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Report a Player - [TW] Cleon, Ollie032 - RDM

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Asher Sharkey

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Your In-game name

Asher Sharkey

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

[TW] Cleon, Ollie032

Date of the incident

03/28/2016

Time of the incident (GMT)

230

What best describes this incident ?

RDM

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1

Please (in detail) describe the incident

I was robbing [TW] Cleon as soon as he put his hands on his head I was shot by Ollie032. During this time I had several items all that are seen in the video to be on my person. Also this issues was later attempted to be resolved in the TS room awaiting assistance. I was not able to to reslove this issue with Cleon as he continued to state, 'That was a gang mate and my life was endanger.' Cleon was complying with all the demands and wasn't going to be shot. Ollie032 did shot and RDM me as seen in the video. I believe both player showed little to no RP also. Can you please assist me in this matter as this gentleman continued to troll me in TS and talk inappropriately following the discussion in TS. I was told to and I quote, 'Go FAP, so it will relieve the stress,' and other comments related to things of this nature by several high ranking members of this community that were also in the TS at the time. I enjoy playing here on this server as the RP is typically outstanding and the gents are nice. I just wished some people had more maturity in handling a situation was gear and items were lost due to poor/low quality RP that later resulted in the RDM of myself, Asher Sharkey.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaJN8E7Xd-s

This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 
Your came into an active gun fight with your gun out, you initiated on my friend I was afraid you were going to rob and shoot him so I shot you. This is also an invalid report, You didn't try to resolve it in TS3, the date of the incident and the report is a mismatch, you didn't report this in the given time frame, and you were driving about an active gun fight picking up guns of the floor.

Time put of incident on forums : https://gyazo.com/7c6b27fc67afebc818388ef6613f61dc

Time of upload of the video : https://gyazo.com/704be3cd0fe72108f170516369719852 

 
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First of all no attempt was made to resolve this situation

Second of all this is a revenge report. 

This situation started off with us and some police taking fire from the drug dealer hill whilst we was driving through kavala, the particular police involved asked me for video evidence so he could report this guys friends.

Anyway we drove up to the church and military tower to observe the 'gunfight' between this guys gang and the police (RDM - hence in his video you hear them discussing how the police are asking to talk with them via Teamspeak)

This guy then drives up to the military tower where I was, I knew what he was up to so as you can see in the vid I moved out into the open to give my snipers a shot, he then trys to hold me up, when I tell him that it is not a good idea, he demands I put my hands on my head so at which point my comms are cut and my guys kill him. We knew he was with the group of guys RDM'ING people on drug dealer hill hence why he was shot so fast.

After this incident he didn't once ask me to come to Teamspeak.

Anyway, when the gunfight had died down we got in our car and drove past the drug dealer to look for their truck, at which point we was opened fire on and I and Ollie was almost killed, we pulled up behind a rock to take cover which is when police reinforcements turned up for them, mistaking us for them and rubber bulleting me and killing Ollie,  I was restrained and the cops moved in to clear them out whilst a sniper of mine in the tower opened fire on the rebels only.

Eventually my arresting officer was killed and I was unrestrained, I placed my hands upon my head to wait for another officer to come and arrest me but they did not, so I holsterd my weapon and left the gunfight - not to return until my guys killed the last of them.

The medics came along and were told to revive my guys only, after that a medic revived one of their guys (i believe his name was WOLF), after the medic had finished RP'ING with the recently revived rebel I went over to talk to him and take him with me at which point he said this "out of roleplay I'm just dealing with a situation with the admins, I've got to go" I replied with "what are admins? Anyway please come with me" he then makes another comment starting with "out of roleplay" and then he just logs out.

