Hugo_
Well-known member
Hi folks,
I am writing this because I have seen the rdm ban on SI Gazalad and would like to put some input into it without getting into trouble.
One of the reasons altislife is so successful is because it is a serious RP. With that being said, I think the RDM ban is fairly simple in its practice and considering this is a serious RP, then this is an oversight needs to be debated.
For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, SI Gazalad was in a middle of a firefight. Two of his offices had just been killed and a hobo drives up, sees a dead body and proceeds to pick up the weapon. Gaz's give him a warning, the warning is unnoticed so Gaz process to kill him.
One argument given was that Gaz did not give enough time to have the hobo respond.
In a study called " New Developments in Understanding the Behavioural Science Factors in the "Stop Shooting" Response. William J. Lewinski, Ph.D., Force Science Institute and Minnesota State University, Mankato, MN, USA. It concludes that " The delay in noticing any change in the nature of the threat and having the officer change his or her behavior in response to that threat could take the average officer a second to a second and a half in a dynamic, “real- world,” life-threatening encounter if the officer did not expect that the threat would cease. This process alone could be the reason for an extra three to six rounds being fired by the officer after the threat ceased—particularly if the officer was shooting as quickly as possible, was focused on shooting to save his or her own life, or emotionally recoiling in response to that threat and also simultaneously involved in assessing the threat. "
In another study Officer-Involved Shooting: Reaction Patterns, Response Protocols, and Psychological Intervention Strategies, International Journal of Emergency Mental Health, Vol. 8, No. 4, pp. 239-254 it states "the officer experiences heightened perceptual awareness of those features of the scene that are essential for his survival..... Most common are distortions in time perception. In the majority of these cases, officers recall the shooting event as occurring in slow motion, although a smaller percentage report experiencing the event as speeded up. Sensory distortions are common and most commonly involve tunnel vision, in which the officer is sharply focused on one particular aspect of the visual field, typically, the suspect’s gun or weapon, while blocking out everything in the periphery. Similarly, tunnel hearing may occur, in which the officer’s auditory attention is focused exclusively on a particular set of sounds, most commonly the suspect’s voice, while background sounds are excluded. Sounds may also seem muffled or, in a smaller number of cases, louder than normal. Officers have reported not hearing their own or other officers’ gunshots. In a few cases, officers have reported hearing “the bad guy’s blood drip” (James Sewell, personal communication). Overall perceptual clarity may increase or diminish. Some form of perceptual and/or behavioral dissociation may occur during the critical event "
Based on this scientific research and according to the evidencee shown by Gaz's video. His assessment of the situation in a RP situation is normal. So why is he banned?
He is being heavily criticized because upon reviewing a video, the decision that is derived is coming from an analytical standpoint. The core factors upon the decisions such as environmental stress, situation understanding and neurological and psychological understanding of a police officers reaction under such stress is not taken into consideration.
If this is a truly serious RP server, then true scientific fact regarding everyday police situations MUST also be considered.
To tell the police in Altislife that while in a firefight to act in a calm manner - while in real life, the real police would shoot anyone who approached a deadly weapon, picked it up and refused to follow instructions - is flawed.
In real life, the police would deem the person who picked up a deadly weapon as a serious threat. Considering that moments earlier, two police officers were killed, it would be highly mistaken to think that the remaining officer who is alive would simply give the person picking up a deadly weapon a calm "drop your weapon" and wait some time before action is taken. IMHO That is not serious RP.
So how do we stop this from happening again? In order to consider it serious RP, you have to consider the psychological stresses the officer is under while in a situation. Why not issue a new rule. That rule being that during a firefight, any party that is not involved MUST wait 3 minutes after the last shot before entering the scene. Its the same as the medic rule when they want to revive someone. This way, the surviving officer (in this case Gazalad) will have time to recompose themselves and the scene can be declared safe.
Be interested to hear your thoughts.
