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Mosh vs Mitch and Lexi.

I can see Mitch watching this thread so I would like to know why this guy thinks you were ordered to kill by the police.

@Mitch

 
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Last night (12.12.), players Mitch and Lexi claimed they were ordered by police officers to use lethal force against other players. If this is indeed the case, there is a clear breach in rules:

"Weapons = Firearms purchased from the gun store are legal with a valid gun licence, Weapons from rebel outposts/donator shops are illegal. [SIZE=14.4444446563721px]PDW's Are allowed for people in possession of a Bounty Hunter's License [/SIZE](Altis Police Law) as they fire rubber bullets only."

According to the player Mitch, we were shot at with an illegal weapon he had acquired the previous day from players he had killed the previous day. They were not bounty hunters nor were they using recognizable uniform.

The police are therefore collaborating with players in possession of illegal weapons. 

The fact Mitch engaged us in RDM before any of these events unfolding is a different matter in itself. I would however like to know how it is possible for some players to act as police officers without actually being police? Surely this is a task fulfilled by the existence of bounty hunters?
Right just to clear the story out,

2 cops to pretty much a full server. Lexi helped out a cop who was being shot at a drug dealer and who already had his partner killed in the firefight. We then offered to and then preceded to help the cops out in kavala, we was following there every command, not firing and till told to do so. 

We carry out 1 drug stop on a hemmit who crashes and instantly shoots, we take them out with the cops while having a medic standing by the whole time to revive people.

Next comes your little drug selling spree, we find a truck, surrounded the area and then we see you on the otherside of the beech, probably about 200/300m ish. At a guess. The police see you, we take up positions and we get told we can open fire due to drug running and the fact your getaway heli was right near your location. We take you out due to the cops having more shorter range weapons. Basically you was running from a drug dealer with weapons out, the moment you hid behind the rocks and thats when we opened fire.

Then we get medics to revive them, and then the cops start to RP. However a lag spike hits for a good min, next thing they are running away, we start shooting, cops start shooting so the RP went out the window the moment they tried to get away during a lag spike. 

Then side chat rage in which i whined them up a little bit and here we are. There is zero evidence but i can confirm i killed them multiple times and enjoyed every minute of it. Ill take the blame if there is anything we actually done wrong, however there is zero evidence and this video you was claiming to have hasnt come up.

Lexi to my knowledge wasnt involved in shooting you from what i recall, unless a video pops up showing otherwise. It was mostly me and the cops who shot you running from the drug dealer, and running after the desync. So blame me for this "RDM" if it is rdm and not lexi, shes innocent.

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Are group have encountered Mitch and Lexi whilst engaged with a diamond miner were we all shot with no RP. It seemed they were acting as a private security which allows them it seems to freely shoot any rebels going near civs with no Rp .So in future if you see them just shoot them first as you won`t get any RP until your dead.
We was never near a diamond mine. Im not sure i fully understand what you mean. We only killed 1 box hemmit with 2 people in after they killed one of the cops online while we was iwht the other, we gave chase they crashed got out and shot at us, shooting and downing lexi, while i took both out while getting shot in the butt by the PCSO's rubber bullets. Other than that its the other situation ive already described. 

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CSI Answer: Ok there you go. One policeman who wasn't at the meeting when the whole police were told not to work with any groups using illegal guns did so. He has now been re-educated and now knows the error of his ways.

Admin answer: In an RP sense it sounds like the officer was genuinely scared for his life and worked with said group to get some law and order back to the city. Sometimes your life comes above doing what your superiors have ordered you to do.

Any further questions?

 
Basically I was tired of people using Server 2 as a personal drug selling post, after killing 7 people en route to Kavala in two separate hobo roadblocks, I knew the police were pressed for personnel.

After the reset, (midnight one?) I heard gunfire at the drug dealer... I was so mad at the lawlessness that occurs on late night Server 2 I decided to help out a cop in need. I was almost killed by Wolf but explained I was available to help (free of charge!) considering the irritations that I had experienced beforehand.

I worked behind the police, engaging those who chose to fire upon them. I also had a discussion with a civilian, attempting to dissuade him from a life of crime and drugs...

It is my personal contention that Adonis/Mosh/etc. is upset that he was not allowed to sell his drugs on server 2 at midnight in peace. This is clearly visible when you consider his rage towards myself and Mitch after the events unfolded.

You may need to "zoom in" to read the chat. http://imgur.com/a/05v9X

"We will RDM his ass to hell" - Adonis

"Fuck you Lexi" - Savier

"There is no such thing as AEGIS you scrub" - Adonis

Late night SRV2 needs law and order and a lot of the time the police population isn't present to do that. I attempted to aid the police who were severely understaffed. Personally I don't think they did anything wrong. @CSIVladicKa Though I'm fully aware your personal opinion differs, I agree that within RP it made perfect sense for police officers in fear of their lives to accept the aid of well-trained ex-cop/military personnel. 

 
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Your story has shortcomings. First of all, we didn't have any kind of truck, we solely had choppers about 1 km from the dealer, hidded below a hill. Our helicopters were not in visual range of the drug dealer. To round things off, he first shot towards us was shot immediately after landing, at which stage we had not done anything illegal.

We did not shoot a single shot before we were attacked. One of my gangmembers was shot and killed again by Mitch after being revived by a medic (instead of being restrained, he had no weapons).

PS: I did not rage because I didn't get to sell drugs in peace. I play when I am not at work, in the evenings and at night. Server #1 was full, and actually so was server #2. I was not even one of the people who got shot, but I was seeing it up front.