I search his name on TS and find him and all of his gang members together with a staff member (Zara Larrson/ farmer giles) and the involved police. @Farmer Giles @PC Adam Jones  (I believe ive tagged the right people)

I joined to ask then why he combat logged and why me Ollie and Pierce was RDM'ed and one of them instantly got defensive and told me to stop being salty, a while passes and these guys get more and more aggressive, one of them says something along the lines of "screw this I'm going back to **** community" and then leaves, and then I believe 2 or 3 more got kicked from the teamspeak by the admin for being immature and abusive. At which point someone who I believe is unrelated to the incident says to these guys "why don't you go and fap, and relieve some of that stress" - I will say that the person saying that wasn't with me. But what he said was purely satirical and not meant offensively.

Anyway, the reason I say this is a revenge report is because he only said he was going to upload his video after I came in to back up the police officers story about them RDM'ING people. He turned around and said "what about your RDM, the guy from your gang didn't even have TW tags in so he can't kill me" the staff member told him that is irrelevant and we had done nothing wrong, nothing came of his threats to everybody and that is why he posted this report. 

Had you of come to me and asked to resolve your issue with this individual situation I would of been happy to resolve it - and I still am, if you would like to talk about it still hit me up with a message on the forums and ill organise a time to come and talk with you. 

Finally, our chats were regarding your actions and not ours when you was killed, therefor you are lying by ticking "yes" to the 'did you try to resolve' 

I'll try and find some footage of the above situations, and the conversation on teamspeak and ill upload them here as evidence, it will most likely be later this evening when I do that.

I'd also like to add that if anyone from the teamspeak (staff/police) see this report, please feel free to comment on this to explain the actions of these guys.

Also asher if you could upload any evidence of me trolling you in teamspeak and me being inappropriate I would very much appreciate it, because quite frankly, that's just a blatant lie.

 
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I also notice a bit of a time delay between when I actually said "that's not a good idea" - "okay okay okay" before he got shot 

I believe I actually said that the very first time he said "don't move, hands up" and the "okay okay okay" came after he shouted over the top of me with "hands up". Again ill check to see if any recordings show this

 
Hello, As @Cleon Had said your gang were opening fire on my Vehicle without Initiation when my other officers had heard about the situation we had a full blown operation about it.

Back to the situation at Hand when I found you in the "Awaiting Staff Attention" Lounge. When we tried to resolve this situation more than 2 of your members decided to mention different communities and swear at us. Before I had Cleon and Farmer Giles join the channel you (or) your gang were saying inappropriate stuff towards me and telling me to "Shut the F*** up" and "Squeaker". 

 
Those people are a part of something else this incident was just between myself and two people opposite of the police situation. They were hanging out and then I got RDM'd . My report was different than those other people as I wasn't an active shooter, however I was in the area. The area where these two individuals were in are not part of the 'scene' and this incident was drawn out in the video as there wasn't an 'active' situation. I was going into the 'awaiting staff attention' lounge to resolve this issue, however after 20-30 minutes of wait time I decided to leave after the immature comments and actions that were taking place and the lack of proper staff conversation. 

Cleon was there in TS3 and could've easily resolved this situation, however he was defensive and stating it didn't matter as reported in his statement. You can hear no threats on my life being made and then I was shot. I just simply stated hands up, and then I got shot. Ollie didn't let the situation play out at all. Therefore I'm asking for serious action to be taken on this RDM / poor quality RP. 

Further more I would like to address ' Back to the situation at Hand when I found you in the "Awaiting Staff Attention" Lounge. When we tried to resolve this situation more than 2 of your members decided to mention different communities and swear at us. Before I had Cleon and Farmer Giles join the channel you (or) your gang were saying inappropriate stuff towards me and telling me to "Shut the F*** up" and "Squeaker".'  ASHER SHARKEY wasn't part of all the yelling and name calling, I was simply trying to address my point as I was rarely given the chance to at the time of the incident. Also at some point I was kicked after being told to go 'FAP'. All people that are in this thread except for Ollie had mentioned this in TS3. 

