Report a player - 683 - GTA RP

[Martle]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Roman Johnson
Reported Players: 683
Date: Oct 18, 2024
Time: 23:00
What best describes this incident: RDM
Please (in detail) describe the incident: So I woke up after bleeding out from a previous situation. After this I woke up and was stood in my house for a bit, about 20 minutes or so as I had to type roleplay to stay active I was taking a break. Before I left the house I heard there was something going on, so I headed over to see if I could help and pick some mara up couldn't hear anyone on radio any gun fire and didn't see any grove when I arrived I then came across one mara took him pill box and went back to look for more. I found 2 more had them in the car at this point I saw a grove car wasn't sure if it was actually grove as the person in the car wasn't in gang colours, also I could hear police sirens, so this gave me the sense of safety, then he approached me and asked who I was I responded with who are u then he rams me and am like why u ramming me I start driving towards the police didn't know they were down, but I guess they were. Then I get rammed again and shot. I wasn't told to leave mara I had behind and leave b4 I get shot. Nothing. He said in ooc that he was on whisper, but there were 4 or 5 grove cars around he was too quick to react anyone of them could have told me to leave, I don't feel this is a good enough excuse. They could've disabled my car and spoke 2 me as I wasn't in the fastest of cars but nope,
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/iUgerEde2ksCkf4uO?invite=cr-MSxzU2IsMTY4MzI3MDQ3LA

 

[Gibson]

Hello Staff.


I have dm' Roman via Discord (with his permission) and we're trying to clear up the situation there.

Will continue on the forums, if he is unhappy with what is said. Will keep you updated.

 

[Gibson]

Unsure where to start here, we could have easily resolved this OOC, but it seems you want to do it the unnecessary way.

As it is known, marabunta and grove are actively fighting due to some conflict. With this, terms have been set including KOS when fighting. (I AM AWARE THAT I MUST STILL PLAY BY SERVER RULES, i have added this for context only)

You have reported me due to me killing you, after I saw you scooping marabunta bodies. I spoke to you, and had asked "whos this" which you reply with "who are you" Which during an active situation, where you were scooping marabunta, had left me confused and i was led to believe you was marabunta, which you are.

What makes you think, in an active situation (or what we believed to be one, as we had still seen 2 members up) You can get away with scooping marabunta bodies. You proceed to swerve out of the way of grove cars as you're driving off, and I had shot you as i didn't want you getting away, saving the Marabunta member. I had also shot you because I was wasn't sure if you had a gun, in the situation, i could've came up to you and you could've freely shot me as you're marabunta.

I had tried to speak to you before, but as you know i was whispering which was a complete mistake on my end. I had apologised to you in OOC, and had taken you to pillbox as it was a genuine mess up on my end. Ultimately I thought the issue was over, as you didn't call me to OOC after I had dropped you off.

I feel as if you're clutching at straws here, I admit, it was a mess of me not to continue shouting which is why i didnt get a response earlier. However, you're also Marabunta, saving Marabunta during a shootout between 2 groups.

You don't seem fussed on sorting it via OOC either, which is a shame, however we shall see what happens.

 

[Martle]

As it is known, marabunta and grove are actively fighting due to some conflict. With this, terms have been set including KOS when fighting. (I AM AWARE THAT I MUST STILL PLAY BY SERVER RULES, i have added this for context only)

You have reported me due to me killing you, after I saw you scooping marabunta bodies. I spoke to you, and had asked "whos this" which you reply with "who are you" Which during an active situation, where you were scooping marabunta, had left me confused and i was led to believe you was marabunta, which you are.

KOS in Colours. I wasn't in colours, and I was in a local. Yes, you're right, I was mara (But you only know this now due to talking with me in DMs), but I had nothing on me for you to 100% know I was mara. So you could have hands me and searched me, told me to leave mara behind and leave or took me hostage, but you took the quick option and shot me. Yes, you told me u were whispering yes mistakes happened but if you wasn't too quick to shoot then u may have realized your mistake but from when u seen me to shooting me was 20 seconds there was also 4 or 5 of you I wasn't going anywhere quick in the car I was driving.

What makes you think, in an active situation (or what we believed to be one, as we had still seen 2 members up) You can get away with scooping marabunta bodies. You proceed to swerve out of the way of grove cars as you're driving off, and I had shot you as i didn't want you getting away, saving the Marabunta member. I had also shot you because I was wasn't sure if you had a gun, in the situation, i could've came up to you and you could've freely shot me as you're marabunta.

That active situation would only apply to none gang members, I have every right to be there to try to save my boys, there are Alway random people scooping body in war, I have seen it many times. So when I first saw you, you were in a grove car, but you want wearing grove colours, so I wasn't 100% sure who u were it could have been a random person I only knew once I heard u say on radio saying someone is scooping mara then I knew u were grove. As I was heading to turf, I knew a fight was happening as I heard it over the radio but as I was making my way to turf I wasn't getting any reply from anyone, so I put my weapons away knowing it probably wouldn't be the best idea if I was the only one fighting. So I thought I would try saving some of my gang members out of colours. I got to turf, found one I didn't see any active grove driving or running around the first time and knew police was on turf, took him to pillbox. So with not seeing any grove the first time and knowing police were there (didn't know they were downed) I felt it was safe to return the 2nd time. And when I did see u and u questioned me I drove towards the police for safety but when I realized they wasn't anywhere 2 be seen I started driving then was shot. There were 4 or 5 of you if I had a gun, it wouldn't have been smart of me to try shooting you, would it. With 4 or 5 of you, u had the means to allow time question me search me tell me to leave take me but nope.

