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Report a player - Cutlass (307, 458, 451, 333, 481, 364, 395, 353) - GTA RP

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Omar Farrell

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Location
The Desert
Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Omar Farrell
Reported Players: Cutlass (307, 458, 451, 333, 481, 364, 395, 353)
Date: Oct 1, 2024
Time: 20:30
What best describes this incident: RDM
Please (in detail) describe the incident: I had logged in on my Ballas character, drove to the petrol station to refuel my car, and was shot randomly by a Cutlass on the roof opposite. No interactions had been made between Cutlass and Ballas today, so the clip will speak for itself. #DoubleStandards

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I can't help but notice the repeated use of "#DoubleStandards". This makes me question the legitimacy of this report. Do you truly believe a rule has been broken or are you simply trying to "get your own back" following a recent report placed on your gang?

On the day of this "alleged" rule-break, me and one more member of cutlass were by benny's when a member of your gang pulled up and hostile words were exchanged, to which a shot was fired. I then radioed to other members of my gang and made them aware and asked them to come and provide help. Around two minutes later a convoy of armed cutlass members arrived and after we drove from the bridge a convoy of ballas drove towards us and a firefight between the two gangs erupted. You were looking for us and we were looking for you and I feel because you lost on this occasion its left you feeling displeased.

A message in OOC to liase or simply asking me to clip my POV would have been more appropriate than "WTF CUTLASS" as this kind of complaining in OOC is becoming common and staff have warned members of Ballas about it on multiple occasions.

While we're here, its funny you talk about Roleplay when you've modified your game to gain an advantage as you can see in your own clip you've provided. (Loud Footsteps, Gun Sounds and Aggressive re-shade Frag Pack). Don't you feel this ruins your immersion?

Also in the second clip, I noticed at around 1:57 as you're about to get into your car a racial slur can be heard, specifically the 'N' word. I'm not trying to redirect the report by mentioning this but surely by now you'd realise such language can offend people regardless of weather it's used directly or indirectly.

I'm more than happy to assist staff with any further queries.
 
Hello @Ant Toe,

I can't help but notice the repeated use of "#DoubleStandards". This makes me question the legitimacy of this report. Do you truly believe a rule has been broken or are you simply trying to "get your own back" following a recent report placed on your gang?
Yes, I did use #DoubleStandards because I genuinely feel that some members of Cutlass prioritize winning at any cost, even if it means breaking immersion by shooting on sight without any interaction. We both know that since no official war rules have been set, we are required to follow the established roleplay standards and ensure a high-quality experience. Not just sit away on a roof, say nothing, and shoot.

At the end of the day, I personally thought that this was a clear rule break and reported it, that's what the forums are for.

On the day of this "alleged" rule-break, me and one more member of cutlass were by benny's when a member of your gang pulled up and hostile words were exchanged, to which a shot was fired. I then radioed to other members of my gang and made them aware and asked them to come and provide help. Around two minutes later a convoy of armed cutlass members arrived and after we drove from the bridge a convoy of ballas drove towards us and a firefight between the two gangs erupted. You were looking for us and we were looking for you and I feel because you lost on this occasion its left you feeling displeased.
Do you have any clips or evidence to support this? From the Ballas perspective, none of us had any interactions with Cutlass that day, which made the encounter feel completely random and poor.

A message in OOC to liase or simply asking me to clip my POV would have been more appropriate than "WTF CUTLASS" as this kind of complaining in OOC is becoming common and staff have warned members of Ballas about it on multiple occasions.
I would have reached out to liaise with you at that time, but I was in roleplay for the two hours afterwards.

While we're here, its funny you talk about Roleplay when you've modified your game to gain an advantage as you can see in your own clip you've provided. (Loud Footsteps, Gun Sounds and Aggressive re-shade Frag Pack). Don't you feel this ruins your immersion?
If you check again, you'll see that there are no modifications giving me an "unfair advantage", I only have custom gun sounds (no footsteps or any other sound changes) that I use because I found the default ones repetitive and boring. I play on a laptop in my living room, with settings turned down to ensure my game is able to run properly and I don't crash. There are no amplified colors from reshade either. I'm happy to provide pictures of everything if asked by staff, and I also don't run any additional background applications like Discord or even Wallpaper Engine while on RPUK for the same performance reasons.

