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Report a Player - |TCC| Sweep |TCC| Alpha Kenibodie |TCC| Kyle Arnberg - RDM (Action taken)

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Carlo McIntosh

Carlo McIntosh

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Your In-game name

Carlo

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

|TCC| Sweep |TCC| Alpha Kenibodie |TCC| Kyle Arnberg

Date of the incident

08/04/2017

Time of the incident (GMT)

6000

What best describes this incident ?

RDM

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1

Please (in detail) describe the incident

My friends and I robbed people of their helicopters from clams. We warned both of them multiple times to stop the helis and they refused. This lead to them being shot. Almost immediately after they were shot one of them alt f4s and disconnects. Only to reconnect a minute later(Alpha Kenibodie). We are slightly frustrated by this move but decide to let it slide considering the situation. This is when we lockpick the helis and continues to clam processor to process all of the clams. When we are finished here we go to pearl dealer to sell. We intentionally make sure we land outside of the redzone just encase they decide to break NLR and camp there. We land and decide to send two of our men in to check the area. Our friends craig and pups enter the redzone and begin scanning the area for hostiles. Suddenly we all start taking shots are downed despite three of us being out side the redzone. This included shots from outside the redzone. They used the excuse that it was gang initiation once they shot our men inside the redzone therefore they could shoot the people outside the redzone. Once we had all been shot we were furious as it was blatant rdm .I ask them to join TS so they join about 10 minutes later. I explain to them the rules they broke and almost immediately i get offered compensation for our guns.Due to the circumstances of the situation I pressed for the worth of all of the Pearls as they clearly knew what they were doing. In my eyes they were willing to rdm a few people to get their helis back and the 3+ million worth of pearls. I prefer to avoid the forums but in a situation such as this when experienced members are intentionally rdming. I felt as if I had no other choice.
Rules Broken

(2.2) Random Deathmatch (also known as RDM) - Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order. Count downs are not considered quality roleplay, please at least attempt to create an interesting roleplay story before considering shooting.) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban).

This rule is not applicable in the red zone.

(Shot dead outside the redzone without any form of roleplay)

(2.5) Combat logging at any point during RP is exploiting. Some examples of this include: logging out during a firefight, being chased by the police, arrested by the police, while dead awaiting a medic, logging out in order to save gear, rage-quitting, logging out whilst restrained/detained (Punishment is a ban, which may be permanent. *) *Staff can make an informed decision depending on if you’ve made an attempt to resolve the issue. We do suggest you attempt to rejoin the server and continue the roleplay (try messaging them with the mobile system first).

(Alt F4 after he was downed)

I have strong suspicions of metagaming but cannot 100% prove it

(5.3) When you respawn:

Your character does not remember any previous roleplay situations.
Your character does not remember where any of its vehicles outside the garage are
Your character does not remember any previous enemies (your killer/robber etc)
Your character cannot return within 1000m of the location of death or be involved in the same combat situation until the 15 minute NLR timer has expired.
Your character does remember their friends & gang members.

(went to the pearl dealer after they were killed at clams)

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AatH1jZjjv0
 

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This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 
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No meta gaming was done, and in my case why I shot them two in the video is because they got engaged by my two teammates that shot the other 2 boys that were in the redzone, the 2 first to die were in the redzone and so was Alfa and Sweep just so you know.

Also wanna add another thing can you give a longer video when you're downed proving you did no meta gaming during this situation either because when I asked about that you guys locked up in Teamspeak and refused. That video is not long at all and they definately meta gamed AKA said information and gave out positions while down and without hotmicing it as well.

As for why I shot the 2 guys outside the redzone again I fired upon them because my friends got fired upon. That's all I have to say Alfa and Sweep did not RDM the guys they killed were in the redzone and I take full responsibility for my actions.

But I also wanna add that they refused to show us videos in Teamspeak when I asked them about metagaming when downed so that is an issue I also wanna take up with them because when you're downed you should RP accordingly and you're not able to radio in positions and or info about the enemy group.

Sweep and Alfa were in the redzone and the 2 guys by the bridge were as well and they even agreed to that in teamspeak. Only the 2 I killed "Kyle arnberg"

So only me should be punished by this if so. I take full responsibility of my actions.

