Recent Police Changes and What should happen

[Voltz]

So there have been alot of changes for the police, and quite honestly don't know why, we can not be nerfed. The only thing that the cops have in favor to the rebels it a rubber bullet gun, that's it. Rebels outgun us, usually out man us, have better equipment.

Therefore I propose this poll, and I would like to see everyone vote, not for what they want, but for what they feel is right.

I hope that the admins and police higher ups look at this and think, as this is starting to annoy me.

Voltz

 

[Spunky Bumlove]

Might be better to wait to hear the reasoning behind the decision first mate.

 

[Rossss]

100% and pay for it is my vote.

Why?

Well it makes cops somewhat value their gear and still make a decent profit

 

[Edgar Ville]

Can I suggest another option you might want to add to the poll?

No monetary reward for playing as police, no paying for equipment.
My reasoning is that money just complicates the fact that most of us do it for the roleplay.
If you don't agree I accept that, but I'd appreciate you adding it to the Poll so we can see if anyone thinks likewise.

We Hippies now.

Edit: Voltz pls.

 

[FriendlyFireGuy]

I like that - screw money completely for cops. Remove the lot of it, it isn't needed. If you want money you can do a legal job "on the side" as a civ.

 

[Vladic Ka]

Can I suggest another option you might want to add to the poll?

No monetary reward for playing as police, no paying for equipment.

My reasoning is that money just complicates the fact that most of us do it for the roleplay.

If you don't agree I accept that, but I'd appreciate you adding it to the Poll so we can see if anyone thinks likewise.

We Hippies now.

Edit: Voltz pls.

I like this too however it was plain to see how rich police get and it was out of control. Something had to be done. Remember not everything is forever and we are trying to find a good balance at the minute.

 

[Anonymous Eagle]

Can I suggest another option you might want to add to the poll?

No monetary reward for playing as police, no paying for equipment.

My reasoning is that money just complicates the fact that most of us do it for the roleplay.

If you don't agree I accept that, but I'd appreciate you adding it to the Poll so we can see if anyone thinks likewise.

We Hippies now.

Edit: Voltz pls.

 

[FriendlyFireGuy]

I like this too however it was plain to see how rich police get and it was out of control. Something had to be done. Remember not everything is forever and we are trying to find a good balance at the minute.

Im not rich :-(

I must be doing something wrong :-(

Also, just a quick question - it might sound daft but even with (some) of them getting rich - what problem did that cause?

(Not trying to be a dick or anything, just trying to understand).

 

[Dir. Connor Portsmouth]

I think the cops should still get some sort of reward should they leave or something. I personally wouldn't like leaving the police and not having any money to carry me over as a civ, its the same RP character after all. Perhaps a pension of some sorts alongside the gear not costing anything?

 

[Voltz]

Added new option.

 

[puppy1004]

Its damn fine the way it was, exept for the 750K silencer....

 

[Kris!]

Could you add the option:

Leave it as it is and asses, review and identify how it could be improved/changed

It's already been stated that the changes to the police reward for sending someone to prison may be subject to change if the development team feel it's too low or doesn't provide anything beneficial to the server. I can understand the reasoning behind it, as even when gear was changed to cost the person money, those with multimillions still aren't all that concerned regarding it. If police are spending £100,000 each time they 're-gear and make £4,000,000 in cash a day, it will take a fair bit of re-gears to balance the income of a cop to the income of a rebel.

As a rebel donator, I'm spending £300,000 to re-gear, I'm making possibly £2,000,000 a day if I'm doing drugs and a bank job.

 

[FriendlyFireGuy]

Could you add the option:

Leave it as it is and asses, review and identify how it could be improved/changed

It's already been stated that the changes to the police reward for sending someone to prison may be subject to change if the development team feel it's too low or doesn't provide anything beneficial to the server. I can understand the reasoning behind it, as even when gear was changed to cost the person money, those with multimillions still aren't all that concerned regarding it. If police are spending £100,000 each time they 're-gear and make £4,000,000 in cash a day, it will take a fair bit of re-gears to balance the income of a cop to the income of a rebel.