 
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Your story has shortcomings. First of all, we didn't have any kind of truck, we solely had choppers about 1 km from the dealer, hidded below a hill. Our helicopters were not in visual range of the drug dealer. To round things off, he first shot towards us was shot immediately after landing, at which stage we had not done anything illegal.

We did not shoot a single shot before we were attacked. One of my gangmembers was shot and killed again by Mitch after being revived by a medic (instead of being restrained, he had no weapons).
Sigh ok, first of all there was a truck there, we surrounded the drug dealer, nobody was there, we then checked the beech to see people running (we assumed this was your truck. It would have made sense.) There is a platform behind the drug dealer in which you can see quite far, a small hill so to speak. 

Yer i shot your gang member a second time after you ran during the (i assume DDOS, as it lasted a good few mins) I enjoyed it. The cops also engaged and killed another member who ran during the spike. I would do it again in a heartbeat, because everyone else stayed where they are during the yellow chain. 

 
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CSI Answer: Ok there you go. One policeman who wasn't at the meeting when the whole police were told not to work with any groups using illegal guns did so. He has now been re-educated and now knows the error of his ways.

Admin answer: In an RP sense it sounds like the officer was genuinely scared for his life and worked with said group to get some law and order back to the city. Sometimes your life comes above doing what your superiors have ordered you to do.

Any further questions?
Thank you for clearing this up, my issue was not with my gangmembers dying or our drugrun being postponed to another point in time - my whole problem was with people with illegal weapons working alongside the authorities. 

The reason I got riled up is that while we try to keep RP, it seems that others open fire before there is any room for RP. Surely this game wouldn't be fun without us criminals? Shouldn't they actually have found drugs on our person or found us being aggressive in any way?

 
my life was in danger and i was offered help so i took it, now i understand that as a police and i cant be working together with rebel groups it wont happen again.

 
Double trouble post

Ill use this post to say, We do not consider ourselves a rebel group and have no pleasure in hostage taking, drug running, robbing the bank and killing cops like every other rebel group. 

 
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Thank you for clearing this up, my issue was not with my gangmembers dying or our drugrun being postponed to another point in time - my whole problem was with people with illegal weapons working alongside the authorities. 

The reason I got riled up is that while we try to keep RP, it seems that others open fire before there is any room for RP. Surely this game wouldn't be fun without us criminals? Shouldn't they actually have found drugs on our person or found us being aggressive in any way?
Both helis took off before we could engage and stop them. One of the people we took out had 114k on him while he was running fomr the drug dealer, so im not sure what you was doing running along that beach with illegal weapons from that direction with that amount of money.

Please continue your amazing RP, next youll be storing trucks full of weed and getting them back out again somewhere else to skip the possibility of cops catching you or simply doing drug runs late in the night with no threat of police. 

 
Both helis took off before we could engage and stop them. One of the people we took out had 114k on him while he was running fomr the drug dealer, so im not sure what you was doing running along that beach with illegal weapons from that direction with that amount of money.

Please continue your amazing RP, next youll be storing trucks full of weed and getting them back out again somewhere else to skip the possibility of cops catching you or simply doing drug runs late in the night with no threat of police. 
Why would you imply us abusing? Stop being a tard. We've never done anything of the sort and nothing you can say can prove we've ever done anything of the sort. If anything, you are the one doing shady stuff in a real grey-zone of the rules, and now you go blaming me for cheating? Flying helicopters full of drugs is not cheating, we don't even land it near the dealer (which is illegal on some servers) just to be sure.

 
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We was never near a diamond mine. Im not sure i fully understand what you mean. We only killed 1 box hemmit with 2 people in after they killed one of the cops online while we was iwht the other, we gave chase they crashed got out and shot at us, shooting and downing lexi, while i took both out while getting shot in the butt by the PCSO's rubber bullets. Other than that its the other situation ive already described. 
My comment was on a previous engagement are group had with you on another night.  This is a not smear on yourself as such but more of an agreement that you and ppl that run with you to shoot without Rp using the guise that you acting as Pmc/do gooder , so if any rebels /gangs are doing there illegal activities (like the police) its down to you to remove them with lethal force for going any RP as their rebels so shoot them.

Are group always RP only taxing civs we come across and allowing them to continue hopefully having experienced a good RP moment, if the police arrive we cheese it unless gun fire is started.

But with the way you choose to engage will cause us and others to just go lethal with little or no RP.

Now i know there are alot of ppl who still don`t Rp causing deadly force anyway ......... but not all so the comment that the rules are stated for all but you have found a loop hole in Rp Engagements hidden behind protection and police scabs. 

 
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Sorry i just love making sexytimes to my vermin while killing people with zero RP. My fault, but dont take it out on AEGIS.
You realise you are the one who is just making the assumption of people being zero RP? You've never even encountered me in the game itself, yet you've already blamed me of no-RP and exploiting. 

The joke is on your sir.

 
You realise you are the one who is just making the assumption of people being zero RP? You've never even encountered me in the game itself, yet you've already blamed me of no-RP and exploiting. 

The joke is on your sir.
Im sorry you exploited? Are you confessing something right now because i havnt said anything of the sorts other than sarcasm towards other groups exploiting it still, and the fact that its happening an awful lot but (no offence) admins dont seem to look for that, just VDM and RDM in kavala. But yes i basically said i wouldnt be suprised if the people that were drug running went down that route in the future.

Anyway this isnt the place for this. You posted a player report without evidence in the police complaints, if you want to get me banned, get evidence of me first of all. I will gladly except the ban the moment that happens, youll do me a favour, but until then, hush hush.

 
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No longer a police issue. Moving elsewhere for the discussion to continue.

 
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