Report a Player - (Shuppa), (Promo) (Gang:Erajorma) - RDM<br>Other

[Oden Sverkerson]

Your In-game name

[LOV] Oden Sverkerson

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

(Shuppa), (Promo) (Gang:Erajorma)

Date of the incident

02/09/2016

Time of the incident (GMT)

12:41

What best describes this incident ?

RDM
Other

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1
Teamspeak

Please (in detail) describe the incident

Me and some of my gang members where doing Meth. We came to the Meth dealer and there we saw a person on the upper floor, one of my men initiated on him. Shot him and after that a firefight broke out, they where more than we thought. a couple of minutes after the first shot was fired one of my gang members ([LOV] Meowie)arrived in a sport hatchback. He never went out of hes car and then he drove into the town. I never made contact with him ingame, he instantly got shot inside the vehicle as soon as he drove into the town. The person who we think RDMed him was Shuppa(steamID76561198090458199). Later on I killed one of the hostiled, after that I ran away, then ran into a house and then into the church yard. I put my gun in my backpack, ran acouple of meters then ran into a spot that noone could see me from. Changed clothes to ghillie suit. When I ran unarmed to my truck and was going to try and drive away I got shot without no initiation by Promo.(steamID76561198089194172). It was impossible for him to know that I was the guy. On many occasions Shuppa admitted to "metagaming" ín our opinion. As we tried to tell them nicely to get on Ts to sort this out they where rude and did not wanted to talk to us. On one occasion Hipstek(the leader) admitted that they where in a gang and was using another TS for that gang("Erajorma"). after a long time in my perspective, around 10min he came into LOV lobby, was talking very loud and was quite rude thowards us. We tried to tell him what he did was wrong, he kept on "screaming" and then left the chat.

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This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 

[Hipstek]

If you want to take the story forward, put your side of commanding the video here.
And another thing I have not been to your ts3 in the lobby even though you claim to see this.

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[Oden Sverkerson]

9 hours ago, Hipstek said:

If you want to take the story forward, put your side of commanding the video here.
And another thing I have not been to your ts3 in the lobby even though you claim to see this.

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All I heard was you talking after you died?

 

[angellfall]

He never went out of hes car and then he drove into the town. I never made contact with him ingame, he instantly got shot inside the vehicle as soon as he drove into the town. The person who we think RDMed him was Shuppa(steamID76561198090458199). Later on I killed one of the hostiled, after that I ran away, then ran into a house and then into the church yard. I put my gun in my backpack, ran acouple of meters then ran into a spot that noone could see me from. Changed clothes to ghillie suit. When I ran unarmed to my truck and was going to try and drive away I got shot without no initiation by Promo.​

Respectfully, just few quick questions: Didn't the guy make contact to you in beginning of the video? Didn't the guy ask if the "here" marker was accurate? Didn't he ask if he can engage from green tower? Didn't you say "yes you can kill them" etc. I really think Shuppa had that good evaluation of the situation that he was sure to engage the individual in the vehicle as your reinforcement. 

What comes to you actually dying inside the vehicle, none came to the area i'm sure promo had it covered when he engaged you in your gang vehicle. You can clearly see he had you on his sites when you ran to the vehicle and engaged you after you jumped to the vehicle, thus got indentified you as a gang member.

I'm aware you guys usually tend to RP top notch, but lately on our encounters I have had lack of feeling it. Usually lately it has gone someway like we shout at you to do something and you respond by firing and get shot right after. It might be just spesific individuals, but it leaves me hoping for that some little more.

Gunfight was solid both sides scored good, it was a blast. I don't really think it deserves this. One of our guys got shot when he came to the area with a car mid gunfight. Asked your guy "what is happening" and got shot, instantly. One could argue about that also. 

Guy in your TS was not behaving good and is made sure he knows this. However I can also understand his point of view as what happened in agios after the gunfight, and being really upset because of this. It does not justify the behaviour, but adds a reason behind it.

