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Report a player - Cutlass - 47 - GTA RP

Martt

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Location
Ballas

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Mart Woody
Reported Players: Cutlass - 47
Date: Sep 23, 2024
Time: 21:20
What best describes this incident: G2.4 - Value of Life
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Keep this short and simple.

Ballas were actively looking for cutlass around the city when we stumbled upon 2 individuals.

The clip speaks for itself..

Simply asked for demands for ID to put his hands up and stop running, which he did not comply with.

ID 47 was clearly outnumbered and at a disadvantage in this situation, but did not value his life.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/iJWP9W6roJJklYzug/d1337DgXH92t?invite=cr-MSxvbVMsMTIyOTIxOTg5LA
 
You hastily pulled up on me and Roger while we are sat doing bins, I watched Roger get gunned down and i feared for my life, i took the chance to preserve my life as i didn't want the same outcome as roger, having just processed my bins partner get gunned down i had a lot of stuff going on in my mind, you were the only person in my sight line with a gun pointed at me so i took the chance to make a run for the water as i thought as i got around that corner I'd have made it far enough to get to the water, I felt like i had no time to comply to the demands being given to me, to me it was shoot first RP later, I was already in motion and tried to make a break for the water to swim as far away as i can. I complied with your initial demands to buy time for me to run around the corner and make a run for it.
 
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I watched Roger get gunned down and i feared for my life
Roger didn’t comply. He instead tried to pull a gun out knowing he was also at a disadvantage. Wouldn’t it make sense for you to comply with demands if you feared for your life? At the end of the day I’m here to roleplay. Which is why I gave you ample opportunity to stop but you didn’t. You carried on. If anything, shouldn’t witnessing roger get shot make your character more anxious of this happening to you?
to me it was shoot first RP later
pretty heavy accusation considering we didn’t gun you down at the same time Rodger had pulled the weapon. We actually gave you an opportunity to live which you chose not to.

Not to also mention you had a lot of time to process what was going on. It took a good 30 seconds for the chat to finish with roger whilst you were sat in the car. You could clearly see yourself at a disadvantage being outnumbered.
 
Hello @Martt,

Are you only reporting the second person (ID 47), not "Roger" too? If so, how come? Primarily this confuses me: "Roger didn’t comply. He instead tried to pull a gun out knowing he was also at a disadvantage."
 
Hello @Martt,

Are you only reporting the second person (ID 47), not "Roger" too? If so, how come? Primarily this confuses me: "Roger didn’t comply. He instead tried to pull a gun out knowing he was also at a disadvantage."
Hi @Scott

Hope your doing well?

The first person in the clip I wasn’t able to identify. Without a session ID or Name. (He could have given me a random name)

I’ve recently had a report declined due to not having an ID. Therefore I didn’t report ‘roger’.

However, now that the name has been mentioned and I am able to identify ‘roger’ from cutlass, then I’m more than happy to report both.
 
I'm doing well, thank you.

In future, it's always worth including those who you're reporting, even if you can't identify them in the off-chance staff can or the reported player(s) come forward, it's not a guarantee we will be able to identify them however.

Moving onto the report;


It begins with Roger against 3 (4) Ballas, initially, I didn't believe Roger was Cutlass until the reporter said "Say fuck Cutlass" and Roger seemed apprehensive to say it, and shortly after pulling a pistol & attempting to engage the visibly armed Ballas members. This goes poorly for Roger. There is an argument of 'taking a chance', however, I disagree in this context that this could be a justifiable argument, Roger can see 3 armed Ballas, with a 4th behind a vehicle with his partner John (Macca) inside. Roger may have incapacitated one or two of them, but incapacitating all four is something any reasonable & realistic person would see as unachievable, a decisive loss, especially with his partner John in a vehicle unprepared or even armed with a gun. In this context, this is a breach of G2.4 (NVL).

The video then moves on to John who raises his hands immediately, I imagine to show he's not a threat after witnessing the shooting of his partner, and sprints away. There were clear directions not to run away and for John to surrender, he chose not to. Macca states this is due to him only seeing one gun aimed at him, where he decided to run and dart to the nearest escape spot, the water.

Macca also states; "I felt like i had no time to comply to the demands being given to me, to me it was shoot first RP later" as a reason for his sprint away from his armed assailants. I disagree with this, once their focus on Roger concluded, they shifted to John & with the tension being escalated the directive was clear, surrender yourself or face the same fate. They gave you ample chance to surrender, but you continued running away trying to reach cover, this is a silly move, had you been literally beside the water and dived in, I could agree with your assessment of the situation & decision made, but you were the furthest away from water that you could've been (give or take), and sprinted in the wrong direction. See image (link):
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The blue dot is where John was incapacitated, unless your character believes they're (and is) the flash, there's not a chance it would've worked. It seems quite clear that here, faced against unwinnable odds, you chose to not surrender for what? I'm not quite sure why, but regardless, in this context, your actions are a breach of G2.4 (NVL).

Roger also isn't aware they were reported, and thus unable to give an account for his actions and I've considered this in the outcome.

Action Taken - Report Approved

Char ID: 79716
Rulebreak(s): G2.4
Action:
Warning

Char ID: 104640
Rulebreak(s): G2.4
Action:
Warning
 
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