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POLICE HOSTAGES

Swear to god I think the police sometimes forget how much our gear costs so any method we can use to make money we do it. It's not like we can just relog and go back on patrol. Everyday it becomes increasingly more difficult for us so then we have to resort to taking hostages or robbing the treasury, not because we want to it's because without it we won't exist as rebel gangs.
and i don't think that the rebels understand spending the best part of a restart doing nothing but hostage ops often (but not all the time) with the minimal RP of "gives us x amount of money or he dies"  gets old extremely fast and it gets increasingly difficult to have some nice RP (that we are all here for at the end of the day)

 
Not a bad idea to be honest, maybe the NPC's won't try and take me hostage or rob me while I'm trying to conduct assessments or tests for the Academy.

In all seriousness though, RP is supposed to be believable and realistic, at what point do people think that the British Government would just sit by and let all these kidnappings and treasury robberies happen without deploying the Army to remove the troublesome gangs? For the sake of the server (because this is the most important thing), stop and think about how your RP effects those around you. Every time a hostage is taken the resources to try and negotiate, rescue or otherwise, are taken away from everybody else. How many times have you tried to have some RP with a member of the Police force just for them to say "sorry, need to go, something important is happening"? - think about it for a moment, I'm willing to wager it happens a lot.
Mmm conduct your assessments and tests on the training server. And its not only our RP i have seen many cops with the most senseless RP as a higher ranked officer. This a double edged sword. I know some rebels dont display the best RP ever but as i said its a double edged sword. When some police officers display bad RP a gang reacts to it by taking hostages and doing bank jobs or slaughtering cops. 

 
Swear to god I think the police sometimes forget how much our gear costs so any method we can use to make money we do it. It's not like we can just relog and go back on patrol. Everyday it becomes increasingly more difficult for us so then we have to resort to taking hostages or robbing the treasury, not because we want to it's because without it we won't exist as rebel gangs.
Just because you are a rebel doesn't mean you have to be kitted out all the time does it? Please remember, it is the rebels who undertake the illegal acts, you all know the risk it entails. I, once again, present the idea of not robbing the treasury, instead be creative and think of ways that would let the government give you the gold. Equally, get creative with how you do the drug runs. There are plenty of stories that can be told which change the word drug to something else. Use your imaginations and let the RP do the talking for you.

 
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Mmm conduct your assessments and tests on the training server. And its not only our RP i have seen many cops with the most senseless RP as a higher ranked officer. This a double edged sword. I know some rebels dont display the best RP ever but as i said its a double edged sword. When some police officers display bad RP a gang reacts to it by taking hostages and doing bank jobs or slaughtering cops. 
Would love to conduct tests on the training server.....unfortunately we evaluate how the PCSO's conduct themselves in live scenarios with active radios and such. What's the point in sheltering them from the real RP scenario's so they can't learn from it? You state that some Police give 'senseless RP' but tell us to train the recruits away from the place they can learn to give good RP.

Also, based on your logic, if a rebel displays bad RP we should just send them to prison or scrap their vehicles. Imagine the fallout that would cause!

 
Would love to conduct tests on the training server.....unfortunately we evaluate how the PCSO's conduct themselves in live scenarios with active radios and such. What's the point in sheltering them from the real RP scenario's so they can't learn from it? You state that some Police give 'senseless RP' but tell us to train the recruits away from the place they can learn to give good RP.

Also, based on your logic, if a rebel displays bad RP we should just send them to prison or scrap their vehicles. Imagine the fallout that would cause!
If this is the case why are you complaining about getting attacked while conducting them. They should now what to do when theyre in danger aswell. And also based on my logic if i give my name whilst getting interrogated i always end up prison anyways regardless how good my RP is.