"As for this:

Time put of incident on forums : https://gyazo.com/7c6b27fc67afebc818388ef6613f61dc

Time of upload of the video : https://gyazo.com/704be3cd0fe72108f170516369719852 

I don't have steady internet on this sever, however I did upload the video as I was sleeping, then went to work, got home, and ate. Then finally I sat down for my relaxation time and filled out the compliant in full. "

If you would like to speak with me further on this situation I would be more than willing to be in the TS3 chat. 

P.S. I work in the United States and currently it's 5:28 pm. (I do work long days and I have to sleep at some point) I'm sorry for not posting my tag sooner, however I have to work to pay bills. I did post about this issue within 24 hours of the issue occurring. If I remember the issue happened around 9 pm my time on Sunday witch puts that into Monday for you fellas across the pond. If I'm wrong I apologize. 

Respectfully submitted, 

Asher Sharkey

 
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you wasn't valuing your life much at the start of this video was you? what would happen if someone had of shot you out of your car? you was just driving around the middle of a gunfight with not a care in the world. I'm guessing you're using the knowledge that no one is aloud to shoot you whilst you are in your car right? I bet you would of cried RDM if someone had of shot you out of your car? I call that power gaming to the max to be honest... what do you think Asher?

I was going into the 'awaiting staff attention' lounge to resolve this issue, however after 20-30 minutes of wait time I decided to leave after the immature comments and actions that were taking place and the lack of proper staff conversation. 
Stop lying, you was in that channel because you and your friends RDM'ed the cops and you needed staff help to resolve it, you wasn't there to solve this issue with me, in fact post a screenshot/video evidence of you asking me to come to TeamSpeak to resolve it, after all - if you truly was there to resolve it you would of contacted me right?

I only joined that lobby because I had to talk to WOLF about combat logging. you just happened to be there at the time and using that as justification to ticking yes to "Did you try to resolve"

Cleon was there in TS3 and could've easily resolved this situation, however he was defensive and stating it didn't matter as reported in his statement. You can hear no threats on my life being made and then I was shot. I just simply stated hands up, and then I got shot. Ollie didn't let the situation play out at all. Therefore I'm asking for serious action to be taken on this RDM / poor quality RP. 
First of all I'm not a psychic, I don't know that you want to resolve anything with out you telling me, you seemed pretty pissed about losing the gear gained from RDM, why did you not ask me for compensation or anything?

second of all, you just came from killing cops to sticking a gun in my face, you threatened my life, hence why you was shot, a little fast yes, but we had been watching your activities prior to this incident, we had guys in the church and the military tower, and one in the air I believe. we knew you was extremely hostile and we had witnessed you and your friends murdering cops beforehand - you cant expect to put a gun in someone's face and not have their friends shoot you, perhaps don't be so aggressive with your RP next time and you wont be shot so fast, as you could see I had no weapon out, there was nothing I could do to you.

finally I didn't say "it didn't matter" with regards to the killing, it was with regards to the guy who shot you not having [TW] tags in his name.

Also at some point I was kicked after being told to go 'FAP'. All people that are in this thread except for Ollie had mentioned this in TS3. 
If farmer Giles kicked you from the staff attention lounge you must of done something to warrant such action no? Also, I would kindly ask you to stop lying, I didn't ever tell you to go "FAP" - however one person unrelated to everything did, and you got really offended: at least that's what you portrayed, you spent the whole time "resolving" trying to pick holes in people to find something to report. however After you said "I really don't appreciate you talking to me like that" to the person that told you to "go Fap" I said something along the lines of "Don't take it personally pal, everybody masturbates from time to time right?" however, there's nothing wrong with that statement, this is an adult community and not a Catholic school.

