Report a player - Unknown Session ID - GTA RP

[Gord]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Moe Sokol
Reported Players: Unknown Session ID
Date: Oct 12, 2024
Time: 23:55
What best describes this incident: (G1.2) Random Death Match (RDM)
Please (in detail) describe the incident: I had gotten out of pillbox after being hit by a car and as we were driving back to MRPS officers began to panic they were being shot at Vagos Turf. I could not enter the situation due to G4.5 so I decided to hop out and get on a roof near Grove Street and the driver of my car continued on towards the scene as he was able to. I decided to look during the duration of the gunfight through a camera and try and coordinate a response with units that were able to attend as there was a lack of units able to respond immediately.

After other units arrived and it was reported the suspect was down and around 3-4 minutes had passed with no shooting. An officer on scene stated they were starting medical triage, so I decided to come down and assist with that. The other officer as seen in the video was dealing with the downed suspect and I stayed behind with him and began some auxiliary tasks like impounding the vehicles involved. A vehicle with three individuals pulls up and one slightly talks to us but only asks what was going on and that was it. I turned my back to him and as I did, I saw he Radio'd something and then he proceeded to shoot me in the back of the head.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/iRN2q3CjruGcUj5on?invite=cr-MSw3N0MsMTk4MzM4MzQ0LA

 

[PillowPlower]

this was me (etny cooper)

i didnt notice any OOC messages during or after the situation are you willing too talk in a liason to discuss the missing context.

 

[Gord]

I'm unsure what missing context you could provide as to why you executed me as there was zero roleplay during the course of this interaction. If you could, please provide the context here as I don't know what a QE could provide me since the issue was a complete lack of roleplay.

 

[PillowPlower]

this was me (etny cooper) say i didnt notice any OOC messages during or after the situation are you willing too talk in a liason to discuss the missing context.

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Moe Sokol
Reported Players: Unknown Session ID
Date: Oct 12, 2024
Time: 23:55
What best describes this incident: (G1.2) Random Death Match (RDM)
Please (in detail) describe the incident: I had gotten out of pillbox after being hit by a car and as we were driving back to MRPS officers began to panic they were being shot at Vagos Turf. I could not enter the situation due to G4.5 so I decided to hop out and get on a roof near Grove Street and the driver of my car continued on towards the scene as he was able to. I decided to look during the duration of the gunfight through a camera and try and coordinate a response with units that were able to attend as there was a lack of units able to respond immediately.

After other units arrived and it was reported the suspect was down and around 3-4 minutes had passed with no shooting. An officer on scene stated they were starting medical triage, so I decided to come down and assist with that. The other officer as seen in the video was dealing with the downed suspect and I stayed behind with him and began some auxiliary tasks like impounding the vehicles involved. A vehicle with three individuals pulls up and one slightly talks to us but only asks what was going on and that was it. I turned my back to him and as I did, I saw he Radio'd something and then he proceeded to shoot me in the back of the head.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/iRN2q3CjruGcUj5on?invite=cr-MSw3N0MsMTk4MzM4MzQ0LA

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Moe Sokol
Reported Players: Unknown Session ID
Date: Oct 12, 2024
Time: 23:55
What best describes this incident: (G1.2) Random Death Match (RDM)
Please (in detail) describe the incident: I had gotten out of pillbox after being hit by a car and as we were driving back to MRPS officers began to panic they were being shot at Vagos Turf. I could not enter the situation due to G4.5 so I decided to hop out and get on a roof near Grove Street and the driver of my car continued on towards the scene as he was able to. I decided to look during the duration of the gunfight through a camera and try and coordinate a response with units that were able to attend as there was a lack of units able to respond immediately.

After other units arrived and it was reported the suspect was down and around 3-4 minutes had passed with no shooting. An officer on scene stated they were starting medical triage, so I decided to come down and assist with that. The other officer as seen in the video was dealing with the downed suspect and I stayed behind with him and began some auxiliary tasks like impounding the vehicles involved. A vehicle with three individuals pulls up and one slightly talks to us but only asks what was going on and that was it. I turned my back to him and as I did, I saw he Radio'd something and then he proceeded to shoot me in the back of the head.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/iRN2q3CjruGcUj5on?invite=cr-MSw3N0MsMTk4MzM4MzQ0LA

Hello @Gordon,

A liason would of been easier to explain but as you insist this be dealt with here so I will explain here.

So as you was aware police tried to make a stop on a **unknown local sultan** with three individuals inside, they failed to stop & fled towards their turf for support from members of their group me being one of them, there was also one or two other vagos members present on turf when the sultan came to a stop on vagos turf where a **shoot-out** occurred.

This resulted in most the officers to be incapacitated & also 2 vagos, when the fight had come near to the end I managed to get one of the downed members of my gang in a car and too safety, once he was safe I returned to vagos turf too check for my other fellow member that wasn't responding on radio anymore.

This is where me & 2 others pulled up & seen our downed member **downed & being arrested** & this is when the second shooting happened.

To say this was RDM is not true there was nothing random about this, you had clear comms of the whole fight & as you said you even gave assistance from afar.
Your fellow officer even said over radio "This was one of them" & "I don't like these cars pulling up".

