Report a player - UNKN Ballas (IDs i got are from OOC: 44, 48, 16, 31, 24) - GTA RP

[kiran]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Kiran Coulter
Reported Players: UNKN Ballas (IDs i got are from OOC: 44, 48, 16, 31, 24)
Date: Apr 1, 2025
Time: 14:35
What best describes this incident: G2.12 - Poor RP
Please (in detail) describe the incident: 2 Police officers saw Ballas at the cocaine processor & called for assistance. At this point ALL online police started making way. Upon arriving we saw that Ballas had guns aimed and i went around the corner seeing them aiming guns at police then open firing (later found out the probie panic'd while held at gunpoint)

Police started taking shots so we returned fire, running people over. At this point it is what it is - there is a gunfight. The issue arrises when only 2 police had any words said to them yet EVERYONE gets dumped. This is shocking RP - i got from the person in our car "yeah i talk." (in regards to having a mic)
We are looking at the dumping part being the poor RP from a whitelisted gang especially given at least from my side i have had no RP in the entire interaction and then i am dumped.

We spoke in QE to someone who was involved in the shooting but not the dumping. I didnt want to wait any longer since they had no ongoing RP situation given all the cops were dealt with the same as above and we had waiting ~25 minutes. Given how poor the RP is with Ballas lately and how poor the RP was in this situation i feel a report is needed so at the absolute minimum it can be on record for staff.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: Had to be removed however, staff still have access to the videos


Evidence may overlap slightly as i didnt want any part to be missing out

 

[Dwayne Spike]

your reporting for poor rp yet your sitting there not acting injuries and giggling amongst yourselves.

 

[kiran]

your reporting for poor rp yet your sitting there not acting injuries and giggling amongst yourselves.

sorry for having a laugh w/out pressing the PTT????

but again would be lovely to have been given an opportunity to RP our injuries w/ a whitelisted gang @Dwayne Spike

 

[Dwayne Spike]

without pressing the PTT?! you might wanna rewatch your vid pal. Not to mention this started over someone using the panic button when given clear demands not to. Shame wish we could have had a fun situation but your side has decided not to go that route. Shame from a Faction.

 

[Billy Joe]

Hi all,

I am the Balla who took the first shot (31).

I would like to start with the poor rp accusation. In what world does it make sense in RP to keep police officers alive after we have shot them? Ballas has had a lot of problems with the police recently and the last thing we need is to add more reasons for the police to come down on us hard with warrants/raids etc.

My plan was to stall for time whilst waiting for backup to arrive as I had thrown a panic gps into our gc so that we could hands, zip tie and take the two officers away to try and threaten them to stay away from the drug bunch location (knowing full well we could never stop them) and possibly have some fun with them to provide some better roleplay.

As you can see in my clip the probie decided to nvl and panicked whilst having three guns pointed at him, not only did I notice the panic I also seen two different officers in the distance so at this point I felt we had been backed into a corner and have no other option then to fight our way out as we have drugs and guns on us so there is no chance of getting out of this without going to jail and as a gangster we will make sure we do everything we can to make sure that doesn't happen.

In regards to some of the officers not getting "any words" said to them you are entering an active gunfight situation which you knew about as it was called on your radio. We had done our talking with the two officers from the beginning of the situation which resulted in a gunfight after that we don't have time to stop for a chat?

Unfortunately for how long you waited in QE for us, this was due to one officer in the coke room not letting us pickup their body and choosing not to re spawn and wait out the timer which we have no problem with but meant we had to stay at the location for a long time as we wanted to ensure no officers made it out alive to prevent as mentioned before more issues for Ballas. Therefore we had to stay on guard as we didn't know if there was more officers around who may see and react to the panic late. Once the officer seen the light and we got away from the situation we did message in ooc asking for the QE but only one officer was in there who said it was too late we had already been reported.

I just want to finish off by saying you're accusing us of poor RP but you are not acting your injuries, laughing amongst yourselves downed, clearly not taking the situation very serious and throwing wild accusations about the lost in ballas saying we can do what we want which I can assure you is not the case?

I personally think this report has gone up not because of the poor RP but more because of the win mentality and loosing the fight. I think from every situation there is always room for self assessment and things that could have been done better but I just think you need to look in the mirror before going straight onto the forums.

