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Report a player - Miles Berrecloth (Vagos) - GTA RP

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Your In-game Name: Raj Patel

Name and/or ID of the player(s) you are reporting: Miles Berrecloth (Vagos)

Which server did the incident take place on: GTA RP

Date of the incident: 02/20/22

Time of the incident (GMT) 24hr Format: 2200

What best describes this incident ?: C2.2 (Exploiting)

Please (in detail) describe the incident: Coalition pushed Vagos turf which ended up in a skirmish, near the end of the fight where we were getting ready to leave, one of the TC members was shot, the fact we cleared all the buildings APART from the upstairs weed room (because both parties know this room is buggy with people going Invisible) it became clear someone was in the upstairs area shooting.

The events after this was multiple people going down to someone shooting from the window while just trying to get downed bodies out. Once we realised it was someone shooting from the upstairs window and nobody could see them at all, it was put in OOC to say no one could see with him and to stop shooting so we could get our bodies and leave the situation. However this was ignored and the person continued to keep shooting and exploiting a known bug.

Evidence below proves that they full well know that this room is buggy and people go invisible.

1. Forum bug report for Vagos leader Bobby Wink stating "1. Weed room middle car park when you go upstairs you go invisible to others who enter after. - https://www.roleplay.co.uk/topic/136028-vagos-turf-bugs/
2. Proof from Robz that they will happily abuse the room if we continue to defend the ranch (they say its buggy but we have tested it no one goes invisible inside the ranch, only evidence of any "bug" inside the ranch they have provided is desync from thinking you killed someone and they get back up, which is a fivem/server issue NOT a ranch issue) - https://gyazo.com/594b10bf8e714d47dcbcf7c274fe5723
3. Miles admitting it was him upstairs abusing the room "because there was nothing else he could do" - https://gyazo.com/d5f2797dc510e16920225dfbdbffa5c9
4. Footage of trying to get sessions heads for the report but because Miles was invisible this did not work. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CpipLE1VKE
5. OOC messages asking him to stop because he was invisible, and also Bobby Wink saying there is nothing wrong with it even though he put up a bug report about it. - https://gyazo.com/0ef51c0ac1f844c0f688bf4824257e18

I would also like to point out 2 situations recently:

1. One of our members, without knowing the room was buggy above as he hadn't pushed Vagos turf before, was asked to come downstairs and stop shooting and leave because of issues with the room (he had to hand over his weapon to be let go) - Our member complied, stop shooting handed over the gun and left.
2. A Vagos member was stuck upstairs and asked us to let him leave the building without getting shot so he could continue the situation fairly - in which we complied and let him walk out without being shot with his hands up.

I am also an ex Vagos member and have tested the upstairs rooms to see when you become invisible.

Staff were made fully aware around April when there was a big fight on Vagos turf with most of the city gangs involved and multiple people were found to be invisible upstairs in the weed room.

More footage from the past can be provided of the room being abused by Vagos will full knowledge they are invisible.

Please note: Vagos were requested to come to TS and they refused. So unable to sort anything out with them.

Names of the people who went down to Miles can also be provided (I was one of them but unfortunately shadow play was not working)

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot):



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CpipLE1VKE



This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!: Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting: Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans): Yes

 
Can you please provide clips showing what you are accusing me of please and I will reply in full tomorrow when I have more time.

 
Your report is currently being reviewed, Please be patient while the evidence is reviewed

Please keep checking this report regularly just in case the reviewing staff member has any questions

Thank you for your report and you doing your part to keep our community clean!

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@Sir RaptorI don't suppose you have any footage of this?

 
The first thing i'd like to say is, The room is not "the invisible weed room" as stated in the video. Does it have problems sometimes? Yes, But it is not all the time.
I don't really have any clips of the situation because it was a bit too intense for me to be hitting my clip button all the time but I do have a clip of showing my POV during the clip you provided - Your clip for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CpipLE1VKE

My POV - https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/bXLLZzthjxkmU/d1337S003dYb?invite=cr-MSxQMk0sMTY2ODY1MzMs

You can see both times after I've killed someone I either hide behind the wall or i move to the corridor. Your clips aren't showing that I cant be seen only that you did not see me after I had been shooting.
The whole building on Vagos turf is our only option of cover across the whole area and we cannot be blamed for using it when we are forced to when it is not 100% broken all of the time. We have raised it with Devs and there is nothing else we can do about it. We raised our concerns regarding the ranch when it comes to the De-Sync and the advantage that it gives using the doors on the top floor but you all insisted you were going to continue using it. 
It's possible to shoot out of the Ranch Rooms doors without them opening in other peoples POVs and its also possible to warp through them without them opening in other peoples POVs but you've continued to use it as it is a vital part of your turf. We know you are all aware of this advantage because you all literally stay on the top floor of the building to defend and use the doors to constantly fire from. The early weeks of the war you'd consistently be outside and in the surrounding areas including the roof however this is no longer the case since you noticed the advantage you receive from using the doors and head peaking the windows at angles you cannot be seen from on the outside.
https://i.imgur.com/rSCiJ4f.jpg

