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Name of the person you are reporting (in-game name): PLF Vlad, Kris, Grannez and their alliance gang
 
Time & Date this happened: 23/10/14 just before the 8pm restart
 
Description of what happened: The gangs PMC and BPS were having a shootout with PLF and we were going to help them out. We got up onto the top of a hill and when looking for their whereabouts, we started getting sprayed at without any roleplay being initiated. I got killed by birchieboy and another ABD memeber got killed by sgt.slickrick. When we asked them why we were killed they said that because we were trying to help PMC and BPS and clearly had hostile intentions. So i asked how they knew, as there is no way they should have. Vlad replied with, because you are in teamspeak with them.
 
Have you tried to resolve with the player before posting?: There was a bit of a row in sidechat but nothing resolved.
  

 
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Would appreciate it if no one replies to this until I've uploaded the several videos and provided our side of events. 

Edit: Will all PLF members, The Increment, DynCorp & other members provide evidence in regards to the situation now.

 
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Okay, so an official post from PLF combined.

On (approximately) the 16th October we had removed one of our members (Joby Sherred) from the PLF gang. Joby Sherred was kicked for several counts of trolling within the gang even after being warned several times, 2 counts of promoting another server within Altis Life UK Server by suggesting PLF are going to move server and become the Whitelisted Rebels and in further instances asking members of PLF to join another Altis Life Server, to which Maratek has been completely informed of.

After removing Joby Sherred from the gang we gave his in-real life friends the option to leave with him, one of them included the previous banned Loz, the other being AWOL. PLF felt AWOL was a solid member, a great role player and a good asset to the gang, regretfully but understandably they decided to leave with Joby Sherred. Swiftly after, when Loz was unbanned he logged on, stole £800,000 (approx) from the gang funds. No biggie, we retained their combined £3,600,000 from a previous bank job to which we had full intentions of giving them until we encountered them RDM'ing PLF Gabriel and PLF mrpat.

During last few days we've received insults from the ABD gang, general trolling and so on. Yesterday afternoon (22/10/2014) we saw in side chat that 2 people from ABD were breaking into houses. I decided to head back to the gang base to confirm if it was our houses when I realised three of my doors were open and and the majority of the content missing, tabbed out to find that AWOL had messaged me with nothing but a winking face. No matter, it's not against server rules to rob people.

Later today we had taken Loz hostage near Athira, upon him entering my hellcat I was metagamed from the start. In fact, you can just see the video below - folks, I introduce you to Role play 101.


After these events, I headed off to do some other stuff, returned to find that a few of PLF members were being followed by two helicopters, who were in fact being flown by P.M.C members, some of which were metagaming the PLF members through mobile phone to order them to stop. Another classic instance of metagaming. I advised those on the ground to return to our base, purchased a .50 cal off road in which Vlad setup in and fired warning shots. I set up on the hill and waited, I noticed a chopper landing in the distances and waited behind a rock. After 10 minutes of these helicopters chasing us, ignoring the warning shots, Vlad and Wolf decided to head to the other chopper and were shot out of .50 cal near instantly. Reporting at least 6 members on the ground a few metres on the opposite side of the hill we had come to the conclusion this is now a gang war, something we were under the impression that advanced notice and permission would need to be requested by the admins. I set up and killed 4 people approaching my location when I received several texts from The Increment and DynCorp asking if we required help to which I agreed. I held out for 5 minutes before they arrived taking out the enemy gangs 1 by 1. 


When help arrived our alliances flanked the enemies from their rear leaving none to spare at which time, Joby Sherred & co were slaughtered. Immediate crying ensued in side chat accusing of RDM and so on. Despite them actually being fully armed in the middle of a un-announced gang war on PLF. Messages were sent to us straight away asking "compensation or ban". 

When we thought the contact had ended I was with a medic who was working on the dead in which another person started shooting at me. A member & friend of PLF approached the shooter in an ifrit and killed him, surprise! It was Loz. As seen in this video:


This was the end of the engagement, Altis was at calm and we took the chance to thank our comrades. 

Ultimately, what has happened here was simply a massive violation of the rules to which I had no intention of reporting simply because we destroyed the attacking forces.

I can only assume, since ABD, P.M.C & BPS had full intentions on killing us but failed they've taken their chances of the forums to try and get us banned when realistically, the only rules broken here have actually been by the attackers, here's another video of a P.M.C member fucking up.


