Report a Player - Big Poppa - RDM (Rejected)

[thewarir]

Your In-game name

thewarir

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

Big Poppa

Date of the incident

05/15/2017

Time of the incident (GMT)

7

What best describes this incident ?

RDM

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1

Please (in detail) describe the incident

Pretty much, we had a reason to believe that i was shot from outside the red zone into the red zone. We asked for proof that he was inside the red zone and he refused and said he did not want to show me, only an admin. So i asked an admin and he said it was pretty fishy for him to say this, by then he had left the ts server so i was advised to take it to the forums and sort it out here. (May i also include that Ryan Elliott is involved in this case and to allow him to comment on this post when needed.)

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JqcKXOoD0M&feature=youtu.be
This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

No

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 

[Big Poppa]

I was in the red zone.  I have already shown my video to an admin and can disclose to any other admin should they wish to see it.

Both him and Ryan also know this. Furthermore this report was filed after Ryans attitude over teamspeak was not appreciated and ended up being the reason why any friendly terms between my gang and this gang were terminated.  Prior to this conversation over teamspeak, we were allied, therefore I believe this report itself is a revenge report.

Finally I'd like to know why this person is not recording his own audio while he is downed.

 

[R y]

I was in the red zone.  I have already shown my video to an admin and can disclose to any other admin should they wish to see it.

Both him and Ryan also know this. Furthermore this report was filed after Ryans attitude over teamspeak was not appreciated and ended up being the reason why any friendly terms between my gang and this gang were terminated.  Prior to this conversation over teamspeak, we were allied, therefore I believe this report itself is a revenge report.

Finally I'd like to know why this person is not recording his own audio while he is downed.

I would completely agree with you about it being a revenge report, but it wasnt my choice it was an admins. Stop trying to get us banned when it is you that is possibly in the wrong. Can i have the name of the admin you showed the video to?

 

[Big Poppa]

I would completely agree with you about it being a revenge report, but it wasnt my choice it was an admins. Stop trying to get us banned when it is you that is possibly in the wrong. Can i have the name of the admin you showed the video to?

The conversation we had over teamspeak I clearly told you guys that if I were to show you guys my video, you would know that I am in the redzone and you would also then know one of the locations I like to use.  Because I did not want to show you my location I told you that I would happily show it to an admin.  For you to then go to an Admin and not clarify this point, does make it fishy.

However I'm glad that you are clarifying the fact that this report is a Revenge report.  Saying it's an admin who told you to do it is not an excuse.

7. Reports to ban

• Anyone creating false evidence, posting a revenge report, editing the evidence to make the accused look guilty, or knowingly providing false information on a report will end up getting banned themselves.
  

So you see, it is you guys who are trying to get me banned.  That would be the reason we're here right...or are we just having a debate? because we did that on teamspeak.

 

[R y]

The conversation we had over teamspeak I clearly told you guys that if I were to show you guys my video, you would know that I am in the redzone and you would also then know one of the locations I like to use.  Because I did not want to show you my location I told you that I would happily show it to an admin.  For you to then go to an Admin and not clarify this point, does make it fishy.

However I'm glad that you are clarifying the fact that this report is a Revenge report.  Saying it's an admin who told you to do it is not an excuse.

7. Reports to ban

• Anyone creating false evidence, posting a revenge report, editing the evidence to make the accused look guilty, or knowingly providing false information on a report will end up getting banned themselves.
  

So you see, it is you guys who are trying to get me banned.  That would be the reason we're here right...or are we just having a debate? because we did that on teamspeak.

At what point did i, create false evidence? Post a revenge report? Edit evidence to make you look guilty? Provide false information? I haven't once, i simply would just like to know if you were inside the red zone, its pretty simple... 

 

[Big Poppa]

Ryan, I don't know why I'm talking to you to begin with.  In the video Warir posted starting at 11min 05sec you state that you want to talk to me on Teamspeak because "I'm really good at getting out of stuff" and you are talking to him about both of you coming but where you will do most of the talking...you came alone and you destroyed any relationship my gang had with those guys.  To be fair we actually liked them and my gang members have been helping them get settled in the community and guide them, but you decided to come alone and you refered to me as being childish.

The end result was I revoked our alliance pact and we crushed the heli.  Maybe it would be best if Warir communicated with us as even though we have a language barier, we still had an understanding.

 I also told you to get an admin so we can show the admin our proof.  You were adamant that you had to see the evidence, to which I declined.  You know the reasons as we discussed them.  I'm not going to continue talking to you here as you are not actually involved.

If Warir wants to talk then I'll respond to him, however I will no longer be responding to you as you are a problem more than a solution.  Let the admins decide the rest.

 

[R y]

Ryan, I don't know why I'm talking to you to begin with.  In the video Warir posted starting at 11min 05sec you state "I'm really good at getting out of stuff" and you are talking to him about both of you coming but where you will do most of the talking...you came alone and you destroyed any relationship my gang had with those guys.  To be fair we actually liked them and my gang members have been helping them get settled in the community and guide them, but you decided to come alone and you refered to me as being childish.

The end result was I revoked our alliance pact and we crushed the heli.  Maybe it would be best if Warir communicated with us as even though we have a language barier, we still had an understanding.

 I also told you to get an admin so we can show the admin our proof.  You were adamant that you had to see the evidence, to which I declined.  You know the reasons as we discussed them.  I'm not going to continue talking to you here as you are not actually involved.

If Warir wants to talk then I'll respond to him, however I will no longer be responding to you as you are a problem more than a solution.  Let the admins decide the rest.

I said i am good at getting out of stuff, this is not an issue for me i was talking in general. I will be helpful to people who want to be and im trying to help a friend as there is a language barrier. This could have just been a lot easier if you just showed me the video, and about the ally, you had destroyed it before this situation. And i did get an admin, however you had left the TS server so we couldnt talk this out as you just disappeared, which was when i was advised to take it to the forums, ask the admin, not a revenge.

 

[Big Poppa]

For the benefit of staff reviewing this:  I was on TS for over an hour discussing this very topic.  I then had to leave and I told Ryan to find an admin and I would show my evidence.  I remained active on the game server for a further 5 to 6 hours between which I was never contacted to come back to TS.  If I had I would have returned.
I then did found an admin myself and showed my evidence.  I believe that admins notes will be included in this thread.

 

[R y]

For the benefit of staff reviewing this:  I was on TS for over an hour discussing this very topic.  I then had to leave and I told Ryan to find an admin and I would show my evidence.  I remained active on the game server for a further 5 to 6 hours between which I was never contacted to come back to TS.  If I had I would have returned.
I then did found an admin myself and showed my evidence.  I believe that admins notes will be included in this thread.

We couldnt find you but if you say so thats ok, id just like to see an admins review of it.

 

[Madmatt150]

Right, to put a few things to rest

1)

Revoking a gang allegiance then a report placed on a gang member is not classed as a revenge report.

2)

The video provided by the accused shows that he was inside the res zone when the shots were fired

3) 

I honestly don't know why this was brought to the report stage, as soon as the admin looked at Big Poppa's video it should have been sorted there and then and should have never been brought here.

Report rejected.