Most of our players are totally new, just with few days played on the whole game. Therefore some hicups every here and there. Personally I think me and hipstek are doing really good job teaching and controlling them to become good and solid part of the community. Personally I tend to ask and clarify rules from admins before we apply tactic ingame.

I know we enforce rules ingang really hard and have developed enjoyable environment for Finnish players to play and learn altislife.co.uk. As what I see from the footage this report only includes 2 members in it. Therefore I would like to have the gang removed from it. I respectfully hope that it is not needed for me, hipstek, or anyone else from our gang needed to get pulled in to this apart from the parties involved in your case. As note to admins, me and Hipstek are commenting due the reason the whole gang is involved in the report and we are leading it.

 

[Oden Sverkerson]

Respectfully, just few quick questions: Didn't the guy make contact to you in beginning of the video? Didn't the guy ask if the "here" marker was accurate? Didn't he ask if he can engage from green tower? Didn't you say "yes you can kill them" etc. I really think Shuppa had that good evaluation of the situation that he was sure to engage the individual in the vehicle as your reinforcement. 

What comes to you actually dying inside the vehicle, none came to the area i'm sure promo had it covered when he engaged you in your gang vehicle. You can clearly see he had you on his sites when you ran to the vehicle and engaged you after you jumped to the vehicle, thus got indentified you as a gang member.

I'm aware you guys usually tend to RP top notch, but lately on our encounters I have had lack of feeling it. Usually lately it has gone someway like we shout at you to do something and you respond by firing and get shot right after. It might be just spesific individuals, but it leaves me hoping for that some little more.

Gunfight was solid both sides scored good, it was a blast. I don't really think it deserves this. One of our guys got shot when he came to the area with a car mid gunfight. Asked your guy "what is happening" and got shot, instantly. One could argue about that also. 

Guy in your TS was not behaving good and is made sure he knows this. However I can also understand his point of view as what happened in agios after the gunfight, and being really upset because of this. It does not justify the behaviour, but adds a reason behind it.

Most of our players are totally new, just with few days played on the whole game. Therefore some hicups every here and there. Personally I think me and hipstek are doing really good job teaching and controlling them to become good and solid part of the community. Personally I tend to ask and clarify rules from admins before we apply tactic ingame.

I know we enforce rules ingang really hard and have developed enjoyable environment for Finnish players to play and learn altislife.co.uk. As what I see from the footage this report only includes 2 members in it. Therefore I would like to have the gang removed from it. I respectfully hope that it is not needed for me, hipstek, or anyone else from our gang needed to get pulled in to this apart from the parties involved in your case. As note to admins, me and Hipstek are commenting due the reason the whole gang is involved in the report and we are leading it.

First of all. You can still not know that he is with us, he was in a car and never went out of it near the town.

I at first thought it was a good firefight, except the part that one of my men got sprayed down while he was in hes car. You say that we told our mate in the car that he could shoot you guys, that doesn't mean that you can shoot him at first sight, you have to initiate in some way.

Even though you say that "some" LOV member tend to just want to kill doesn't justify or should not resolve in your gang not wanting to roleplay with us and be "Very rude to us" It's not good, when one of your members come in to talk and we are up for talking one should not yell and be rude "AF" towards us or any other gang that are willing to resolve this.

We tried and tried so many times to get the people into TS to talk this out, but no one wanted to. This was our final choice of action to put this on report post.

Regarding that I'm naming the gang is because you are not using altislife.co.uk Teamspeak. This made it even harder to come in contact with you. It's the admins decision what to do about that. It's in the video and if the admins watch the video they will know. 

 

[angellfall]

Regarding that I'm naming the gang is because you are not using altislife.co.uk Teamspeak. This made it even harder to come in contact with you. It's the admins decision what to do about that. It's in the video and if the admins watch the video they will know. 