(P.M.C Mazz bugging restrained but failing.)

(Link removed, person in question has provided evidence that he was bugged when he was killed)

http://i.imgur.com/04atSqS.png

(Joby Sherred, I'd take that as an admittance that he's there to kill but was stopped within his tracks.)

http://i.imgur.com/fKpZeUp.png

(A rather amusing image of Mazz admitting he bugged and a good few words for P.M.C)

The only thing I can suggest for the 3 attacking gangs involved in this, if you're going to recruit - recruit good players. If you're going to attack a gang, make sure you have permission. If you're going to attack a good gang and expect to win, make sure you're better than them.

(Members of PLF are now permitted to reply to this thread to provide evidence only, please)

 
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I'm not sure this is the place for a mass report on PMC, you should have put that in another topic as we have nothing to do with them, they just asked us if we wanted to help and we accepted.

http://i.imgur.com/04atSqS.png

(Joby Sherred, I'd take that as an admittance that he's there to kill but was stopped within his tracks.)
As far as that goes, we will admit and did admit that we were there with the intent to kill plf, however there is no way you should have known that we were there to help out the other gangs and saying that we were in there teamspeak channel is metagaming,

is it not?

The only thing I can suggest for the 3 attacking gangs involved in this, if you're going to recruit - recruit good players. If you're going to attack a gang, make sure you have permission. If you're going to attack a good gang and expect to win, make sure you're better than them.
Our gang hasn't 'recruited' anyone, we are all just friends, or friends of friends and are here to have fun in a GAME.

 
The reason you guys got shot is simply because u entered an war zone, all geared up, ready to kill...
If however you were not going to engage or take part in the fight, why would you ever go there?(Unless u don't value your life and are bad at rp) ,and how would u know the fight were being held at and near the old "secret" PLF gang base if you had no attachments to our enemy? cause we sure did not tell you.


So saying that PLF, DC and The Increment members meta gamed just because you got rekt is sad.

 
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I'm not sure this is the place for a mass report on PMC, you should have put that in another topic as we have nothing to do with them, they just asked us if we wanted to help and we accepted.
You reported us, we responded. This is by no means a mass report on PMC, but a report involving PMC, BPS & ABD. Individual reports for players we have solid evidence on will be made shortly.

As far as that goes, we will admit and did admit that we were there with the intent to kill plf, however there is no way you should have known that we were there to help out the other gangs and saying that we were in there teamspeak channel is metagaming,

is it not?
So, you had full intentions on joining a gang war that was not authorised by the gang being attacked, but also by an admin. You had full intentions to attend and to kill PLF members and when you were killed, you immediately took to the side chat accusing the killers of RDM and telling them they will be banned or at least reported if they did not compensate you.

Truth be told, I didn't even know you were there, yes I noticed you in their Teamspeak, but that's where it ends but ultimately, you were killed in the middle of a gang war. That is the exact opposite to metagaming. Several people were attacking PLF, during which an alliance railed you and some others down - where is that metagaming? They saw an armed person, like several others there who were armed and you were killed. 

The fact that you have just admitted you have full intentions to kill PLF members but later took to crying your eyes out on the side chat is just evidence that you can't be considered an adult and you leaving PLF after Joby Sherred was removed is a blessing.

Our gang hasn't 'recruited' anyone, we are all just friends, or friends of friends and are here to have fun in a GAME.
Recruiting people or not, this post was made with the 3 gangs in mind and not you to be singled out.

 
So, you had full intentions on joining a gang war that was not authorised by the gang being attacked, but also by an admin. You had full intentions to attend and to kill PLF members and when you were killed, you immediately took to the side chat accusing the killers of RDM and telling them they will be banned or at least reported if they did not compensate you. 

Truth be told, I didn't even know you were there, yes I noticed you in their Teamspeak, but that's where it ends but ultimately, you were killed in the middle of a gang war. That is the exact opposite to metagaming. Several people were attacking PLF, during which an alliance railed you and some others down - where is that metagaming? They saw an armed person, like several others there who were armed and you were killed. 

 

The fact that you have just admitted you have full intentions to kill PLF members but later took to crying your eyes out on the side chat is just evidence that you can't be considered an adult and you leaving PLF after Joby Sherred was removed is a blessing.
I wouldn't have reported the incident if it wasn't for what vlad said, i just felt like, killing someone because they were in teamspeak with the gang you were fighting is metagaming...