As a rebel donator, I'm spending £300,000 to re-gear, I'm making possibly £2,000,000 a day if I'm doing drugs and a bank job.

I agree. Doesn't bother me to pay for gear at all. In fact I don't care what money I make. The only issue for me is, that with the system now I manage to maintain a bank balance. If i'm earning less, that bank balance will go down.

This means I'll now need to consider making money - something I don't think cops should do as it takes away from RP experiences if we're just chucking people in the slammer. I'd rather have all the money go completely and gear free.

 

[lionel]

Imbalanced poll there are not enough options

 

[PLF Grannez]

This poll rofl

 

[Kris!]

I agree. Doesn't bother me to pay for gear at all. In fact I don't care what money I make. The only issue for me is, that with the system now I manage to maintain a bank balance. If i'm earning less, that bank balance will go down.

This means I'll now need to consider making money - something I don't think cops should do as it takes away from RP experiences if we're just chucking people in the slammer. I'd rather have all the money go completely and gear free.

what I would like to know is how exactly you're managing to keep your income balanced where as other cops are raking it in?

 

[Edgar Ville]

what I would like to know is how exactly you're managing to keep your income balanced where as other cops are raking it in?

There are a lot of factors, some which people would take offense to so i'll start by saying that this does not apply to everyone or anyone in particular.

Firstly luck, if somebody with a massive bounty does something to warrant an arrest in front of you, you're very lucky. Supposing you can bring them in (very difficult with larger groups as they tend to have backup about) you will earn a bounty from them, 100% of it if you don't RP properly.

Secondly, metagaming. If a cop metagames at all, his/her chances of finding someone with a juicy bounty are massively increased, turn off the player tags above peoples heads and watch these guys suffer.

Thirdly, location. It is true that simply being in the right place at the right time means that you are more likely to run into people breaking laws or already having large bounties, this factors into the luck section a bit but I believe certain areas (such as Kavala) tend to have much stupider crims running around. (admittedly with smaller bounties but this is a case where quantity beats quality)

Fourthly(?), depth of RP. There is a big scale of difference in how far people will go with RP. For some on the lazy end of the scale, the basic interaction may look like this: Restrain > Identify > Check wanted level > Ticket > Jail. Which fair enough, while you are talking to the suspect and explaining what you are doing as you do it, is considered adequate. 

Others may take a longer path of: Greet > Question > Identify > Charge with crimes > Restrain (if needed) > discuss options > consider lifestory and excuses > ticket according to effort of roleplay from others (essentially rewarding people for roleplaying) > finish processing > drive suspect back to nearest car garage and wish a nice day.

I'll add more soon, it's too early to fully raise my point.

EDIT: This is not a targeted post at any individual, group or established member of any community, force or political alignment. All methodology and reasoning is to be considered wrong if you take offense so that you may continue to live happily. The Author in no way claims to be an expert and none of his posts are to be considered fact or anything more than opinion.

 

[FriendlyFireGuy]

what I would like to know is how exactly you're managing to keep your income balanced where as other cops are raking it in?

It just seems to happen naturally. I only ever play as a cop so I'm not spending it as a civ. Perhaps I let off more people - If I get great RP I tend to let people "win" just for the experience. I also tend to let newer cops process people we catch rather than do it myself. On top of that, just because It says I can fine someone 50K for lockpicking for example, I usually fine much, much less.

Although that changes now, max fines all over.

To be honest, the cops I play with most are in a similar situation to me so I wonder if the situation is more like a select few "rake it in" and not cops as a whole and this it somewhat out of proportion?

EDIT >> Edgars post above answers that much better!

 

[Presidente]

im not a cop. but i think cops, all the money they earn, rise an account for all cops. like the money of gangs. so they should have gear for defend free. and they must pay for extra things.

its like a team

all work for the same side.

cheers guys