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oh its that time of the week again
There was me thinking we'd already had our weekly forum war with the whole police equipment thing 

(disclaimer: the following is my opinion, I'm not clarifying that this is or isn't against the rules, I don't have the power to do that. I enforce rules, I don't make them)

Anyways, as you've described it @SPC Hoggie sounds like trolling and/or baiting to me. Rather than 'taking it further' (I am assuming this means a report) I would instead suggest that you bring it up at the next police/rebel meeting so that rules can be clarified. To me, personally, I would give a severe warning if I saw anyone doing this, followed by a ban if it persists. But, again, that is my opinion, and clarification is needed.

 
@Jamz@JohnJoeegan Can we get this locked? Really CBA for the other toxic comments to roll in.

Come on now. Stop with the posts involving Cops and Rebels. IT NEVER ENDS WELL.

I now summon @Crumble (Forum mods being lazy and sleeping)

 
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I'VE SEEN IT ALL...& MY USUAL THOUGHT/REACTION WAS "FACEPALM"

  • For almost every, not every, but for the most of those* usual complaints against the police force are rebels/civs to be blamed, who provoked such or other situation & also started it in the 1st place.
  • Members of the police force & the health institution are whitelisted members in the community(bound to be honest IRL, when explaining in game things & situations), they do know(& should know) better, how a situation is lived & carried out IRL, & adapted 1on1 + played out in an RP game - a serious roleplay community.
  • Some ppl, especially rebels/civs play this game mod in a OOC state of mind, like they were still just players behind a PC, doing stuff which is even for a, let's say a normal person or a weird-oh, unimaginable(for a RP character, ofc).
  • Players not valuing their lives, alright "you have gone insane", but still know how to properly chat or give orders to someone, with proper articulation & knowing what your doing at that point of time, which doesn't go along with a man, who's just gone insane & lost his mind due to what ever reason.
  • Powergaming, one term, one action, rooted in the minds of players & played out under the cover of RP, example: a rebel in full gear engages a civ, civ sees him & flees into cover, & then around the corner suddenly appears a half-naked man, posing no threat & says "whats going on", the civ replies "im being attacked by a rebel, watch out", the half-naked man replies then "surprise, its me blablabla...", meaning he is the rebel who engaged that civ,...& is already pointing a gun at the civ, if he didn't already knocked him out.
  • Not valuing your own life,...jezzz that's nothing new & the least important thing for a "player"(whatever*), but not so for an "RP player"(it means something*).
  • Trolling, ah trolling....is always a good fun for a player, but not for an RP player
  • Well, I'm gonna end this here, don't want to waste my energy so late at night over here, just for the lack of imagination & understanding of this issue by some players, but all in all, the common issue by RP game mods is, that players are playing such mods in a OOC state of mind, just being players IRL behind a PC(ex. no worries, I'll just respawn or wait for the medic, who is currently close near by,...jeeeezzzzz IMO, for me, it's beyond my understanding why even medics revive rebels/terrorists, who fight against the local authorities/government, if not told by cops to do so, for questioning, interrogations & other things/reasons maybe, done by the cops, that would be the only exception).
1 more thing, I'd like to mention is(since I'm already posting something), that I won't tear my mask(balaclava) off my face, just because its expensive & a rebel/robber wants it,  while I'm being threatened by that very same rebel/robber, who's got 500k+ worth gear on him or not(+ a new chopper & is probably also rich or not, whatever). Why? Because my current character has a terrible medical condition(burned face, 2-3 degree burns, he might die, if the mask is taken off, so either way my character is dead, shot in the head or dies by suicide while pulling that mask off) & won't do that. And when my character explains that, why would still have a face mask on you, that is dirty, sweaty, stinky & bloody with parts of skin tissue, after It was taken off with great pain, to that point that my character would die because of taking it off. How bout a shemag? Oh no, its cheap & it doesn't look cool like a balaclava.

But that's just my characters story, fact is, people kill for a piece of clothing, which is not expensive IRL, but its been badly adapted to this game as something expensive, so ppl play in a OOC state of mind, just to get a their hands on such face masks aka balaclavas.

This might be a little bit out of the context of this topic & that particular situations, as described by Hoggie, but still, it also describes the issue with....I'm repeating myself already,....OOC state of mind by random players.

We can do better, open your mind to this world of RP & behave a bit more in a serious way, as you would imagine it, live it or might see it IRL.