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[kiran]

I personally think this report has gone up not because of the poor RP but more because of the win mentality and loosing the fight. I think from every situation there is always room for self assessment and things that could have been done better but I just think you need to look in the mirror before going straight onto the forums.

honest to god i dont mind about the fight and i know someone mentioned the panic at gunpoint leading to this - i agree thats not good and hence why the fight is fair enough. You guys ended up with way more numbers than we realised and won - was a fun shootout tbh given the mistake from whoever on our end

what we are saying though is only the cops at gunpoint got any RP everyone else was dumped. You could have given some RP while we were downed etc then continued with what your wanting to do but we still got 0 RP

this thing about the laughing. Im sorry what? part
1) i personally was shot 2 times before going down. Im not entirely sure if they were headshots or not but given that the 1st wasnt insta kill i took it that it wasnt and continued to talk so that some RP could come from it.
2) The oppurtunity to RP any injury is basically taken from us when you pile us into a car and dump us all without a word


im not entirely sure what the Lost thing is about - that hasnt come from me and tbh doesnt play much of a thing in terms of this (as in if its true or not doesnt really change anything so not looking to explore it anyways)


edit: to clarify - the poor RP standard im talking about is after the shooting when you dump everyone

the shooting is what it is

 

[Ben Clark]

edit: to clarify - the poor RP standard im talking about is after the shooting when you dump everyone

im the other person in who was using the coke bench. So you mention that this report is about poor quality RP about dumping people but yet you are reporting everyone in the situation. I'm ID 44. I was not apart of the dumping after the shoot out i moved away from the situation as i had no bandages as i was bleeding but yet you put my ID in the report? Pretty sure others have moved away from the situation after the shoot out. Looks like you are guessing who was dumping by getting the ID's from OOC chat.

Given how poor the RP is with Ballas lately and how poor the RP was in this situation i feel a report is needed so at the absolute minimum it can be on record for staff.

Theres 25 members in ballas and you are labeling the whole gang as poor RP? Next time when i have poor RP from the police shall I blame the whole faction including your self?

 

[O4rZ]

I was the officer on the motorbike, and I would just like to show my POV of this situation
MY POV - https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/k0kn8MUOmPZegRRqQ?invite=cr-MSxoNWYsMjExMjQwOTcy

Not the first time this has happened with Ballas either it's always Kill, zero interactions then dump.

As an officer I attended a panic from another officer (it's my job to do so) only to show up, get shot off a bike instantly be left there for 5-7 minutes, then thrown in a car and dumped in water.

It comes across to me that it's an easy way out of any Roleplay consequences against our characters for the actions against police.

Zero interest for any Roleplay, and the dumping to avoid any extended Roleplay.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, as a whitelisted group the quality of Roleplay should be up there, Whitelisted groups/factions should set the bar EXTREMELY high for Roleplay in my opinion, the lack of roleplay from ballas and the dumping stuff recently has been excruciatingly poor.

 

[Martt]

Hi, I’m ID 16.

Not sure why I’m being reported as I never dumped. I in fact had some decent medical rp with one of the officers that unfortunately passed. It would help if you gathered the correct relevant people’s IDs regarding the situation, instead of just throwing up a quick report straight after the situation. Not to also mention you called people QE to talk but never actually spoke to anyone. There was still a sit happening at the time, why couldn’t you just wait for us to be ready and then ballas could confirm when they are done and ready? A quote from one of the officers that actually waited in QE was ‘Kiran can’t be arsed to QE he has waited too long, he just wants report it’. I think this kind of attitude towards getting a better understanding of the whole situation is appalling.

I’m not going to touch on anything else as it’s been pretty much covered already.

If staff want any videos/evidence of anything let me know and I’ll see what I can do

Thanks
Mart x

 

[O4rZ]

Hi, I’m ID 16.

Not sure why I’m being reported as I never dumped. I in fact had some decent medical rp with one of the officers that unfortunately passed. It would help if you gathered the correct relevant people’s IDs regarding the situation, instead of just throwing up a quick report straight after the situation. Not to also mention you called people QE to talk but never actually spoke to anyone. There was still a sit happening at the time, why couldn’t you just wait for us to be ready and then ballas could confirm when they are done and ready? A quote from one of the officers that actually waited in QE was ‘Kiran can’t be arsed to QE he has waited too long, he just wants report it’. I think this kind of attitude towards getting a better understanding of the whole situation is appalling.

