whole housing market to be more realistic.
Realism
It already has been spoken about in another post but I think a simple decimal place change for everyone will bring a lot more opportunities to have higher-paying jobs and realism to the server.
I think this will also bring in line the ridiculous price you buy cars at which usually is twice as much as a house when houses should be a the more expensive commodity. I will bring this up later on why houses should be more expensive.
So in summary: A more realistic economy
Mayor
This has already been discussed but I believe is so important to the realism of this city as it brings a more public face to the government.
So please upvote this suggestion already:
This comment on said post is exactly the implementation we need.
Gangs & Drugs
Whitelisted Gangs
The top dogs of the city. Wtf is the point, as soon as you have become whitelisted there is nothing to work for. You instantly can call for cocaine from the island, craft all the guns, cut the cocaine and then stay safe while making all your shit.
There is a point though and that differentiates you from the random 2 man group wanting to take over the triad turf and get repeatedly smoked by The DON (not PDM Don) because you won't let him peddle his cocaine there.
I just think something is lacking and there is no progression for you to work towards something so people get bored and then end up continuously fighting for something to do.
Examples:
Safehouse improvements (armoured door for longer breach times, bulletproof windows, a slideable hatch on doors),
Bench levels (weapons/attachments can't be made because your bench is too low in level or cocaine takes longer to cut or you can cut more cocaine),
Gus Levels (quicker responses, more cocaine from drops, different drugs),
Unique Drugs (own subsection),
Gang missions (raid a police transport or an opposition gang warehouse/safehouses, prison breaks allowing you to speak to someone like Gus that could give you the option to break out someone could look like a G6 member. This could be balanced out by Gus asking for melee only)
The Firm and Lost Mc
The final chapter to your gang contact list. You need them for your special toys but I feel like they shouldn't hold all the keys to these special toys and some should be handed out to whitelisted gangs. So these chosen gangs can make them in-house.
The firm and lost have ultimate power in the city having their own set of rules to play by and I'm not saying they shouldn't but for example most people will know that the Lost MC and have Aztecas are fighting over who has the nicest collection of motorcycles but there is natural rp for the apostles to also show off their motorcycles and help the aztecas.
Without waffling on, the teaming rule needs to change. I understand people could gang up with their other powerful friends but that happens already by their second character joining and helping them anyway. COUGH Implement the second character rule COUGH.
This naturally balances out through RP by people getting sick of being oppressed and forming their alliances to take back some control. A good example could have been when Aztecs were controlling the island and robbing any living sole who stepped foot on it.
However, teaming against the cops should be a rule so they can operate as normal. As in real life OCGs don't care about helping some other group but just like to hear about it later.
So in summary:
The teaming rule should be changed.
The lost and firm should hand over the supply of certain "toys" to whitelisted gangs.
Unique drugs
A unique drug recipe that can be crafted at their drug bench. Which can be sold on the streets for a higher price than the standard variant.
For example:
Opium - Triads
Rohypnol - Occult* (should be whitelisted)
Heroine - Aztecas
Marijuana - Grove
Cocaine - Vagos
Crack - Cutlass
Spice - Ballas
Ketamine - Alliance
This is another reason to be in a whitelisted gang and have a practical purpose. These recipes could then be stolen by other whitelisted gangs so they can also make these unique drugs would provide some direction to gang wars and additional RP avenues.
In addition to this, I know with the upcoming crim update all drugs need to be viable as currently cocaine is the only thing that is made just because of how easy it is to make and how high the price of selling cocaine.
Business & POPup Gangs
Gangs
What I mean by this is that you allow people to convert their houses into a makeshift gang safehouse. There should be limitations to what can be bought for these safehouses for example there should be a black market trader that allows you to sell illegal items and purchase lower quality tables that are on offer in the public spaces and to whitelisted gangs.