Can you please assist me in this matter as this gentleman continued to troll me in TS​
I'd also like to see your evidence for this accusation by the way -

Basically, you've gone and RDM'ed the cops with your gang, you've come up to rob me with poor RP (you didn't even give me a chance to talk to be quite honest), you never once contacted me about resolving it, you only brought the issue up when I came in to question your friend, however you questioned me about being shot by someone who didn't have gang tags in his name. and then to top it off you make a forum account with the only post being this report.

 
you wasn't valuing your life much at the start of this video was you? what would happen if someone had of shot you out of your car? Nope, I woudn't have because I was in the dead middle of that engagement.  you was just driving around the middle of a gunfight with not a care in the world. I'm guessing you're using the knowledge that no one is aloud to shoot you whilst you are in your car right? A cop should've have shot me from my beginning location in that video. However, that still doesn't give you the right to have someone kill me that I can't see or hear. There wasn't a single warning other than some mumbling that I couldn't hear due to being shot, in real time. I bet you would of cried RDM if someone had of shot you out of your car? This is actually my first report on this sever and seems to me that you just play the blame game after all. Furthermore to answer this question I feel that if this is to happen it would be on a case by case action and depending on the situation it would be and wouldn't be? I call that power gaming to the max to be honest... what do you think Asher? The incident of you being next to an active gunfight, over 300 meters away, and not being a part of the police force makes you not part of the incident. Therefore, you would have ached and pained yourself if I hopped and just shot you without saying word, now wouldn't you? Think about power gaming now isn't that a strong form of taking advantage of a situation? You at least knew I was apart of that gang from the jump. Just saying. 

Stop lying, you was in that channel because you and your friends RDM'ed the cops and you needed staff help to resolve it, you wasn't there to solve this issue with me, in fact post a screenshot/video evidence of you asking me to come to TeamSpeak to resolve it, after all - if you truly was there to resolve it you would of contacted me right? I wasn't even part of their situation to be honest as I was driving around separate. I heard them yelling about that situation. After looking at the video, why else would be there other than being shot without RP-RDM? I wasn't involved directly and died from the police did I?

I only joined that lobby because I had to talk to WOLF about combat logging. you just happened to be there at the time and using that as justification to ticking yes to "Did you try to resolve" Personally the whole time I was there I just chilled out. Then you got in there immediately yelling about a combat logging as he was trying to get an admins attention while in game. I then questioned you about your poor RP/RDM just as you were belly aching about him having a previous issue that you witnessed first hand from your location. Once you started being like, 'I don't care,' 'you threatened my life,' 'it's okay if he shot you due to you holding me up,' and 'finally aging on the situation in TS3 as you admittedly did by your below statement I personally believe you don't have a care for life on the server. Now, think about those issues. 

First of all I'm not a psychic, I don't know that you want to resolve anything with out you telling me, you seemed pretty pissed about losing the gear gained from RDM, why did you not ask me for compensation or anything? You did state several things during our conversation, and you were overly argumentative and I wasn't able to give my side as a 'victim' without being booted from TS3. I hardly ever report anyone on any of the severs that I play, and to be frank I love this community as I like environment, size, RP, and even the people. Moreover, my short experiences in TS3 have only yielded a positive outcome once since being logged into it. 

second of all, you just came from killing cops to sticking a gun in my face, you threatened my life, hence why you was shot, a little fast yes, but we had been watching your activities prior to this incident, we had guys in the church and the military tower, and one in the air I believe. There wasn't a single helicopter after watching that video. So you are admitting to snipers and no active ground effort to initiate RP with those locations? we knew you was extremely hostile and we had witnessed you and your friends murdering cops beforehand - you cant expect to put a gun in someone's face and not have their friends shoot you, perhaps don't be so aggressive with your RP next time and you wont be shot so fast, as you could see I had no weapon out, there was nothing I could do to you. Exactly, so have another person or gun available next you think your fancy by hanging out spectating a ongoing crime scene. So you have buddies with guns just going to RDM people at all cost. There was only one active vehicle in the area that fit your description and you stopped. You said yourself don't hangout around these incidents and not expect to get robbed, killed, or at a minimum just be held hostage. You would rather have 'UNSEEN GANG MEMBERS' who are well hidden just kill people that haven't been engaged with through RP. I feel now after hearing this from that you are very much at fault for the RDM as your 'MATE' for ordering this as you were actively in game communication with him. 

finally I didn't say "it didn't matter" with regards to the killing, it was with regards to the guy who shot you not having [TW] tags in his name.