The long & short of it was you joined a active situation thinking it was not still active, was met with the same people from the fight which first broke out.

I'm sorry to mention also but I couldn't help notice when met with 3 different firearms, one officer already being shot in the head that your fellow officer actually stopped escorting my fellow downed member, drawn for his weapon & tried to shoot anything he could, then proceeded to sceam & shout instead of roleplaying his Injuries.
I'm also not sure if being that close to a active gunfight after coming from pillbox was too purposely place your self in a combat situation or you was unaware of how close you was.

I'm still open to a liaison if you would like.

 

[Gord]

To say this was RDM is not true there was nothing random about this, you had clear comms of the whole fight & as you said you even gave assistance from afar.

There was nothing random about the fight, correct. I'm not reporting you for the fight as I was not a part of the fighting. I coordinated with other units on radio to come assist the officers from the roof I was on, however I provided no direct assistance because of the distance I was to the officers.

Your fellow officer even said over radio "This was one of them" & "I don't like these cars pulling up".

The only thing he say's at 04:34 is "I don't like these cars fucking around", nothing in that clip indicates he knew, or I knew who you were. There had been absolutely no interaction with anyone in a hostile manner for over 10 minutes at this point.

The long & short of it was you joined a active situation thinking it was not still active, was met with the same people from the fight which first broke out.

As stated above, how was it active? Nothing had occurred in quite some time.

I'm sorry to mention also but I couldn't help notice when met with 3 different firearms, one officer already being shot in the head that your fellow officer actually stopped escorting my fellow downed member, drawn for his weapon & tried to shoot anything he could, then proceeded to sceam & shout instead of roleplaying his Injuries.

You execute me with no roleplay and expect the other officer to just go "Welp, time to die"?

I'm also not sure if being that close to a active gunfight after coming from pillbox was too purposely place your self in a combat situation or you was unaware of how close you was.

The blue dot was my actual location on the rooftop, from that distance all I could see was a parked police car. I couldn't see officers or suspects even with the camera. Insinuating I was attempting to put myself in a fight would imply I was standing across the street.

 

[Paru]

I'm sorry to mention also but I couldn't help notice when met with 3 different firearms, one officer already being shot in the head that your fellow officer actually stopped escorting my fellow downed member, drawn for his weapon & tried to shoot anything he could, then proceeded to sceam & shout instead of roleplaying his Injuries.
I'm also not sure if being that close to a active gunfight after coming from pillbox was too purposely place your self in a combat situation or you was unaware of how close you was.

I'm still open to a liaison if you would like.

I see I've been mentioned here (as the other officer) my weapon was already drawn as is the standard for situations where we are responding to gunshots, in regards to your prior shootout, none of you are "in colours" whatsoever and I was in fact Roleplaying my injuries as I always do, in a groaned voice after we'd been shot my character said and I quote "I hope you bleedout and die" - from an IC perspective this was said with an intense grunt and groan to the voice as is expected for RPing injuries.

In regards to the claim Gord's presented, I do feel as though it is valid, there's 2 of us and three of you, we were "outnumbered" and an abundance of alternative options were open and available to yourselves, but instead myself and Gord were shot with only the words "what the bloody hell is going on" being said to us, I feel as though this of incredibly poor standards for a group trying to get a gang up and running again, regardless of the report outcome, please try to do better in future.

I know some situations call for shooting to occur and that's fine, as long as there's ample roleplay to back it up prior to and post, instead of shooting two cops with but 7 words said amongst the 3 of you.

Any further questions, I'm happy to respond but I believe Gord's got it covered

 

[Scott]

Good afternoon all,

The alleged rule break here is RDM (G1.2). For an attack to be RDM, it must be either A. random, B. No high-quality roleplay took place before the attack or C. both. This situation isn't random; the association of the shooters and the downed suspect is clear, albeit after the situation, and the reporter has acknowledged this. However, did high-quality roleplay take place before the shooting?

There was an argument that the situation was "active", which I believe meant the gunfight was still active; it wasn't. That much is clear. It had ended, and the suspects had run or been shot. This doesn't mean no further roleplay can occur; assuming compliance with server rules, it's perfectly fine to come back and try to '3him^' (free him up). In this instance, you were sighted driving a black 'local' sultan, a dead giveaway of suspicion, and all synchronously got out of the vehicle. Then, 15 seconds later, after saying, "What in the bloody hell is going on?" you end up shooting both the officers.

No high-quality roleplay took place before the shooting, 15 seconds between initial 'contact' and shooting, with absolutely nothing in between that gap—blatant RDM. You certainly peaked their attention, but that doesn't excuse a KOS approach to roleplay. Also, the argument of the gunfight was still active; if this was the case, why even turn up and say anything? You'd just shoot them from afar, no? Doesn't make sense to me.

It was a disappointing watch from a whitelisted gang member; I expected better.

Finally, @PillowPlower: if you're going to accuse the other party involved in the report of rule breaks, please provide evidence; otherwise, it's purely conjecture, and I cannot act solely on word of mouth.

Action Taken - Report Approved

Char ID: 71515
Rulebreak(s): G1.2
Action: 1 Day Ban