I’m not going to touch on anything else as it’s been pretty much covered already.

If staff want any videos/evidence of anything let me know and I’ll see what I can do

Thanks
Mart x

To be fair I had to leave as i had to pick my daughter up from school, at that point we were in there for at least 25 minutes, Kiran stayed in there after i left so god knows how much longer he waited

 

[Ben Clark]

It comes across to me that it's an easy way out of any Roleplay consequences against our characters for the actions against police.

Dont know what you expect. Use come to a location of us making drugs. Do you expect us to drop you off at pillbox then recover and wack a warrent up or request a raid. Use got dumped because use turned up to the wrong place at the wrong time and found us making drugs yes use did get dumped. We dont want to get raided. We dont want over powerd police sniffing around our turf. I tell you how the RP has been with the police the past few weeks. We have a situation with police we let them live then a warrent happens to that person and 15 - 20 police cars turn up plus black hawk and thats not enjoyable rp on our side its one sided fun for the police. So yeah you got dumped to prevent that happening

As an officer I attended a panic from another officer (it's my job to do so) only to show up, get shot off a bike instantly be left there for 5-7 minutes, then thrown in a car and dumped in water.

You got instantly shot of your bike because you turning up to a active gun fight. Before you drive in you can hear on your radio "Shots Shots" Then you drive in. What do you expect?

 

[kiran]

Dont know what you expect. Use come to a location of us making drugs. Do you expect us to drop you off at pillbox then recover and wack a warrent up or request a raid. Use got dumped because use turned up to the wrong place at the wrong time and found us making drugs yes use did get dumped. We dont want to get raided. We dont want over powerd police sniffing around our turf. I tell you how the RP has been with the police the past few weeks. We have a situation with police we let them live then a warrent happens to that person and 15 - 20 police cars turn up plus black hawk and thats not enjoyable rp on our side its one sided fun for the police. So yeah you got dumped to prevent that happening

realistically killing off the cops for good would have been ok if you had given us some RP - thats whats missing. If you had given even 5 mins of smthn then the situation would be completely different and at least i wouldnt have an issue with the RP side.

I think this kind of attitude towards getting a better understanding of the whole situation is appalling.

i'll put a screenshot of what was said to clarify this - sorry this got conveyed as it was not what was meant. It was put here since we had waited ages, ppl had to leave & i didnt want to wait in QE for hours
Clarifying my discord message - i just put up the report as we had waited ages
nearly every situation that can be resolved i just have a chat with them in QE, we have a laugh and get on with life but on the other hand im not one to sit around for an hour waiting to talk about something that is the backbone of the community & factions/gangs

Looks like you are guessing who was dumping by getting the ID's from OOC chat.

From the bare minimum this report at least makes staff aware of an ongoing issue. - i'll reply to the thing about saying the whole gang has an RP situation here too. Maybe its too big of a reach however, every single interaction i have had over the past 2 weeks with Ballas hasn't been great. Tbf yes there probably are some ppl who arent causing issues in the gang but unfortunately given my interactions as NHS, Police & Crim this is how i currently have seen the gang.

 

[Martt]

im not one to sit around for an hour waiting to talk

I’m not saying you have to wait hours. Roleplay was happening at the time. Whats stopping us from organising something to have a chat when everyone/most people are free? Instead of reporting and using up staff time, when a conversation hasn’t even been held yet..

I can confidently say that ballas actually held some great RP with a certain police officer (forgot the name sorry) I’ll provide the clip of the rp when I’m home from work.

Can I ask @kiran would you say your roleplay you provided helped with the situation? Providing you were shot TWICE you proceeded to laugh with another member of the police. No /me of any injuries or feelings were given. I know if were to be shot I wouldn’t be laughing the way you did.

 

[kiran]

Can I ask @kiran would you say your roleplay you provided helped with the situation? Providing you were shot TWICE you proceeded to laugh with another member of the police. No /me of any injuries or feelings were given. I know if were to be shot I wouldn’t be laughing the way you did.

if u had given us a chance to RP our injuries maybe you would know but either way you had no regard to that side of RP until this report has gone up


i wont do any back and fowards - fact of the matter is those who dumped gave 0 RP which is a blatant rule break
Those not involved in the dumping fair enough
Either way this being raised to staff is the best course of action especially demonstrated from not a single person saying fair enough our bad which would have changed my view on the situation

 

[Stuart]

Thank you for taking the time to make a report @kiran

Lot to go over so we can try and streamline things;

without pressing the PTT?! you might wanna rewatch your vid pal. Not to mention this started over someone using the panic button when given clear demands not to. Shame wish we could have had a fun situation but your side has decided not to go that route. Shame from a Faction.