We have since run our own tests on the rooms/corridors and it cannot be said that it is 100% broken. I will attach some pictures.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/926925560905625600/945382539772698726/unknown.png?width=527&height=676
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926925560905625600/945382920867176518/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926925560905625600/945383088295399516/unknown.png

It cannot be said 100% that you could not see me just based on the fact I was not in view when someone had already gone down. When it was raised in OOC and you said you couldn't see me the only way to rectify the situation was for you to leave the area. Instead you had people climbing up to try get the drop on me from the near by roof tops so I had to react to that and shoot back. You can see me take a bullet in the clip. 
I would also like to point out that running around during an on going situation using session heads could be seen as exploiting to determine my location. I wouldn't have appeared in the clip as I was likely in the corridor and not at a window. my ID could have been retrieved afterwards and as we all can communicate OOC you know you could have easily found out who was in the building.

"1. One of our members, without knowing the room was buggy above as he hadn't pushed Vagos turf before, was asked to come downstairs and stop shooting and leave because of issues with the room (he had to hand over his weapon to be let go) - Our member complied, stop shooting handed over the gun and left."
He was the last standing coalition member and we let him leave AND take bodies to Hospital. We could prove he was invisible so we compromised to let him live and take you all to hospital. This is not the same as having 7/8 Vagos still on their feet in the area and the situation still being active. 

2. A Vagos member was stuck upstairs and asked us to let him leave the building without getting shot so he could continue the situation fairly - in which we complied and let him walk out without being shot with his hands up.
From what I have been told this member was kidnapped/shot as soon as he came out of the room so you didn't really let it continue fairly. Either way both of these points are irrelevant to this post.

I think that sums thinngs up from my POV during the whole situation but I'm happy to answer any more questions staff may have.

 
Sir Raptor said:
I would also like to point out that running around during an on going situation using session heads could be seen as exploiting to determine my location. I wouldn't have appeared in the clip as I was likely in the corridor and not at a window. my ID could have been retrieved afterwards and as we all can communicate OOC you know you could have easily found out who was in the building.
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I'm going to reply to this since it was my clip of using session heads.

Using session heads in order to determine a location of a player would have in fact been a rule break but I believe it's very clear that this wasn't my intention. I don't think it's relevant that there was an ongoing situation. I believed there was rule break so I attempted to get your ID for if it was to be taken to a report as we were unhappy with the situation. I still believe your ID would have shown if you were in the corridor due to how close I was to the building (I'm sure this can be tested by staff if required) which leads me to believe it didn't show due to the MLO being broken which I know you're aware of being an ex Azteca fighting against the Vagos in the past. I did attempt to retrieve your ID via OOC communication as will be shown in the OOC chat logs to which I don't believe I got a response.

I'm going to attach a screenshot below which clearly shows my intentions of using session heads where I requested the name of who was inside the building to which I received no reply. I also messaged JB OOC to ask who it was inside the building abusing the bug. Both screenshots will be attached below:

OOC Chat - https://gyazo.com/45a60b8a89a3dee84140314726fb7b0b

DM's with JB - https://gyazo.com/d308c00254813bbb4068e9b6e1e04317

 
The first thing i'd like to say is, The room is not "the invisible weed room" as stated in the video. Does it have problems sometimes? Yes, But it is not all the time.
I don't really have any clips of the situation because it was a bit too intense for me to be hitting my clip button all the time but I do have a clip of showing my POV during the clip you provided - Your clip for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CpipLE1VKE
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By Invisible weed room, we are referencing the entire upstairs of the building here. Even though the weed room downstairs also has invisible issue when there are multiple people inside.

You can see both times after I've killed someone I either hide behind the wall or i move to the corridor. Your clips aren't showing that I cant be seen only that you did not see me after I had been shooting.
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Thanks for providing your POV its helped me make this: 

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If you listen to the calls of people going down not once are you seen out the windows while it is being watched the entire time. At 7m03s into the video you phase through the walls then back into the building and suddenly go back invisible.

 
After a discussion with both leaders of Coalition and Vagos a contingency has been put in place until the known issue can be sorted with the vagos building. 

@Sir RaptorWill receive a warning 

 
Thank you for doing your part in keeping the community clean.

Your report has been approved and action has been taken against the reported player.

If you are out of pocket due to this case please now open a compensation request here, Do make sure to mention this report.

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