 
If this is the case why are you complaining about getting attacked while conducting them. They should now what to do when theyre in danger aswell. And also based on my logic if i give my name whilst getting interrogated i always end up prison anyways regardless how good my RP is.
What Ali said,may i know your name sir?It's dzul (wanted for somethhing)

Well i'm sorry sir  but you're going to jail( immediate cut off the rp scenario)

 
and i don't think that the rebels understand spending the best part of a restart doing nothing but hostage ops often (but not all the time) with the minimal RP of "gives us x amount of money or he dies"  gets old extremely fast and it gets increasingly difficult to have some nice RP (that we are all here for at the end of the day)
that 'gives us x amount of money or he dies' rarely happens and you know that aswell. Even IF that happens its most of the time hobos doing it so please for the love of god stop making all the rebel gangs look bad because there is a black sheep who does these kind of things.

 
Just because you are a rebel doesn't mean you have to be kitted out all the time does it? Please remember, it is the rebels who undertake the illegal acts, you all know the risk it entails. I, once again, present the idea of not robbing the treasury, instead be creative and think of ways that would let the government give you the gold. Equally, get creative with how you do the drug runs. There are plenty of stories that can be told which change the word drug to something else. Use your imaginations and let the RP do the talking for you.
I would be a pretty shitty rebel if I ran around with a water pistol wouldn't I? And we ALWAYS try to make up some crazy RP situation. But you know... some police don't like the old RPing thing, they'd rather just shoot you with a tazer or rubber bullet and ask questions later. Not all but some.

 
Again and again and again, this SHIT always happens. Not a single useful thread can be made without this kind of useless bitching and fighting.. Do you guys not see that both sides have some shit roleplay from time to time, so stop fucking complaining and play the damn game...

EDIT: I just reread what I have written, and I would like to apologize, I must have drawn a conclusion to fast instead of reading everything that has been said here..

 
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I would be a pretty shitty rebel if I ran around with a water pistol wouldn't I? And we ALWAYS try to make up some crazy RP situation. But you know... some police don't like the old RPing thing, they'd rather just shoot you with a tazer or rubber bullet and ask questions later. Not all but some.
Actually most cops try and shoot as little as possible, we all know about these very large rebel gangs with their very big guns are around, the last thing we would want to do is get in a gunfight against you when there is 2/3 of us.

 
Again and again and again, this SHIT always happens. Not a single useful thread can be made without this kind of useless bitching and fighting.. Do you guys not see that both sides have some shit roleplay from time to time, so stop fucking complaining and play the damn game...
Me and Papa Hedge were exchanging opinions and pointing out the facts like adults. But you came in and started bragging about bitching and fighting. Some times it is really hard to understand people. It really is.

 
If this is the case why are you complaining about getting attacked while conducting them. They should now what to do when theyre in danger aswell. And also based on my logic if i give my name whilst getting interrogated i always end up prison anyways regardless how good my RP is.
Indeed it is true that they should know what to do when in danger, my point, although I made a complete balls-up of clarifying it, is that it was happening so often that it began to hinder the process. If all the new guys to the Police see is hostage and treasury ops, it takes away the valuable experience gained when dealing with other situations. As you can see, a viscous circle is forming. 

I would be a pretty shitty rebel if I ran around with a water pistol wouldn't I? And we ALWAYS try to make up some crazy RP situation. But you know... some police don't like the old RPing thing, they'd rather just shoot you with a tazer or rubber bullet and ask questions later. Not all but some.
Again, just because you're a rebel doesn't mean you have to armed to the teeth and fully geared. For example, as a rebel you are essentially rebelling against the governing of the island. One way to rebel could be to promote a political revolution. Run for the Mayorship, gather supporters and followers to give weight to your cause and overturn the government in that manner. No gun needed.

Another way could be to have the cartel do your bidding for you. RP as the head of the organization and hide behind the weapons of others whilst ruling them with power and money. No need for you to get your hands dirty if others are willing to do it for you.

Or you can RP as a fraudster and scammer to pitch the other gangs off against each other whilst gaining the spoils for yourself and your gang. You can play it in such a way that the other gangs would essentially kill each other over the 'intel' you give them leaving you with lots of guns just laying on the ground for you and your gang to pickup and enjoy.

Just a couple of ideas thought up on the spot, i'm sure there are many other ways to play out being a rebel without the need of all that gear.

 
Just had to hide a tonne of crap of this thread.. this is not a place to spam dribble about "potato's".

One user has been warning pointed. Derailing this thread again will result in more points.

 
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