Are you even involved in this report? Since you aren't adding much of anything with these comments over trying to add fuel to the fire.

@Dan Williams It appears to be you in the videos that have been provided that hit the panic button, Can you provide your side to this please?

@kiran & @Joeethc In the second video at 4:03, Can you both explain why you aren't roleplaying your injuries?

1) i personally was shot 2 times before going down. Im not entirely sure if they were headshots or not but given that the 1st wasnt insta kill i took it that it wasnt and continued to talk so that some RP could come from it.

The roleplay to be had is from both parties. You we're shot as to where that's down to yourself in that situation, Arm, Chest ect. I'd like a genuine answer to why you felt that the small portion of injured roleplay you did provide before being put in the vehicle was enough to keep going on like nothing happened?

2) The oppurtunity to RP any injury is basically taken from us when you pile us into a car and dump us all without a word

From watching the video no one even asked for medical nor to be taken to a hospital. Why? There are still many avenues of roleplay that could of been had even when placed in the vehicle.

If staff want any videos/evidence of anything let me know and I’ll see what I can do

If you have videos of this it would be welcomed for me to view for this report please.

A warning I will put here for you all is the following;

(G2.6) OOC Help
OOC chat is for help only, extended OOC interactions are forbidden

Lets not see this becoming a "Trend" as it will only lead to punishments being provided for those who wish to keep misusing OOC and throwing shade at others.

 

[Martt]

If you have videos of this it would be welcomed

Morning Stuart, I can get this for you around 6pm when I finish work. Sorry I work 12 hours

 

[kiran]

From watching the video no one even asked for medical nor to be taken to a hospital. Why? There are still many avenues of roleplay that could of been had even when placed in the vehicle.

its kind of hard to RP w/ someone who isn't communicating with you pretending you arent there essentially. From pretty early on you can see they are wanting to dump and i was hoping we would be given some sort of interaction beyond put in a car and into the ocean

I will say sure maybe i could have started screaming in pain but beyond "/me bleeding in seat" there isn't much i can do as im not being interacted with. The laugh was just because that scream caught me off guard . I normally give /me's when im being interacted w/ as usually on any served ive played its just ignored however, if its still recommended to do even in situations like this then thats something i can start to include

 

[Joeethc]

Hi @Stuart I did RP a bit verbally but then had to go in and out of my head to do a couple times, thinking the situation would go on for a bit It longer when I came back we was about to be dumped. I also explained to Ballas in QE that I didn’t want any part in this report and we had a good chat and everything was fine between us, I am usually very good at RPing my injuries both verbally and using /me's on all 3 of my characters it’s just unfortunate that this is the clip you see.

I can see why I have been @ on this report though. My RP in terms of injuries has to be a lot better in a situation like this despite being dumped (again I was not really that fussed about this)

All I can really say is going forward with any of my characters in any situation that involves myself being injured I will do better in the sense of RPing my injuries.

 

[Stuart]

Morning Stuart, I can get this for you around 6pm when I finish work. Sorry I work 12 hours

It's all good I'll wait for these before commenting on the other responses here so I can have a full picture on this.

 

[DanW]

@Dan Williams It appears to be you in the videos that have been provided that hit the panic button, Can you provide your side to this please?

Hello @Stuart yes it is me in the video with the Probie upon realising the gravity of the RP situation with the ballas members, we were heavily outnumbered and given the fact we had 3 guns on us my intentions were to comply as id already got a panic off prior to this happening, it was the Probie that pressed his panic i believe he did this and I'm not trying to make excuses for him but as it stands i think he is fairly new to the server and i don't think he realised this would fall under NVL, from my perspective i get why ballas shot as they were justified as soon as the Probie panicked and the Probie panicking rushed the RP for all sides involved i get why ballas dumped our bodies and why the RP was cut short, from my perspective i spoke to a couple of ballas in QE and explained the situation and apologised on behalf of the police and have informed the Probie of his mistake