For example, only being able to cut 3-5 cocaine at a time, it takes twice as long to craft or you can only craft ceramic pistols or they degrade faster. To balance this you could have their house repossessed due to breach of tenancy and the same could apply to a cannabis grow is found.
Also, this gives CID more investigation avenues instead of sitting on containers.
Business
This is sort of the same principle as the last. It would be great to allow new businesses to operate in rentable locations a location for any business to set up. This can then be controlled by staff or another reliable community member by creating a tenancy company.
This would then allow the emergence of more unique businesses and bring some life and variety to the standard petrol station owner. This then should promote of culture of competition as the unique business has a monopoly on its market.
For example, Bosh Trucks and Noble Logistics need some competition as it is something I have proposed to COC and many others but got no traction.
Guns
I do understand why durability was added to limit the huge surplus of firearms stored and produced but I do believe this is a sufficient measure to combat this issue as now legacy pistols are coming to the end of their usability.
I don't particularly like the current situation. This creates another insurmountable hurdle for new players. I believe a suitable option could be splitting these high-tier areas between whitelisted gangs.
For example:
A distillery, a gun bench, an ammo press, tailoring bench.
In line with this, I do think Police equipment should last longer to stop this vending machine procedure to rob a fed for your daily gun and just before it breaks the next day, rob another fed for the next day's gun.
For example:
A Police glock for a week instead of 24 hours.
A taser should last 2 weeks instead of 4 hours.
A Police rifle should last 72 hours due to being a very powerful gun.
Misc
Hemp Wadding
The recipe needs to change to make Hemp Wadding. Essentially everyone is going around wearing weed. Maybe some biproduct of sativa or something that can ordered in.
Fake Plates
Would be a great way to evade the police but comes with the consequence of a huge fine/ scrapping or a long impound time. This could also be given to a whitelisted gang like Cutlass/Ballas and be great for RP situations.
Vin Scratch/Chop shop
As per the previous suggestion Fake plates, it would be nice to own vehicles that didn't come back to anybody. It is a sure way to find someone's information by running their plates and then if fake plates became a feature running their vin it would be a nice feature if you could remove that vin. This could be balanced by having the vin removed means insta scrapping of the vehicle.
Rangers
They need some love, at the moment the job constitutes being a glorified hunter unless you stumble on a scene or a kind NHS or police call you for some help.
It would be great to have similar local jobs like the fireman for the rangers to rescue a local from a cougar or from falling off a cliff.
A similar system to the hunting license could be a fishing license to bring other avenues of RP and sources of income for the rangers.
Casino/clothing tokens
Can this be fixed? This would be a nice feature for people to be wearing unique clothing items.
Maybe the casino token allows you to gain access to a secret clothing store that you have to trade a token in for.
Could we add a roulette wheel to the casino?
Tutorial and Wiki update
The Tutorial needs a freshen-up with some info about how to use the phone and the favourites on the phone app. This will help with the OOC spam for newer players.
The Wiki needs an update as it hasn't been updated since 14th September 2022.
----------------------------------------------------
Library of scripts:
https://tkiljoy-developments.tebex.io/category/qbcore
Library of scripts:
https://www.jaksam-scripts.com/category/1712794
The house Robbery looks particularly good.
Library of scripts:
https://17movement.net/
There is personally about 5/6 Jobs that would be perfect for our community.
https://store.17movement.net/package/5311835
TREASURE HUNTER JOB
https://store.17movement.net/package/5207678
GARBAGE COLLECTOR
https://store.17movement.net/package/5440400
GRUPPE SECHS SYSTEM
https://store.17movement.net/package/5377577
BUILDER JOB
https://store.17movement.net/package/5352125
Window Cleaner
https://store.17movement.net/package/5468378
Script Bundle
Fake Plate:
https://github.com/Brazzers-Development/brazzers-fakeplates
Vin scratching laptop:
https://github.com/Ejiy/jl-laptop#will-move-to-renewed-laptop-when-theyre-done
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Also ps admins sorry for the spam
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