Reece Smurf, to fix this problem, we would need full whitelistening & interviews with players, to make them understand the situation, only then we can change the state of common knowledge about what it means to play an RP game mod, so basically we need to fix our minds & think differently of this game, like being an adaptation of real life in a game - well I came here also because of this advert - serious RP community. Or, we can just explain & share our thoughts on forums, like we do now in this topic, its easier then whitelistening, so there will be always new players, who don't know or don't understand it yet, or are just here to have fun with causing trouble, or are just trolling around here for one day, breaking rules along with it,...I call them "1 day trolling flies - a joke".

But who am I to tell others how to behave,...anyway these days everyone runs around(from A to B) in the game, jeezzzz :D(running animation).

 
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Calm down lads don't make this thread go toxic! How about we all just go watch some Netflix and chill?
If you're offering, that's fabulous..! It's been a while..

On topic though, do you guys not have those policey/rebely meetings still? Should this not be discussed in a mature and constructed manor there? This is a good opportunity to mull over the issue in an adult way, and then the key points can be raised at said meeting?  Maybe I'm too out of touch. I'll be in my Orchard if you need me...

 
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Is this somekind of a weeeee weeee week or what, so many players who have been here long enough to know how things work making threads like this when they know nothing will change and everything will be the same. Dont get me wrong, I love reading this and get a few giggles of a few hypocrites (talking about all 3 threads this month not just this one) but its getting repetitive

 
This annoys me hoggie put this up for a reason to find out if they were in the wrong or not but like usual everyone does not try come up with a way to fix the problem it they just bicker like children and put the blame on the other side!!! Remember this is a adult community can everyone just please stop making everything bloody toxic!!!!!!
Asked for a senior admins to say if it is banable so i agree with you. Just wanted to point out it happeneds and needs too stop.

Also can we get a forum mod to lock this as clearly people cant raise awareness about a problem, without causing  a shit storm when the problem  needs to be fixed.

@JohnJoeegan @Jamz

 
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Hey hey Weeeeeeeeee, yeah yeah I know you like to giggle, but such posts are meant to talk about & share opinions, you know that, here is no arguing going on, only a desire to make this game mod a better one(main factor are the people who are playing it). Enlightenment, sharing knowledge,...we help each other out here, just so that we don't get frustrated with the things going on in the game.

You mentioned long term community members, who have been here around for ages. "They should know better" - I give you right about that. Their experience is worth a lot. But from time to time, some words need to be shared even about old topics & issues, so we don't fall apart, but keep a steady quality of RP.

And If we are already talking about hypocrites(kinda 2-faces), well I guess a community(even IRL ofc) wouldn't like someone who isn't even honest & truthful to himself...so I would like to say this "I'm not a hypocrite",...but you will know that soon by the end of this month.

 
Why don't we legalised drugs, War on drug is obviously not working and cops will have plenty of time to talk with coked up bloody thirst rebels.

 
Why don't we legalised drugs, War on drug is obviously not working and cops will have plenty of time to talk with coked up bloody thirst rebels.
Drug runs are fine, but doing laps in trucks waiting to be issued on and then killing is wrong. That is what this thread is about , not rebels doing drugs.

 
And im not discussing the ban situation any further considering neither of you know what your talking about. But thats me out of this thread and off to Netflix and chill 
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Haha, just noticed this, so if someone disagrees with you about your ban they don't know what they're talking about, but if they agree and say you shouldn't have been, then they must be right and it seems you value their opinion more. Sounds like someone can't take criticism. Good job!

 
Just my 2 cents on the subject. And I bit long winded, I tend to ramble a lot.

I've neither ran into this situation, nor have I done it. And I'm not advocating either side of it as "X does this yes, but Y also does this" finger pointing of sorts. I'm merely giving my input to it in a purely roleplay 'in the theater of the mind' setting.

My take on it is it is a bit of meta/suspension of reality/powergaming, to do so.
If this was any other type of game other than a videogame that's limited in how you can interact with people/objects (for example a tabletop RPG) where the possibilities of actions was more diverse to the point of "whatever you can think of to try". Rolling forward and backwards would be a sure fire way to either get killed, or arrested for sure. Only it does in here because of the limit of the game engine.
There is no way to roleplay "I do a dex check to mount the side of the vehicle as it loops past me, roll to bust out the window and attempt to drag out the driver while doing dodge checks and str checks to hold on, hoping he cannot shoot me before I get him out". And the rebel cannot do any 'limitless possibilities' to try to stop the officer from doing so, like having his passenger try to crawl to the roof of the truck while driving to fight the officer off the side.