But again Alfa and Sweep were in the redzone and the 2 guys that got killed were as well as when Alfa went to their bodies after they bled out they were inside the redzone he was checking for defibs.

So the last thing I ask please show a longer video of your point of view proving no coms were given as you guys were downed to pupps because he had more info than he should've from behind that church.

Again I take full responsibility for my actions. It was not well done on my part. But I used common sense when they got fired upon and took that as initiation on the gang and them all being in a group. Sorry if I did something wrong but yeah that's all I have to say for myself of what happened.

But there is a good 10 minutes missing including them calling us idiots and so forth in side channel and I politely asked them not to and just wait for us to come teamspeak but they kept insulting and being inpatient pricks in sidechat when I asked them nicely

Also for the record I was not killed at clams I was in Athira and they radiod in that they were about to lose their helis at clams, so I camped the dealer for a good 25-30 minutes also Sweeps and Alfa's NLR was long over by them coming there and I told them after they died what was going on as they had a "new life" So metagaming and NLR was not broken

And I didn't shoot a single shot until I got shots in my direction FYI.

That's all I can say basically. Perhaps I did RDM not saying it wasn't but not really saying it was since I didn't shoot until I got shot towards me in the bush on the hill but if that's the case so be it I made a bad decision and it'll be justified by the admins and I take full responsibility for it.

But alfa and Sweep didn't RDM, Alfa did combat log however and he did admit that in teamspeak as well.

But these guys also meta gamed when downed so there's that. But all in all it's out of my hands now and I hope you take everything I read into consideration have a great day.

 
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No one was in the red zone but me and craig, craig died i was the last one, the others were all out the red zone and were killed by some one else from your clan, other thing what u mean by metagaming? The frist guy I killed missed on me a full mag from behind and the secound was exactly where I was looking before, because I was trying to protect the helis...

 
Pupss after that, I know you have a video further into the situation because you all froze when I said that you should RP accordingly when downed. None of you wanted to show a video. So show me a video of all of your gang members giving no information about our whereabouts when downed. All I ask for. You peak the left side of the church knowing fully where I am because there is a dead gang member behind me.

I wasn't the guy who bumrushed and on TS earlier they said 3 of you were in the redzone, so how was it? 2 or 3?

You guys are changing your stories left and right. Even earlier in teamspeak they said 2 different things and then had to correct everyone.

Did you or did you not give any info at all while downed?

All I ask.

Alfa killed 2 instantly at the start of the situation then you Pupss ran to the church last guy in the redzone there were 3 of you in it at the time of the shooting when it all began. Either way i've said what I have to say it's not up to me anymore.

 
@Panter485 we gave you the option to return the gear and the pearls but you denied it. You were not interested in resolving the situation and were clearly willing to rdm to get your helicopters back. Also please dont throw false accusations about people metagaming. You guys knew exactly what you were doing in this situation and that is why it ended up here.It is evident you are experienced members as you own expensive helicopters therefore there is no excuse for your actions. Your attitude was terrible when we joined teamspeak and you are trying to turn this into a case against us with no evidence to back your claims rather then to further explain your reasoning of the situation. 

 
I said i'd comp the gear but no the pearls to the two that I killed.

The first thing you guys said was you have alot of explaining to do in teamspeak and instantly when we started speaking you spoke over us refusing to listen being ignorant. You guys had no intention of resolving this peacefully. I tried, I asked for video so we could review them together and get everyones point of view you denied us that and refused to "waste your time" on uploading video your exact words..

 
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Look at my post

Significance said:
I explain to them the rules they broke and almost immediately i get offered compensation for our guns.Due to the circumstances of the situation I pressed for the worth of all of the Pearls as they clearly knew what they were doing. In my eyes they were willing to rdm a few people to get their helis back and the 3+ million worth of pearls.
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The thing is you're accusing us of blatantly coming there to RDM you that was not our intentions at all, you refused to listen to us calling us names and not being respectful or listening. Why didn't you just provide us with videos? And longer videos after you guys got downed? Because you meta gamed you all froze in Teamspeak when I asked about that.

 
Can I remind you, that you were the person to leave teamspeak and told me to put it on the forums.

 
When I asked for videos all he said was, "i'll show you a video of RMD that's all I am gonna do". So I just said fine you guys obviously don't want to resolve this in a proper manner so I said have a great day post it on the forum and we'll resolve it there and then I left.

