Report a player - 491, 643 - GTA RP

[Cryption]

Report a player 

Your In-game Name: Harold Reese

Name and/or ID of the player(s) you are reporting: 491, 643

Which server did the incident take place on: GTA RP

Date of the incident: 11/20/21

Time of the incident (GMT) 24hr Format: 200

What best describes this incident ?: NVL / Wearing police uniforms (?)

Please (in detail) describe the incident: As seen in the clip below you can see we have taken two people hostage, one of which was downed, the other in zipties. After driving around for a short while you can see that we pull up to a place in which we pull them out the car. One of which got stuck stood up (the one that was downed) in which we left glitched in the car since he was unwilling to accept being picked up. We then tell the other person (the one in zipties) to get on his knees, with multiple warnings, and he proceeds to say "just shoot me honestly" and "shoot me pussy" which in my opinion is clear NVL as he is not valuing his life in the slightest.

Secondly, they were wearing police uniforms, I'm unsure if this is actually a rule break or not since it doesn't specify as such about police uniforms afaik but I know things like the aliens and having invisible body parts is a rule break. There were another two wearing police uniforms as well but I don't have their IDs.

I did not attempt to call the individual into TeamSpeak due to the fact that as soon as that situation had ended another had started so I didn't get chance to call them into TeamSpeak, not only this by the time the second situation was over it was about 3:30am and I was pretty much ready for bed, not in the mood to talk to individuals about rule breaks.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot):



https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/4SZ8NMfeyr5uc/tSbAaEHgr7xc?invite=cr-MSxvNTgsMjczNDYyMjQs



This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!: Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting: No

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans): Yes

 

[Nick Duncan]

Grasping at straws here. You told me that you were going to kill me, bragging about how I was a dead man. You can't expect someone to follow all of your demands when you've already informed him that he is dead no matter what he does. [SIZE=1rem]I also don't know why ID 643 was reported, he did nothing wrong.[/SIZE]
 
I also find it very rich that you are reporting me for NVL (bad rp) when your rp was substandard. Our conversations in the car amounted to me asking questions and you grunting and making incoherent noises. We attempted to resolve the situation through RP and make the situation enjoyable for both, you decided to ignore that and either say nothing or grumble at every attempted conversation and verbal interaction.

G7.1 Hostages must be roleplayed to a high quality, aim to make it enjoyable for everyone. The first thing you did to us was shoot my partner when we were complying and willing to cooperate and talk about it. After that your only interaction with us was when you informed us you were going to make this as painful and as difficult for us as possible.

As for the police "uniforms" it's an arrestable offence on the server: Police Act 1996, section 90. Anybody reading your report knows you are clutching at straws because you're OOC upset. Please try to keep things in rp.[SIZE=1rem] [/SIZE]
 

 

[Cryption]

I didn't actually say any of that, I was the driver of the vehicle, nor do I recall any of that being said, but it could be my bad memory. Regardless of if we say you're a dead man or not, you should still comply with orders to try and actually live. I've been involved in a couple situations where I've thought I was going to be killed and dumped, however, managed to RP myself out of that situation, you guys should've tried the same rather than saying "shoot me pussy" (unsure if that was you or the other one.), that type of thing isn't exactly good RP is it.

If I didn't say anything to you when you were speaking it's because as you can hear in the clip the radio was going nuts with another situation and I was paying attention to that more than I was you as by that point you had pissed both of us off and we weren't in the mood for a "chat" until we had reached the location where I stopped and dragged both individuals out of the vehicle.

Yes I tried to shoot him, but I didn't hit and probably good I didn't hit because it meant that the situation could be prolonged a bit more and, unfortunately, ended up in him deciding to say "shoot me pussy". If you had actually listened to the get on your knees, the situation would've lasted longer and there would've been a lot more RP provided but you didn't actually try to RP it out but instead NVL.

As for the police uniforms, I am unsure of if it is a server rule or not so I figured best include it just in case it is. If it isn't then no harm done, you won't be punished for that will you. The fact you think I'm upset OOC is funny, because honestly I could care less, was nice to actually get into a situation in the first place, and if I hadn't been involved in that situation the rest of the night would've been a lot more dull for me so I'm really not bothered by it.

If I didn't answer you in the car, you should probably take the hint that I'm either not able to hear you for other reasons (such as the radio), or the fact that I had something planned, which I did until you were unwilling to meet the demands I had given you. I'd also like to just say, I may not be the best RPer but I will definitely RP any situation out, especially if you give me the chance to do so, however, yesterday you did not unfortunately.

