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Report a player - 2 firearms - GTA RP

edb0y8

edb0y8

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Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: THeo west
Reported Players: 2 firearms
Date: Apr 21, 2025
Time: 17:15
What best describes this incident: G2.4) Value of Life At all times you are to value your life, if you are clearly outnumbered or at an obvious disadvantage you should comply with demands.
Please (in detail) describe the incident: we are mid fight with hustlers as 2 firearms pull up. they decide to target a cutlass which then we tell them to leave as seen in the clip. I feel that there is plenty of time for our demand to get to them but get they ignore it. they ignore it and choose to run in the middle of a 15 man plus gunfight. they are clearly outnumbered. I do see this as them not valuing there life. they was aware there was shooting going on and were in mid fight so I feel there's a breach of common sense.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/k8jlUXEwVD4eM7kRY?invite=cr-MSxCbHgsMjAwOTU3Mzg5
 
@edb0y8 Do you happen to have a longer clip which provides 3-5 minutes prior, because currently the 30-second clip itself is insufficient as Im sure you are aware.

In addition to the above, have you attempted to resolve this before taking it to the forums as stated in the Wiki: Report a Player

Before making a report, we request that you attempt to solve the issue like adults. This can be done by politely asking the player to come to TeamSpeak or Discord through the use of the in-game out of character (OOC or LOOC) chat. Once in Teamspeak or Discord, you can attempt to solve the issue without getting Staff involved. While this is not mandatory, it is greatly encouraged and failure to do so can hinder your report.
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If you'd have asked us to come QE I wouldve been happy to discuss this and unfortunate that you've seen it necessary to report this.

We were alerted to two dispatches of shots fired in the area. Not indicative of the 15 person gunfight you claim.

On our arrival, we spoke to two hustlers who stated that they were just shot at by a pistol from someone down near the arcade, no description.

We head down there and see you and a female person running around in their underwear with no weapons (which imo is concerning in and of itself, who runs around in a fight in their pants?!)

We witness the male in black pull out a revolver and fire a shot, acting in our role as cops, make an armed intervention and point an assault rifle and submachine gun giving clear instructions of "armed police and stand still".

I'm then, as an armed, and armoured police officer, told by some random donny in his pants to "leave him", supposed to realistically listen to that instruction? I had not seen you with a weapon, we'd heard very few shots fired, we were looking for one guy with a gun.

In this scenario we were absolutely right to focus on the threat being your friend with the revolver and disregard your "advice" to leave him.

After this, a short gunfight ensues where you are downed by Tobias, the man with the rev is downed by me and there are at most 3 people left standing from your side.

I don't think this was NVL at all; but simply cops doing something that you aren't used to which is putting themselves in a fight to deal with the immediate risk. We valued our lives by concentrating on the threat at hand, we would've arguably been held to account for corruption for listening to the words of a naked man trying to tell police his friend didn't do anything despite having just seen him with a gun.

This'll be my only reply to the thread, thanks for taking the time to read, staff.
 
Hello Theo

Im sorry you felt the need to report this, as robert stated allready this could have easily ben solved with an QE. I don't really have much to add since Robert allready summerised it quite cleary what our thought process was here in this situation and i agree completly on his statement.

The only thing i would like to add is that the only (relatively speaking) hostile intercation we had with you guys was "leave him, leave him". I find it a bit schocking that you think this was more then enough RP/interaction to fire on us. A case for RDM/Fail RP comes to mind here

I wont be responding to this report any further unless staff has any more qeustions for me.
 
sorry I've been really busy.
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"I don't think this was NVL at all; but simply cops doing something that you aren't used to which is putting themselves in a fight to deal with the immediate risk"
just because you are a cop doesn't mean you can just run in between 2 gangs fighting and your life not be at danger. I would understand if there was more of you but just the 2 of you. did you expect to not get shot at when aiming a gun at a gang member while there's at least 3 others there and more around the corner.

"I'm then, as an armed, and armoured police officer"
you may be armoured but in this case it did not help you as we was also armed. I feel like as firearms you should read the situation better and understand what was going on. you get told were being shot at and you see us shooting also.

"On our arrival, we spoke to two hustlers who stated that they were just shot at by a pistol from someone down near the arcade"
you were clearly aware of an opposite gang gang around turf and shot being let off.

I know you said you wouldn't reply but can I ask what you realistically thought was going to be the outcome? for us all to put our hands up or for a gun fight to break out and you win?

Thank you staff for taking your time to go though this and sorry for the delay.
 
I think that you're intentionally misrepresenting the situation here and maybe misunderstand the NVL rule.

" clearly outnumbered or at an obvious disadvantage you should comply with demands"

At no point were we clearly outnumbered. You put your weapon away before we arrived and we had no way of knowing that you and the female were part of the same gang prior. My character has never met yours, nor did we converse. Am I supposed to be psychic?

You conveniently dodge the point about you running around a gunfight in your pants. Personally I feel this is a contravention of the poor quality roleplay rule. You're bringing things like "oh you should've known we were in a gang fight" into this discussion, brushing over the fact that you were running in circles in your pants and pulled a rifle out of your buttcheeks.

You state that we saw you shooting, again. We saw one man blacked out shooting a revolver. You had nothing visible which could possibly indicate you are a threat. My gut reaction to seeing you was that you were maybe in a mental health crisis.

We were aware of Hustlers in the area yesterday and that very few shots were fired. Hustlers, at the time we spoke to them had two cars with a single person each approach us. In my experience I'd hear hordes of gunfire going off at a gang fight involving 15 people.

Which is, in my view a fictional claim. On your own clip we hear at most, five distinct voices? We also hear you intentionally put your gun away when you see us coming. If your assertion is that we should've been afraid for our lives, why did you hide the one thing that might have made us believe that?

This is, in my view a malicious report. You're claiming that two cops should not respond to reports of gunfire, should take the word of a trouserless man as gospel and have an innate psychic ability to tell when people not in colours are also affiliated to someone who is not in colours.

This actually is my last reply staff, if you want my POV I'm happy to DM it to you.
 
edb0y8 said:
G2.4) Value of Life At all times you are to value your life, if you are clearly outnumbered or at an obvious disadvantage you should comply with demands.
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as stated here. did you value your life?
was you outnumbered?
was you at a disadvantage?

As seen in my clip you could clearly see that you was outnumbered. you ran past 4 of us even if I had a knife and the others had guns your still outnumbered not valuing your life.
just because you are firearms don't mean this rule dose not exist for you.
 
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