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Report a player - 908 - Michael Washington(?) - GTA RP

KiloC

KiloC

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Los Santos Rangers

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Kenny Lake
Reported Players: 908 - Michael Washington(?)
Date: Aug 25, 2024
Time: 00:50
What best describes this incident: NVL, NLR
Please (in detail) describe the incident: After a fight between OCG and Cutlass, the downed members of OCG were taken to the dodgy doctor.

908 was revived by the dodgy doctor and refused to comply with the demand of disarming himself while at an obvious disadvantage.

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- This clip shows 908 being revived at dodgy and refusing to comply with demands.

908 was then relocated and continued his antics. After eventually dropping his gun, he begins attacking those gathered around him and is shot dead as a result.

CLIP 2)
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- This clip shows 908 failing to value his life. Not following demands and eventually attacking the armed members of Cutlass around him, resulting in him dying.
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Yo mate hope all is well i would like to start off by saying you put in a message in OOC saying you wanted to go QE so i did after the situation, we was in QE for about 5-10mins waiting for you guys to come QE but didn't show up.... We put messages in OOC saying if you guys still want to QE which we didn't get any response to. I would've loved to talk this out through QE but is what it is.

But anyways, I believe this isn't NVL at all, just because i was taking my time dropping the items doesn't mean i NVL'd, i was getting under your guys skin which clearly worked out and you had enough so you zipped me and put me in the car. At the second location is the same thing, i was taking my time dropping the items. I ain't refusing to comply i still ended up dropping all of my items just not in a very quick manner. I do also think that this is a very "win mentality " actions you guys did, it seemed like you just wanted to rob me and dip without any RP after robbing me. After dropping all of my things i punched you guys because its very obvious what you was going to do after just like any cutlass does( shoots you, puts you in a boot of a car and dumps the car in the ocean). I do truly believe your RP could have been better, after killing a member of OCG ( Tyrone Richardson ) you left him in the boot throughout the whole shootout and even at the dodgy, he was sat in the boot for a minimum of 30mins without any RP provided to him... So yeah i do think your RP could've been WAY better.

Once again, I'm still willing to QE if these amazing role-players would like to as well. :)
 
(G2.4) - At all times you are to value your life, if you are clearly outnumbered or at an obvious disadvantage you should comply with demands.

You say your reasoning was to get under our skin but that doesn't scream valuing your life to me. Intentionally winding up and then attacking an armed group that are aiming firearms at you doesn't seem like the smartest decision in that scenario.

You were clearly outnumbered, you were at an obvious disadvantage and you didn't value your life or comply with demands.

At what point does delaying become not valuing your life? Would another minute have been acceptable, five, an hour if you eventually comply with the demand?
 
Once again i was complying with your demands, i was stalling time, at the end you still received what you wanted, and i am going to say again, i punched you so at least i could have some roleplay afterwards but clearly you decided to be trigger happy and shoot me but its whatever, you are in cutlass what else am i supposed to expect. (G2.4) - At all times you are to value your life, if you are clearly outnumbered or at an obvious disadvantage you should comply with demands. As you can see nothing says about me not being able to stall time, I was complying and in the end you achieved what you wanted.

I also can tell that you have avoided a few things in my first response, how come? Is it because it's true or is it something else? I will say this one last time, If you are still willing to go to QE i am all in for it, at least you can let me know instead of completely ignoring it.
 
The rule is pretty clear cut in my opinion.

AT ALL TIMES.

I initially asked you to liaison at the end of the first clip. You were then relocated, continue to not listen to simple demands and then ended up getting yourself killed by attacking multiple armed people holding you at gunpoint. To which I thought it was no longer necessary.

I haven't responded to most of your points because they don't make sense to me. Cutlass is renowned for letting people live after situations so that the story line can continue. You're claiming that the RP provided wasn't good enough but you were the person that delayed us being able to continue with the scene with your rule breaks as you failed to comply with simple demands.

Your thoughts were: "They're not going to give me any roleplay so I'll break rules and attack them instead." - There are avenues you can take to remedy these concerns, not bring those OOC opinions in-game and disrupt roleplay as a result.

You were stalling to what end? To "get under our skin" by using a game mechanic knowing that we're unable to disarm you.

At what point does stalling become not valuing your life? I personally think your actions are a bad precedent to set on the server.

For the sake of simplicity, I'll summarize where I think the rule breaks occurred: You had multiple guns pointed at you and you didn't comply with the many demands to disarm yourself so I believe that to be NVL. You broke NLR timer and started attacking those around you while at an obvious disadvantage which I also believe to be NVL.

I don't want the attention being diverted from the report so let's focus on that please.
 
"I initially asked you to liaison at the end of the first clip" But yet again you didn't show up. I was listening to your instructions pretty clearly as i did end up dropping the Rev. Me delaying yous shouldn't matter about your RP towards us. "Cutlass is renowned for letting people live" i believe that that's completely not true as every time you guys interact with me especially you end up doing the same thing over and over again. I also never said that me punching you guys is going to give me more RP, i did it because i knew what's exactly is going to happen. "Not bring those OOC opinions in-game" None of what i have said is OOC opinion, its the truth and you have to accept it. If its a game mechanic and its given to me as a option to use however i want then i don't see the problem. If there was a problem with me stalling your time wouldn't there be a rule about it no? I also believe that this isnt NVL because if it was to a be NVL I would've pulled out my rev and started shooting yous, but didn't. I ended up dropping the rev and that's what you wanted.

You also say that you don't want the attention to be diverted, how come? Is it because you know that you did something wrong and don't want to admit it or is it something else?

I am going to ask one last time and that's it! Do you want to QE or no its a simple question it shouldn't take you 2 days to answer it.
 
I don't believe a liaison will remedy this situation as we clearly disagree with what the rule entails. I think staff input will be helpful to clarify on whether these were rule breaks.

Do you believe you were valuing your life when you punched armed members of Cutlass that had firearms pointed at you recently after being revived at dodgy doctor?

"I knew what would happen." Is an OOC opinion and hence impacted your ability to roleplay.

"You also say that you don't want the attention to be diverted, how come? Is it because you know that you did something wrong and don't want to admit it or is it something else?"

Because staff have made it clear across multiple reports to be concise and talk about the contents of the report so that they don't have to read a bunch of unnecessary or invaluable information.
 
How is me talking about your RP not necessary or invaluable information? Its within this report and you can see it yourself with your clips.

I am going to let staff takeover so i ain't going to bother reply anymore unless staff wants me to, because clearly we aren't going anywhere with this are we Kenny.
 
I'm happy to leave this to the staff as we clearly disagree and it would be helpful to have their input.

I have no problem answering questions if staff have any regarding this situation.
 
Michael Washington said:
Once again, I'm still willing to QE if these amazing role-players would like to as well. :)
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I find it incredible that you are making this claim after the videos I just watched.... Wow, I suggest you purchase a mirror.

Honestly, at this stage, NVL or not, this is just trolling and shit RP. Take a few days out and decide if you are here for the right reasons or not.

Report Accepted
Michael Washington - C1.10/G2.4 - 7 day ban
 
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