Regards
SPC Hugo
@Gazalad @Neo @Axolotl @Crumble
I am writing this because I have seen the rdm ban on SI Gazalad and would like to put some input into it without getting into trouble.
One of the reasons altislife is so successful is because it is a serious RP. With that being said, I think the RDM ban is fairly simple in its practice and considering this is a serious RP, then this is an oversight needs to be debated.
For those of you who do not know what I am talking about, SI Gazalad was in a middle of a firefight. Two of his offices had just been killed and a hobo drives up, sees a dead body and proceeds to pick up the weapon. Gaz's give him a warning, the warning is unnoticed so Gaz process to kill him.
One argument given was that Gaz did not give enough time to have the hobo respond.
In a study called " New Developments in Understanding the Behavioural Science Factors in the "Stop Shooting" Response. William J. Lewinski, Ph.D., Force Science Institute and Minnesota State University, Mankato, MN, USA. It concludes that " The delay in noticing any change in the nature of the threat and having the officer change his or her behavior in response to that threat could take the average officer a second to a second and a half in a dynamic, “real- world,” life-threatening encounter if the officer did not expect that the threat would cease. This process alone could be the reason for an extra three to six rounds being fired by the officer after the threat ceased—particularly if the officer was shooting as quickly as possible, was focused on shooting to save his or her own life, or emotionally recoiling in response to that threat and also simultaneously involved in assessing the threat. "
In another study Officer-Involved Shooting: Reaction Patterns, Response Protocols, and Psychological Intervention Strategies, International Journal of Emergency Mental Health, Vol. 8, No. 4, pp. 239-254 it states "the officer experiences heightened perceptual awareness of those features of the scene that are essential for his survival..... Most common are distortions in time perception. In the majority of these cases, officers recall the shooting event as occurring in slow motion, although a smaller percentage report experiencing the event as speeded up. Sensory distortions are common and most commonly involve tunnel vision, in which the officer is sharply focused on one particular aspect of the visual field, typically, the suspect’s gun or weapon, while blocking out everything in the periphery. Similarly, tunnel hearing may occur, in which the officer’s auditory attention is focused exclusively on a particular set of sounds, most commonly the suspect’s voice, while background sounds are excluded. Sounds may also seem muffled or, in a smaller number of cases, louder than normal. Officers have reported not hearing their own or other officers’ gunshots. In a few cases, officers have reported hearing “the bad guy’s blood drip” (James Sewell, personal communication). Overall perceptual clarity may increase or diminish. Some form of perceptual and/or behavioral dissociation may occur during the critical event "
Based on this scientific research and according to the evidencee shown by Gaz's video. His assessment of the situation in a RP situation is normal. So why is he banned?
He is being heavily criticized because upon reviewing a video, the decision that is derived is coming from an analytical standpoint. The core factors upon the decisions such as environmental stress, situation understanding and neurological and psychological understanding of a police officers reaction under such stress is not taken into consideration.
If this is a truly serious RP server, then true scientific fact regarding everyday police situations MUST also be considered.
To tell the police in Altislife that while in a firefight to act in a calm manner - while in real life, the real police would shoot anyone who approached a deadly weapon, picked it up and refused to follow instructions - is flawed.
In real life, the police would deem the person who picked up a deadly weapon as a serious threat. Considering that moments earlier, two police officers were killed, it would be highly mistaken to think that the remaining officer who is alive would simply give the person picking up a deadly weapon a calm "drop your weapon" and wait some time before action is taken. IMHO That is not serious RP.
So how do we stop this from happening again? In order to consider it serious RP, you have to consider the psychological stresses the officer is under while in a situation. Why not issue a new rule. That rule being that during a firefight, any party that is not involved MUST wait 3 minutes after the last shot before entering the scene. Its the same as the medic rule when they want to revive someone. This way, the surviving officer (in this case Gazalad) will have time to recompose themselves and the scene can be declared safe.
Be interested to hear your thoughts.
Regards
SPC Hugo
@Gazalad @Neo @Axolotl @Crumble