I saw no point in sitting there while they were talking over us the whole time and not listening to  a single word we had to say or giving us videos to review together so we could resolve it.

 
Significance said:
Can I remind you, that you were the person to leave teamspeak and told me to put it on the forums.
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So I ask you now, are you gonna provide videos that you guys didn't meta game while downed at all? Because I know you have them because the videos you posted are cut and edited.

I'm taking full responsibility for my actions so why don't you guys? Because you obviously did meta game while downed. And then you said fail RP while executing and I asked you what top tier RP you guys did on sweep and your words were he was just moaning and whining, well no shit he just got shot rp accordingly.

 
@Panter485

To be completely honest with you my pc can't handle any recording devices because of my graphics card, but Iam telling you I was looking towards the place where the secound guy was way before I started pvping against you.

 
Also wanna add when getting executed and asked for a last word all that was said by pupss the last guy to die was "Go fuck your mother"

But yeah if you check the logs for sidechat you can see them calling us idiots or at least one of them and being very unpatient and rude as well when I asked to wait til the situation was over but they kept spamming and threatining us even to take it to the forums and such. So there's that as well.

[SIZE=medium](2.8) Threats to report / disputes / Breaking RP in Voice. There are so many people on the server with all different points of view and disputes and disagreements are all part of the game, however please do not discuss them in-game also do not break RP in voice. For example if someone has RDM’ed you discussing this on the server or saying “I am going to report you” is not allowed. Please use the forums or teamspeak to report or discuss only (Punishment is a ban) Exception: You may contact someone using the text system if they are not on teamspeak or on the forums. Please only attempt to make this contact in effort to resolve the issue, not to antagonise the other player/users/members. [/SIZE]

Lets just leave it at this and let the admins take it from here, do I regret my decision kind of. If it happened again would I handle it differently yes.

But I am not trying to evade this I am taking full responsibility for what I did and what repercussions may happen for my actions. If I do get banned then that's a fair ban given out by the admins I hope and I will try and solve that from there i've been on the server for almost 3 years and this is the only community I play on currently.

But everyone have a great day and I hope this gets resolved by the higher ups thank you for your time.

Pupss said:
@Panter485

To be completely honest with you my pc can't handle any recording devices because of my graphics card, but Iam telling you I was looking towards the place where the secound guy was way before I started pvping against you.
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 also just wanna add this here where you have video evidence even though you say your PC can't handle it.

 
Panter485 said:
Also wanna add when getting executed and asked for a last word all that was said by pupss the last guy to die was "Go fuck your mother"

But yeah if you check the logs for sidechat you can see them calling us idiots or at least one of them and being very unpatient and rude as well when I asked to wait til the situation was over but they kept spamming and threatining us even to take it to the forums and such. So there's that as well.

[SIZE=medium](2.8) Threats to report / disputes / Breaking RP in Voice. There are so many people on the server with all different points of view and disputes and disagreements are all part of the game, however please do not discuss them in-game also do not break RP in voice. For example if someone has RDM’ed you discussing this on the server or saying “I am going to report you” is not allowed. Please use the forums or teamspeak to report or discuss only (Punishment is a ban) Exception: You may contact someone using the text system if they are not on teamspeak or on the forums. Please only attempt to make this contact in effort to resolve the issue, not to antagonise the other player/users/members. [/SIZE]

Lets just leave it at this and let the admins take it from here, do I regret my decision kind of. If it happened again would I handle it differently yes.

But I am not trying to evade this I am taking full responsibility for what I did and what repercussions may happen for my actions. If I do get banned then that's a fair ban given out by the admins I hope and I will try and solve that from there i've been on the server for almost 3 years and this is the only community I play on currently.

But everyone have a great day and I hope this gets resolved by the higher ups thank you for your time.



 also just wanna add this here where you have video evidence even though you say your PC can't handle it.
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@Panter485

If you didn't realize that's my friend smackyyy record, doesn't mean just because I reported it that this is my recording...

 
@Panter485

This is not even my fight, I'm here just to say my version of the story of what actually happend, not here to roast or take sides even though their my clan mates.

 
I am locking this player report, I have got enough to review this player report and make a decision on if you guys have anything to add feel free to message me on TS or on the forums.

 
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