And seeing as all you do is cry about little things Kris, i thought i could have a go for once.

 
I wouldn't have reported the incident if it wasn't for what vlad said, i just felt like, killing someone because they were in teamspeak with the gang you were fighting is metagaming...

And seeing as all you do is cry about little things Kris, i thought i could have a go for once.
You weren't killed because you were in Teamspeak with PMC. You were killed because you were at the scene of a gang war to which you were a part of. You were seen with several armed men, armed yourself and you were killed because you were all attacking us. It's really that fucking simple and I cannot understand how on earth you can consider yourself killed for metagaming. The reason Vlad replied that in sidechat is because you said, while crying about being compensated or reporting us "how can you confirm we were attacking" and Vlad simply said that. You were killed, because you had intentions to kill us. Simple.

 
Okay just to clear this up we got called in to protect our allies which is what allies do you had them completely outnumbered and The Increment, PLF and DC slaughtered you. If you don't want to get killed don't join in on a gang war you cant handle, then go crying to admins when you die and just waste everyone's time.

 
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You weren't killed because you were in Teamspeak with PMC. You were killed because you were at the scene of a gang war to which you were a part of. You were seen with several armed men, armed yourself and you were killed because you were all attacking us. It's really that fucking simple and I cannot understand how on earth you can consider yourself killed for metagaming. The reason Vlad replied that in sidechat is because you said, while crying about being compensated or reporting us "how can you confirm we were attacking" and Vlad simply said that. You were killed, because you had intentions to kill us. Simple.
I'd just like to say, not once did i say in sidechat that i wanted to be compensated or about reporting you, i just text birchieboy if he was going to comp me and he didn't reply. And i fully understand that we were in the wrong place with weapons but after not shooting a bullet i didn't expect to be sprayed down by a shit load of people. For all you know we could have seen everything happening and come over to help you but you obviously saw we were ABD. And vlad didn't say 'You were killed, because you had intentions to kill us'. He said that you knew we were with them because we were in teamspeak with them.

Okay just to clear this up we got called in to protect our allies which is what allies do you had them completely outnumbered and The Increment, PLF and DC slaughtered you. If you don't want to get killed don't join in on a gang war you cant handle, then go crying to admins when you die and just waste many everyone's time. 

And just to clear something up, we didn't have them outnumbered, there was 4 of us, we were not speaking to the other gangs and didn't know where any of them were apart from the heli flying above.

 
That is lies so it just so happened that 3 gangs decided to attack PLF all at one time, and i can post the recording online tomorrow where we were told your specific co-ordinates and when people happened to be in those exact co-ordinates armed to the teeth and trying to be sneaky hiding behind rocks looking at the PLF base we are not going to march over to you and say wait are you in this gang war as we would just be shot on sight.

 
That is lies so it just so happened that 3 gangs decided to attack PLF all at one time, and i can post the recording online tomorrow where we were told your specific co-ordinates and when people happened to be in those exact co-ordinates armed to the teeth and trying to be sneaky hiding behind rocks looking at the PLF base we are not going to march over to you and say wait are you in this gang war as we would just be shot on sight.
Are you dumb? Obviously it wasn't a coincidence, i've said that they asked us if we wanted to help and we agreed, but we were not speaking to them. We were in a completely different teamspeak with our speakers muted in there channel. They told us where plf were but that was all, we had no clue where any of the other gangs were.

 
I'm not sure you did, as not one of my gang members shot a bullet before being shot at.
We got ingame information about where hostiles was last seen shooting from and how we should act upon potential threats in the area. We spot a crew of 3 armed rebels on that same location, creeping up to get a position, clearly having hostile intentions. You get killed and instantly start whining for comp or report. Grow up... you picked a bigger fight than you thought and you lost, deal with it...

 
Okay so you set out to kill PLF with 2 other gangs, PLF brought in 2 allied gangs you all died after breaking server rules by starting a gang war without permission and then cried rdm when you were fully involved in the gang war? Then message me personally as i killed you trying to blackmail me into giving you money which i would never pay as i have done nothing wrong. So you guys are the only people that have broken rules and have dropped yourselves in it, so quit moaning on here and try plan a better attack next time when you have admins permission.

 
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