Using altislife.co.uk TS is not required from a gang in any part of the rules (For server rules refer to here: http://www.altislife.co.uk/rules/) . To contact players you are allowed to utilize OOC if someone has broken rules in your opinion. Respectfully do not drag the gang into this continue in course of the initial report. As far as I see this case is on hold of admin to see the evidence. Would be also helpful to post footage from the perspective of the meowie. Personally I think it was a good firefight and really honestly enjoyed seeing it. I think it is a shame it is being ruined by fighting like this. 

As from our part at this time, we have nothing more to add into this before admin initiation. However as I stated before we strongly feel like our guy experienced sorta same experienced what you classed in this thread as RDM. Plus of that the initiation of your part to the thought out full scale firefight (what I have heard) non existent. Also after looking the video footage really fast I think you had at least 1 guy breaking the NLR rule. We are willing to proceed on these cases also if needed, but we are ready to leave this all behind because as said before I feel like this was really good experience and good firefight.

 

[Andres Martinez]

Hi  misterr angellfall, 

I was on of theGuys taking mart in this meth run.SO about the the initiation from our side to your guy in the dealer i can  try to find my footage of eddylane hotmiccing it.i even got initiated on myself by one of your Guys.Possible because i was on the other side of the town but i find it strenge that i get a separate initiation when you clearly see i ma part of the convoy but a guy driving up in. A sporty doesn't get initiation without you knowing if he is part of us.  About the NLR breaking you are saying i can tell you the last people in that town where cops since our trucks got scrapped whole we where regearing.

I fully take the punishment if i wasn't in my right to post here but i just telt i had to give a difrent side of the story then from one person of LOV.

 

[Oden Sverkerson]

Using altislife.co.uk TS is not required from a gang in any part of the rules (For server rules refer to here: http://www.altislife.co.uk/rules/) . To contact players you are allowed to utilize OOC if someone has broken rules in your opinion. Respectfully do not drag the gang into this continue in course of the initial report. As far as I see this case is on hold of admin to see the evidence. Would be also helpful to post footage from the perspective of the meowie. Personally I think it was a good firefight and really honestly enjoyed seeing it. I think it is a shame it is being ruined by fighting like this. 

As from our part at this time, we have nothing more to add into this before admin initiation. However as I stated before we strongly feel like our guy experienced sorta same experienced what you classed in this thread as RDM. Plus of that the initiation of your part to the thought out full scale firefight (what I have heard) non existent. Also after looking the video footage really fast I think you had at least 1 guy breaking the NLR rule. We are willing to proceed on these cases also if needed, but we are ready to leave this all behind because as said before I feel like this was really good experience and good firefight.

Read this! And like I wrote earlier, we tried to resolve this but no one in your gang at that time wanted to talk to us. Your gang leader was online at that time he could have stepped in as the voice of the people that did this. Hipstek also admitted at that time that they are not using the server TS, I linked what Wilco posted here read that.

 

[IgnorantBagel]

Immideatley I will answer this. You do NOT need to be on the ALUK TS server, it makes it easier to contact you, yes. But if you have gang rooms/base on ALUK in that circumstance then you MUST be on the ALUK  TS.

ok, So going through the evidence in this mess of a report.

Immideatley I hear the foul attitude of shuppa Constant swearing and shouting followed by just DC'ing from TS. It is unacceptable


Name:Shuppa


Steam ID:76561198090458199


GUID:ab504e78fce829b4b1598145e43a0ba3



Other than that I don't think any more bans need to be handed out. Simply because I feel it unnescesary. You both gave equally poor RP. Not to mention that fact that you backpacked your gun in the middle of a fight to get out, that is really quite poor.

in theory they can assume it to be you bieng that you ran up to your truck unlocked it and tried to drive away.

That said you should have been re initiated on. That was like I say, very poor from both parties.

Im sorry, in your video you say 6 mins after the last shot was fired but the time on the video doesnt match up with that. So i have made this descision based off of the evidence supplied.