 

[ShadowDirector]

Going forward, id like to ask something of you @Cryption, would you like to sit in Teamspeak to possibly resolve the problem and come to some form of understanding from both sides? - I will be more than happy to sit in on the situation, or would you like to just go forwards with the report itself?

 

[Cryption]

@ShadowDirectorI can jump in Teamspeak if need be, however, I believe it is blatant rule break and it is of my understanding this individual has involvement with others that are known for breaking rules so I don't think there is a whole load to discuss, but I'm open to it.

 

[Nick Duncan]

I'd be open to resolving this in Teamspeak, however, the issue isn't black and white and certainly isn't a blatant rule break. You are clearly manipulating the rules and painting a picture to try and get someone punished because of a perceived slight against yourself. A little back story is necessary in this case. We tried to meet with you to resolve the situation in-game. I don't think you understand the whole reason me and my friend came to you in the first place. We came because we valued our lives and wished to resolve this matter peacefully before it escalated into something bigger.

I'm not looking to sling shit at each other but I would also like to point out your hypocrisy. This incident arose from an altercation on Marabunta turf. Someone looked in the boot of your vehicle and you got angry and decided to attack six people with a machete. You were killed and we left you to be taken to hospital. This should've been our first warning as to your standard of roleplay as attacking six individuals when you are one person is clearly in breach of G2.4.

We came across you later on and tried to resolve our disagreement peacefully. My friend initiated a respectful dialogue with you upon exiting his vehicle. You pulled a gun and he complied with all of your demands, conversed respectfully yet still got shot for it. He came to you to resolve a situation peacefully with high quality roleplay and got executed for it. This was the first red flag.

After my friend was executed with minimal roleplay me and his body got put in the back of your car and driven away. I attempted to solve the situation through dialogue like we originally planned to, after all, we came to you. Our verbal interaction didn't get anywhere because you weren't interested in a peaceful resolution. You told us we were dead men and that we had fucked up. You also alluded to the fact that you were going to make this a very painful and frustrating experience, failing to hide your ooc annoyance. This was the second red flag.

I have outlined three incidents where your regard for human life falls short. The first incident and red flag is the situation where my friend complied with all demands, didn't aggravate or escalate, and was still executed for it. The second interaction and red flag is the verbal discussion we had in the car where you outlined what was going to happen to us and how we were dead men. You cannot reasonably expect an individual to comply with silly demands when you have already demonstrated your lack of regard for human life on three separate occasions. The character knew he was dead no matter how he conducted himself from that point onwards.

I also don't appreciate the derogatory and petty comment you made. Everyone I associate with on the server has a clean record and they've never been given a punishment on the server for any misconduct.

 

[ShadowDirector]

Just wanted to check @Cryptionis that all the video evidence you have? Because if you have more evidence that could be of assistance Id like it to be posted here if possible 

 

[Cryption]

Apologies for the late response, unfortunately my shadowplay decided to stop working at the time so I had to use someone else's clip that was in the car with me so I don't have anything other than what's in the original post @ShadowDirector

 

[ShadowDirector]

Your report is currently being reviewed, Please be patient while the evidence is reviewed

Please keep checking this report regularly just in case the reviewing staff member has any questions

Thank you for your report and you doing your part to keep our community clean!

 

[ShadowDirector]

Okay let's get this show on the road, 

Player 491: So if a weapon is pointed at your head, you are expected to fear for your life and attempt to roleplay yourself out of it. Even if they had the intentions of killing you, you're still expected to roleplay the fear of losing your life not encouraging the shooters to end you. And then later thanking them for the deed as if it was a business exchange. In my opinion the Roleplay could have been a lot better.

PS: You was just shot, you should be roleplaying that your in pain, not shrugging it off and talking as if everything is normal.

Player 643: They simply refused an escort, other than that there really wasn't any demands given to them on film just an attempt to escort them. I don't have enough to form an opinion given there's insufficient evidence on them. Therefor they are to be left be for now.

1923 Will receive a  1 Week Ban for breaking - G2.4

Side Note​

I wanted to point out, that even if the situation was unenjoyable or you feel that the player is not performing High Quality RP in that situation, you are still expected to Roleplay it out to the highest of quality and if you disagree with the quality of that situation, talk about it once the RP situation is over. Try not let it effect the quality of your own RP and step down to the accused level I hope everyone learns something from this situation.​

 

[ShadowDirector]

Thank you for doing your part in keeping the community clean.

Your report has been approved and action has been taken against the reported player.

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