If farmer Giles kicked you from the staff attention lounge you must of done something to warrant such action no? Also, I would kindly ask you to stop lying, I didn't ever tell you to go "FAP" - however one person unrelated to everything did, and you got really offended: at least that's what you portrayed, you spent the whole time "resolving" trying to pick holes in people to find something to report. however After you said "I really don't appreciate you talking to me like that" to the person that told you to "go Fap" I said something along the lines of "Don't take it personally pal, everybody masturbates from time to time right?" however, there's nothing wrong with that statement, this is an adult community and not a Catholic school. Are you bring offense to my religion or anyone else's on this game? The comments were related around 'FAPPING', and I don't feel it's necessary to mention every single comment made as that is the PG 13 version of the comments that were made. If you want something further; jack off was mentioned, number of times a day to relieve stress, the fact that it sometimes doesn't relieve stress, and the single fact that everyone in that channel that was being offended by someone mentioning another community was immature and continued to make states that have ill-regard for any all other players age and maturity level. I understand that going onto another community and them mentioning their community can be very offensive. I wasn't disrespectful to that comment or any comment at that time. I politely asked you guys to stop and everyone down played the conversation. 

I'd also like to see your evidence for this accusation by the way - Sorry I can't provide TS3 comments made verbally as I use shadowplay and I wasn't 'in a game'. However you admitted to the issues as said before in the previous paragraph where people were referring to 'FAPPING' or the like there of the conversation piece. 

Basically, you've gone and RDM'ed the cops with your gang Please don't say I RDM'd anyone as I was just picking up items and never fired up the police once the entire gun fight I will admit that I was present as you can tell by the video, you've come up to rob me with poor RP (you didn't even give me a chance to talk to be quite honest), I back away in case you had pistol so that you couldn't knock me out and never shot at you once the entire time. Therefore, that whole statement is invalid about 'POOR RP' you didn't let the situation play out and neither did your said 'RECRUIT'. did I ever hit you? did I ever say anything other than put your hands up? Did you ever question yourself if the RP you had presented was POOR or the actions of your RECRUIT RDM?, you never once contacted me about resolving it NOT EVER? I didn't mention the incident in TS3 where you were defensive and ill-willed to assist me since you felt nothing bad had been conducted by you or your mate?, you only brought the issue up when I came in to question your friend, however you questioned me about being shot by someone who didn't have gang tags in his name. and then to top it off you make a forum account with the only post being this report. I had first made my account on Sunday early in the day because I had lost several items due to restarts and such. I can post those videos as I haven't gotten around to those as I had been playing and kinda got over those situations as I know the administrative staff is busy and handling situations other than some petty 50-100k pound situation. Therefore, I didn't think it was important. What your gang mate did was exactly RDM and it was fresh on my mind. So after loading the video that was my first post. I feel that you are looking for any way out of this situation you can by making irrelevant plays at things that have nothing to do with this situation. You have still failed to ask if I would like to settle this. You would rather post 'hate mail' and defamation reports than try to resolve this matter as a mature adult since our first encounter which is in the video, second encounter TS3, third encounter here where everyone can just read and see everything. 
Please read the bold blue and red text as my own. 

Can we get an administrative review or comment if has been review as this issue obviously isn't getting resolved by 'hashing it out'?

Also to shed more light on the situation of the video evidence I uploaded that onto YouTUBE at 10:00 ish pm on Sunday that is why it reads the 27th and that is 3:00 GMT just an FYI. I live in the US once again. I just want to state that again as feel that was still being questioned as I forgot to get confirmation from google for timezone issues. 

Respectfully submitted, 

Asher Sharkey

 
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