It's simply a play on the game engines mechanics to shift the odds in your favor. A "Im invincible to being stopped only way to is fire upon me, and as long as I don't engage it would be a RDM by way of the 3 minute rule", which is in place to give opportunity to get away, or RP, not to use to stall in one spot.

Every situation should be approached as "What would this character do if this was playing out and he was a flesh and blood person" for police/rebel/hobo/civ. Not a "what will stop them from being able to click on my avatar or vehicle" or "what will make me win". Not just this situation, but any for any side of the altis population.

It seems to me a few people (Not this thread just what I see ingame for rebels, police, and civs as well as a whole). Like to use the RP rules to their advantage, while at the same time stacking the video game mechanic aspects onto those rules to enhance the advantage. As in a "the server rules state X must happen, and with the limit of the game you cannot do X if you cannot do Y first, so I win".

Granted everyone has different  reasons and depth of RP they play for. But in the end it isnt about 'winning' it's about the story and roleplay you get out of the time online isnt it? not the sum of the digits next to the money sign you have when you hit Y.

 
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Hey hey Weeeeeeeeee, yeah yeah I know you like to giggle, but such posts are meant to talk about & share opinions, you know that, here is no arguing going on, only a desire to make this game mod a better one(main factor are the people who are playing it). Enlightenment, sharing knowledge,...we help each other out here, just so that we don't get frustrated with the things going on in the game.

You mentioned long term community members, who have been here around for ages. "They should know better" - I give you right about that. Their experience is worth a lot. But from time to time, some words need to be shared even about old topics & issues, so we don't fall apart, but keep a steady quality of RP.

And If we are already talking about hypocrites(kinda 2-faces), well I guess a community(even IRL ofc) wouldn't like someone who isn't even honest & truthful to himself...so I would like to say this "I'm not a hypocrite",...but you will know that soon by the end of this month.
These kind of topics make people hate eachother because some people only see their own opinion, others post non-relevant stuff and then you have a few who understand everyone can have their own opinion. Because of that threads like this turn into whining competitions and nobody takes them seriously. And with hypocrites I didnt mean you. Not sure if you are talking about me or just in general, but I have always said what I meant. 

 
Well Weeeee, I know(I feel so) you didn't mean me. I was just talking in general, that's all & along with that wanted to make a statement about myself, non other, neither you. Prejudices can have bad consequences & it's not right. Yes, everyone has his opinion, no one enforces things on others(only admins are allowed to do so, IMO, which I find ok, I'll just take it as it is). And ofc, I would like to see also that such post don't cause hatred between members of this community & are above all also taken seriously with any hatred & so on. Everyone has his opinion, his voice, so let's share it. Communication & socializing, in that thing, as a species, were are unique.

You know, I FEEL SLO, cheers "buddy(a friendly expression*)"

 
@Supermoosey

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOR There could have been a discussion in team speak about it regarding alot of different members. Of which you weren't involved in, get off the high horse please bud.

 
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOR There could have been a discussion in team speak about it regarding alot of different members. Of which you weren't involved in, get off the high horse please bud.
First of all, I'm a moose not a horse, how the fuck can a moose get off a high horse.

Secondly, in layman's terms, what you've said is that the admins were wrong to ban you because you're friends said that it wasn't fair. I'm saying the admins were right, because at the end of the day, they know this better then someone in the channel brown nosing his friends, telling him no, you didn't break the rules, the admins hate you. If it wasn't ban-able, you wouldn't have been banned? Or am I missing some great mystical unspoken thing?

If you don't want to hear someones opinion of it, don't post it on the public forum, or ever hint at it. I think it's not me that need's to jump off the high horse, think it's more people in glass houses shouldn't through stones lad.

 
Cops and rebels are the same thing. The only difference is their color on their clothing. Some people are better at roleplay than others, but that is nothing that can changed. If you compare the tactics used in here and compare it to almost anywhere else it is the same. Police roleplay is better in generel since the rebels have a lot of trolls pulling them down, but at the end of the day we are all just here to have fun. Lets just have love instead of getting mad on eachother <3 <3

 
I don't care to read through most of the posts on this thread, its the same crap over and over, However what does annoy me is the constant tagging. I saw like 4 different posts tagging @Jamz and @JohnJoeegan.

Please, don't do this, there are about 10 people with forum mod permissions, the thread will have been seen.

SO STOP DOING IT, ONCE IS ENOUGH.

As for this thread, Im locking it now, for the most part it was civil, however warning points will be handed out to shit posts, spam or toxic posts.

@JohnJoeegan@Jamz

 
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