As a white list gang, your PR should be better than most. You didn't allow time to rectify your mistake, if you did, we wouldn't be here 20 secs of RP isn't cutting it IMO.

That all I have to say on the matter, if staff would like me to answer any questions then I will reply.

 

[Gibson]

Yes, you're right, I was mara (But you only know this now due to talking with me in DMs)

No i had assumed you was mara in game, because you are scooping mara, mid situation.

KOS in Colours. I wasn't in colours, and I was in a local.

Picking up marabunta in a gunfight situation.

I had shot you ultimately because you hadnt responded to me, proceeded to swerve grove cars, and I'm not taking any risks during a fight.

That active situation would only apply to none gang members, I have every right to be there to try to save my boys

Which im going to prevent you from doing???

I put my weapons away knowing it probably wouldn't be the best idea if I was the only one fighting

Isn't this combat storing lmao.


I guess we'll leave it up to staff, seeming you want to be a child. I had made an honest mistake, which i apologised for, and you still want to push for a ban? (Although it wasn't really RDM to begin with)
Also seems pretty ironic how this report came straight out after your members had been banned, feels like a bit of a revenge report, as you're ultimately clutching at straws.

if staff would like me to answer any questions then I will reply

Or you could be a mature adult and continue to respond on here, just a suggestion though.

 

[Bonzi]

Hello.

Gonna jump in here to prevent this turning into a novel for staff to read.

This report isn't the place for you both to chat/argue/whatever back and forth. Please stay on topic, and only reply if you have actual context/evidence to add to the report. Think - is what you're going to say/add going to be valuable to staff in anyway? If you're not sure, then it probably isn't worth adding!

seeming you want to be a child.

Wind in comments like these please, or you'll find yourself forum restricted.

 

[Gibson]

Wind in comments like these please, or you'll find yourself forum restricted.

Apologies Bonzi.

 

[Martle]

This will be my last reply.

No i had assumed you was mara in game, because you are scooping mara, mid situation.

So this means you would have shot anyone scooping body's. I didn't hear one gunshot when I was there if I did I would have never tried.

Isn't this combat storing lmao.

I wasn't involved in a shootout in this situation. Gotta be in combat to combat store.

I guess we'll leave it up to staff, seeming you want to be a child. I had made an honest mistake, which i apologised for, and you still want to push for a ban? (Although it wasn't really RDM to begin with)
Also seems pretty ironic how this report came straight out after your members had been banned, feels like a bit of a revenge report, as you're ultimately clutching at straws.

In the original report I say I was in and out of my head as I was working on the other report i did when I was at my house. Not the quickest in the world when typing. I had already started on this report b4 the other report u claim am taking revenge on was accepted.

That's all.

 

[Gibson]

So this means you would have shot anyone scooping body's. I didn't hear one gunshot when I was there if I did I would have never tried.

No mate, I would speak to them. Which I did with NSC, who was fully compliant with me and left.

I had tried to speak to you, I was whispering, so that is why you didn't hear me. Which I apologized for, and had taken you to pillbox, as it was a genuine fk up on my end.

You also avoided my question, when i had asked "whos this" or you had replied in a weird manner to say. You also proceeded to swerve grove cars, and as you were trying to leave with a marabunta body I had shot you.

Again, I didn't realise that I was whispering and it was a complete accident. But ultimately you're scooping marabunta during what I believed to still be an active gunfight, as I was told there was still 1/2 marabunta floating about.

I'm unsure why you would try and scoop bodies during and think you'd get away with it anyway.

Just a tad bit confused on why you won't take my apology. It was a genuine mistake, that i'll say again, had apologized for and taken care of in game.

In the original report I say I was in and out of my head as I was working on the other report i did when I was at my house. Not the quickest in the world when typing. I had already started on this report b4 the other report u claim am taking revenge on was accepted.

Ramsays report goes through, and this one pops up soon after. I'm not saying this is a revenge sort of report, its just a bit coincidental.

I wasn't involved in a shootout in this situation. Gotta be in combat to combat store.

My fault, I had misread what you had said.

 

[Slawek]

Hello everyone,
I think here we have 2 big questions to answer, first is if this was an active firefight, second is can you kill someone picking up a body.

Let's start with the first one, i've checked some logs and yes, it's clear to me that the situation was active. With a minute or 2 of Roman being killed other marabunta are killed in the area aswell, so yes, it was an active situation.

Now the second question, if you can just kill anyone picking up bodies etc in a firefight. Before we consider this let's remind ourselves of a few things. We are here to RP, that should be the main focus, not winning a firefight, tho of course we all will want to win, but we have to remember that we have to make it fun for the other side aswell. Here we see 2 whitelisted gangs, gangs which are meant to be shining examples of RP that can be provided to other, non-whitelisted gangs. What i see in this clips however is just fragger mentality, cutting down every possible corner just to get a kill, grove had 4 cars there against a pretty basic local vehicle. You had all the advantage you can ask for to try to get some RP going, box the vehicle in, ram it a bit, sure, this would make sense, but then actually provide some RP, kidnap him to interrogate him or what not. Instead all that was said is "who is this" and shortly after shots were fired. This is something i hate to see from whitelisted gangs, remember, you are not the basic gang, you are a whitelisted gang, you are meant to provide high quality RP that should be the example for others to follow, as stated by yourself in the unban appeal. This is anything but that.

Action taken:
683 - G1.2 - 1 Day Ban