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Report a Player - PC S E T H - RDM (Report Rejected)

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Albiston

Albiston

Banned
Location
Brighton
Your In-game name

[ARC] Albiston

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

PC S E T H

Date of the incident

13/09/18

Time of the incident (GMT)

1633

What best describes this incident ?

RDM

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1

Please (in detail) describe the incident

We took a police officer hostage and brought him to our gang barracks. After a bit of roleplay forward and back we ended up executing him for being cocky. A short while later we had a notification saying gang base being raided so we flew over there and upon landing we got shot. Went to liaison and apparently police can shoot us because they followed us in Indian 99 and watched us execute him back at barracks. I still don't feel like this is a valid reason to shoot us upon landing because the situation we had with the officer we executed was over and done with.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 
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Can you please show everyone the whole situation from when you killed the hostage to when I killed you guys please

 
S E T H said:
Can you please show everyone the whole situation from when you killed the hostage to when I killed you guys please
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I use shadowplay mate set to record every 5 minutes so i cant but you said you guys have the npas footage.

 
here is the video footage of i-99 following you from that situation. 

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here is the video footage of i-99 following you from that situation. 

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can i see the footage of when you saw the first kidnapping ?

 
Yes what milo said and how comes I can only hear you in the video and not the people in your comms little bit strange?

 
 I was thermaling for the I-99, the situation you have reported PC Seth for has not any relevance to the situation in question. I have given you the necessary footage for the situation, I may give it to you if you tell me why the relevance of bringing it up however there is no reason why it should be posted. 

More to the point, at which point does this situation turn into RDM?

PS: if you do listen there are other people talking, The game sound was drowning it out unfortunately by the overpowering sound of the I-99 hellcat.

 
I believe its RDM because we had 2 seperate situations. First one being the taking of the hostage which i still dont know how police found out where he was as he had his gps taken and coms and didnt say anything in game and i highly doubt NPAS would watch one specific officer. I dont think killing a hostage should allow police to kill us 5-10 minutes later espically when we've moved. the second situation was with macdonald and he didnt shoot me straight away when i wasnt in the greenzone so it was clear that the first situation was other. We then killed Macdonald and left this scene because cops started raiding gang base. Bit strange how you lure us in to get killed by raiding the gang base knowing we would respond to it as we just came from there seems a little like baiting?

Personally i think both situations were over and there should have been a re-initiation 

 
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Can we please keep this conversation necessary and relavant to the situation. Its starting to go back and forth quite a lot. If it looks like its going off the rails then it will be locked until a staff member LV3+ responds. 

 
Look man at the end of the day if you think it is RDM then you have every right to post this, we will just have to see what the staff member/s think of this. If they think its RDM then I will be banned if not then I won't be banned. I have given in my side of the situation so there is no need to go on and on about this. Just wait till it gets looked at by staff.

 
Ive been thinking about this situation and believe this is not right. We were at airport 5km away from our gang base , when we executed the officer that doesn't mean we can travel 5km away and start shooting other officers because we executed one 2 less than 2 minutes before hand. We as rebels would have to reinitiate so how is this fair that cops can just spray us down without saying anything , its an unfair advantage which doesn't make sense , or is it fair that if we have eyes on officers that shoots rubbers at our friend and arrest him , we  can we set up at PD and then just spray you (officers) down ? No it doesn't work like that. 

@S E T H do you believe this is not the case ? as in you think its perfectly okay if we did this to you ? just travel 5km away and shoot you ???

 
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IB Albiston said:
I believe its RDM because we had 2 seperate situations. First one being the taking of the hostage which i still dont know how police found out where he was as he had his gps taken and coms and didnt say anything in game and i highly doubt NPAS would watch one specific officer. I dont think killing a hostage should allow police to kill us 5-10 minutes later espically when we've moved. the second situation was with macdonald and he didnt shoot me straight away when i wasnt in the greenzone so it was clear that the first situation was other. We then killed Macdonald and left this scene because cops started raiding gang base. Bit strange how you lure us in to get killed by raiding the gang base knowing we would respond to it as we just came from there seems a little like baiting?

Personally i think both situations were over and there should have been a re-initiation 
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As being the hostage in the first situation you claimed you got killed for

My colleages purely tracked me using their own pair of eyes as I was on my way to athira I crashed my car and a bright yellow and black hummy landing right next to me saying the old hostage thing, at that moment i made a distress call as soon as the first man pulled a MX from his backpack, alerting SGT Kraken and PC Atles from the diamond factory, where they would have been able to spot my crashed SUV and a yellow hummingbird with me loaded in the back as you guys were having trouble loading me in.

And at no point did I speak when my comms were taken

 
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And at no point did I speak when my comms were taken
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The only reason I suggested this was because I never heard you hot mic for backup or anything, I will have to speak to tiger later today to confirm if he heard your hotmic aswell.

 
I-99 watched you gun an officer down (yours truly) after attempting to make an arrest. You then continue to flee (even went into a greenzone right after killing me, cheeky) and within 3 or 4 minutes officers have eyes and get rid of the threat to officers.

You WERE NOT SHOT FOR EXECUTING PILLIBOEF. Rather for the active threat you posed by shooting officers to escape.

This is my side as the officer first making contact and being responsible for backup call aswell as being the one initially shot.

 
Alright so first of all I also heard the I-99 say that I fleed to the greenzone and I would like to explain my point of view on that. So the situation was the gunfight between me and you and you didn’t call backup so that situation was done and dusted. The gang barracks gets raided by cops and I took the fastest possible route to it. I had 0 intentions on actually fleeing to a green zone for protections I simply flew over it after the active slituation was over. As Oliver said it’s a bit unfair for us rebels to have to re initiate but for cops to shoot us down 5 kliks away. Just because there is an I-99 watching 800-900m in the air doesn’t mean the situations active because we killed an executed a single officer that didn’t call for backup. With that being allowed it would let me shoot for example all of sos because they killed 1 of my guys just because my group have thermals on them. It just isn’t fair a single bit and gives cops a massively humongous advantage. Basically it allows for a group of rebels that execute an officer in pygros to get instantly shot the second thy arrive at Kavala across the map because they’ve been followed by the I-99.

If that doesn’t scream rdm I don’t know what does.

 
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What voice channel did you do it in because surely milo or me would have heard it. @-Milo- did you hear him call for backup just for some clarification?

 
IB Albiston said:
As Oliver said it’s a bit unfair for us rebels to have to re initiate but for cops to shoot us down 5 kliks away.
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I'm not dealing with this report, but just to clarify, since this seems to be causing confusion. What you said, isn't the case. During an active gunfight, if you 'maintain eyes on, police OR rebel, you can continue the situation. Different story if you lose visual contact as you wouldn't be 100% sure it was the same vehicle, person.  

 
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