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Report a player - Frank (NSC) - GTA RP

Matthew Labile

Los Santos NHS
Los Santos NHS
Location
The Block

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Matthew Labile
Reported Players: Frank (NSC)
Date: Nov 20, 2024
Time: 20:40
What best describes this incident: C2.2 Exploiting
Please (in detail) describe the incident: had a gunfight with nsc which resulted in myself being incapacitated, while incapacitated Frank had ran over wanting to get me out the building to dodgy me (which he successfully did, even though I had mentioned my query in ooc about the exploiting) and in my opinion it is quite clear exploiting as in seen in my point of view the door is closed and wont open due to a car the other side blocking it, that's what I'm assuming, he uses the vehicle placement option to place through a door/ wall to place me into the boot of a vehicle.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://streamable.com/esyjga (my POV)
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(Franks POV)
 
Hello,

it wasn't intentional I literally thought I had the door open enough that's why I used it but for me at the time my arm was holding the door hence I didn't just just back the car up and stand over your body and try do it straight away I was trying to actually hold the door open and put you in but the third eye was hard to get that's all so I do apologise and you could of came to QE and spoke about it to try resolve some stuff but it went straight to report.
 
Hello,

it wasn't intentional I literally thought I had the door open enough that's why I used it but for me at the time my arm was holding the door hence I didn't just just back the car up and stand over your body and try do it straight away I was trying to actually hold the door open and put you in but the third eye was hard to get that's all so I do apologise and you could of came to QE and spoke about it to try resolve some stuff but it went straight to report.
Hello now we have a difference of opinion on if this is exploiting or not for now we will have to agree to disagree which is fine. In my opinion this is one of the worst exploits I've ever seen.

Now you mention we could have went to qe and spoke about it to try and resolve some stuff and say I've went straight to reporting you, which in my opinion isn't true I had liaised with Courtney and it came to a unforeseen end which is fine, we had briefly spoke in dms to which I had asked her to ask you to QE which you are well aware of as her response was 'he said what for' to which I said have you got your pov to which I got your discord and got your POV as seen in the report, now we spoke about it and was instantly at a disagree on whether we believed it was exploiting or not, so to me I then assumed a QE would have went it the same fashion just disagreeing which is fine, we did liaise just not in voice, in text, we disagreed so here we are.
 
I was in a situation with police as was courtney that's why it had to be ended so quickly you can ask they pushed our turf so it wasn't for nothing, yeah not everyone agrees on something but still good to have a talk because you can read a text in the wrong way but hey ho it's clear there is nothing more I can say bud so I guess leave it to staff
 
Also would like to add An open door is an open door, if you're in reaching range of an open door to the car boot that is on 'ajar' ie very slightly open, you could still be dragged through that door (with a bit of a struggle) but theoretically, it could be done. you can clearly see the door was unlocked when I pushed it open running into it and labile was close enough to the door to warrant being grabbed. The doors in the city are very client sided (no door is ever the same from player to player). Granted, for me the door was only open a bit but the outcome would've still been the same regardless if the door was wide open or open as it was in the clip. It's not like I was putting you in the boot of the car through a locked door or a solid wall, you’re literally dead, infront of an open door within grabbing range. If someone was to hold the door open wide, it would've been the same outcome, but I thought id use a little initiative putting my back to the door, to drag you and put you in the boot (like you would in real life, if you were dragging a dead body through a freely swinging door)
 
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Morning. So after watching the video and speaking with some other staff members. I am going to be saying that in this specific scenario i do not deem this to be an exploit. The reason for this is because the distance between the 3 (car, downed player, door) are all very close. The door was 'unlocked' so there was no sort of gaining an advantage here. It was just unfortunate that the downed player was so close to that open door to where it would be somewhat reasonable to take that player through the open door and throw into boot.

I know there has been situations with doors and moving bodies through them however this one is different due to how close they are to the door compared to other situations where there was a massive unreasonable distance in between. So in this specific scenario there will be no action taken. Sure, someone else could have 'held the door open' whilst putting the downed player into the boot which would have enhanced the roleplay and made it look better. However as mentioned. What did happen was not unreasonable.

Thanks.
 
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