Also in the second clip, I noticed at around 1:57 as you're about to get into your car a racial slur can be heard, specifically the 'N' word. I'm not trying to redirect the report by mentioning this but surely by now you'd realise such language can offend people regardless of weather it's used directly or indirectly.
I can't lie, I feel as if you are pulling at straws with this one. You hear Charlie (in the itali) end his sentence with no namers, then hear "Ballas neighbors" following that. This is a common saying within Ballas due to the gta lore.
 
said Nibbas its a running joke between friends get a grip not said anything to you so stop grasping at straws mate
 
also ant if someone drives past with in a club playing a song that has the N word in you going to cry and report it as people drive round in these cars with songs like that very often grow up please laughable to be honest
 
said Nibbas its a running joke between friends get a grip not said anything to you so stop grasping at straws mate
As I said above, I wanted to keep this report about this report but since we're on the topic, does this give everyone the right to run around using rhyming slang to disguise racial/offensive remarks? The word "nibbas" is a common synonym for the 'N' Word which I believe you knew the context hence why you used the synonym to disguise the actual word. Don't you understand why members of not just my gang, but the community as a whole could take offence?

also ant if someone drives past with in a club playing a song that has the N word in you going to cry and report it
No mate, I personally only use the forums when I feel a rule has been broken.

laughable to be honest
I don't see what is funny if I'm being honest?

I would have reached out to liaise with you at that time, but I was in roleplay for the two hours afterwards.
If you'd put a message in OOC to clip what had happened then I would've been able to ease your concerns but at the time there was no request from anyone from ballas to clip our POV or liase. Even a little message in group members letting me know you're caught up in roleplay and were willing to liase after then I'd have been more than happy.
 
As I said above, I wanted to keep this report about this report but since we're on the topic, does this give everyone the right to run around using rhyming slang to disguise racial/offensive remarks? The word "nibbas" is a common synonym for the 'N' Word which I believe you knew the context hence why you used the synonym to disguise the actual word. Don't you understand why members of not just my gang, but the community as a whole could take offence?
Well the difference is I’m not going round the community or going up to people I’m talking to a group of friends as a joke and your trying to deflect your clear RDM at the fuel station which this is ultimately about, I’d get it more if I came up to you and randomly said what l said with no context or inside joke


This is no different to earlier with brinks calling me to QE for calling him a batty and claims it’s offensive but I have a clip of him and Kash saying about my trousers looking like they are and I quote “some batty riders” so is it offensive or not make your minds up of what is and isn’t offensive, like other people are mentioning here about double standards

Is it the Cutlass rule you do what you want and cry if anyone does it back ?
 
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Well the difference is I’m not going round the community or going up to people I’m talking to a group of friends as a joke and your trying to deflect your clear RDM at the fuel station which this is ultimately about, I’d get it more if I came up to you and randomly said what l said with no context or inside joke
Racist "inside jokes" have no place here but I'm glad you owned up. Your continued slander on cutlass further strengthens my suspicions that this report is motivated by your "hate" towards us.

This is no different to earlier with brinks calling me to QE for calling him a batty and claims it’s offensive but I have a clip of him and Kash saying about my trousers looking like they are and I quote “some batty riders” so is it offensive or not make your minds up of what is and isn’t offensive, like other people are mentioning here about double standards
If you'd taken the time to ask for a liason then again, all could have been ironed out with kash and brinks, but since you didn't i'll educate you. Kash is half Jamaican, "batty riders" is a term used by Jamaicans to describe "extremely short shorts", so no it wasn't an attack on your sexuality nor was it homophobic. You even picked up on the fact they were making fun at your trousers. In cutlass we don't condone discrimination of any kind as we are a gang with multiple ethnic origins and expansive culture.

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Is it the Cutlass rule you do what you want and cry of anyone does it back ?
I don't know what your problem is with us but every interaction with you both in game and OOC is toxic and hateful. We are all here to have fun and shouldn't carry toxicity outside the game.
 
That’s homophobic and your gender identifying me as a woman I’m deeply insulted and hurt by this can you please refrain from speaking to me in a derogatory way
 
That’s homophobic and your gender identifying me as a woman I’m deeply insulted
At no point did anyone assume your gender? They were making fun of your clothing. What has tight trousers got to do with "gender identifying" or being "homophobic"?
I'm absolutely astonished at your blatant ignorance towards discrimination!

I also do not wish to speak to you further but will be happy to assist staff with any questions.
 
Ant shall we take a trip down memory lane watch this from 45 seconds and tell me what you hear

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like i said one rule for you one rule for another
 
Ant shall we take a trip down memory lane watch this from 45 seconds and tell me what you hear

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like i said one rule for you one rule for another

This month old footage has what bearing on THIS situation?

The only people posting should be the reporter with evidence, and the accused with their defence, and staff. The only other people posting to the report should be those with first-hand evidence, or who were directly involved in the incident and have evidence to hand.
 
This month old footage has what bearing on THIS situation?.
Hi Aiden

The bearing on this is the fact it’s a month old it doesn’t matter it’s a homophobic slur and surely shouldn’t have a timeframe, they claim to be a cultural group and don’t stand for such slurs which I got called to QE for by them for saying the same word?

And I’m bringing this up because the report is mainly for RDM and they are e clutching at straws saying I made a racial slur, also we are adults and playing a 18+ game and having a joke between friends is very different to going up to other members of the community calling them slurs or being homophobic like you can see in that clip that they obviously don’t find it offensive if they are able to say it to one another themselves, how can people find it offensive unless it’s been said directly to them, the fact they have sat there and had to bring me into it because I said something to my group of friends I find it very hypocritical

I find that this is becoming petty and tit for tat which i don’t want to be sat here reporting people I want to be enjoying my time on the server and creating roleplay for the community


I have not really got much more to say on this matter just if your gonna try pull me into this for having a joke with friends and not actually directing it at anyone purposely check yourselves out.

Cheers
 
I made a racial slur, also we are adults and playing a 18+ game and having a joke between friends is very different to going up to other members of the community calling them slurs or being homophobic like you can see in that clip that they obviously don’t find it offensive if they are able to say it to one another themselves, how can people find it offensive unless it’s been said directly to them
This is exactly what i mean about your ignorance towards racial discrimination, that language isn't funny so how could it be perceived as a joke? Also you posted a video on a public forum with thousands of members from all different backgrounds.
 
Hello @Omar Farrell ,

I have a question for you, with the IDs how did you acquire them?

I would like to also add this "#DoubleStandards" is extremely immature, keep it off of the platform thank you.

@Ant Toe , I would like to ask you a question regarding:

me and one more member of cutlass were by benny's when a member of your gang pulled up and hostile words were exchanged

Do you have a video of this?

@Jay Small , your attitude in this report has been very immature and salty, you say about "growing up" yet you are acting quite childish no? Practice what you preach.

said Nibbas its a running joke between friends get a grip not said anything to you so stop grasping at straws mate

So you say "Nibbas" as a running joke between friends? I do not think I have to explain why this is wrong on so many levels, rhyming a word with a racial slur to get a "pass" in saying it is highly inappropriate and racist.

The bearing on this is the fact it’s a month old it doesn’t matter it’s a homophobic slur and surely shouldn’t have a timeframe, they claim to be a cultural group and don’t stand for such slurs which I got called to QE for by them for saying the same word?

So why did you not report this when it happened? Why now have you decided to bring it up?
 
Do you have a video of this?
I don’t unfortunately as I wasn’t aware it was a problem until the report went up. As I said above I would’ve happily liased and clipped my POV if requested as I’d rather ease any concerns before it reached this far.
 
So why did you not report this when it happened? Why now have you decided to bring it up?


Hey Mark

The reason i didn't report this is because its none of my concern as it wasn't directed at anyone it was a few friends having a joke no-one was offended by it so what's the harm right i get it would be a issue if it was randomly spurted out to someone and they found it offensive but you would then hope they say something to you and ask not to do it again.


its not that im being immature or childish i have given a clip of my pov to the rdm accusation made by Omar, and i find it frustrating that the attention gets drawn to me for a comment i have made between friends we are all adults and know what we can say around eachother, its no different to what people say ballas neighbours everyone knows what its insinuating but does that make it wrong? i have not directly said it to someone from cutlass and i fell they are trying to come back at me because a report that was put up against them.

so yes my apologies if i came across immature but it is frustrating that you cant play a game or do anything with out any little thing getting reported and sometimes people will come back with stupid remarks like i did all i can do is hold my hands up for acting immature in the moment and wont do it again.


Like i said my intentions was not to go out and offend anyone, which i didn't from the group im with as you can see that as no one other than cutlass steered the narrative toward me, was i wrong and did i cross a line maybe yes i did, what can i do moving forward is not make a joke like this again, but i have not made this joke to other people in the community or even thought about it, no different to the 2 guys in that video making a joke between one another someone may find it offensive if said to them but because they are friends they know its all in jest.

all i can do is apologise for that mistake, and thanks for your time in reading my response
 
Right thank you both for the response @Ant Toe & @Jay Small and thank you @Omar Farrell for putting in the report.

With what I am seeing in the evidence provided is that there was no role-play was provided before this whole shootout occurred from the video providing as much context as possible from logging in.

What I will say is I am highly disappointed as a whitelisted gang I expect to see more than just shoot on sight, I expect to see more tactical play and not just unleashing bullets on the other side...

I expect after this report that the parties involved think about their place on the server whether it is to just shoot or to actually offer a role-play experience of a standard expected for a whitelisted gang.

With that being said I will be
accepting this report as the videos speak for themselves.

Action taken -


Boofy Shmu - Permanent ban - G1.2
Autumn Lestrange - 1 day - G1.2
Luke Gambino - Permanent ban - G1.2
Ant Toe - 2 day ban - G1.2
John Wittenberry - 2 day ban - G1.2
Genna Brinks - Permanent ban - G1.2
Roger Cashmore - Warning - G1.2
Theo West - 1 day ban - G1.2


Now onto you @Jay Small , even if this was said between friends this sort of behavior is not welcomed on RPUK... even if it was not in this video and a staff member or another user saw this and reported, it'd end in the same way as I think everyone knows this type of behavior is not acceptable by any means.

Action taken -


Jay Small - Permanent ban - C1.2 Discrimination
 
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