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as we are sick of being taken hostage
we are sick of it because if we get taken hostage they take 2 cops and what they ask is we want 10 black carrier rigs, if you wanne take a cop hostage make it fun and be creative in the rp guys. we need to jump on the shooting train as cop. because think real life if in a city the criminal record are keeping increasing what do they do ? they will act strict they will hava a zero tolerance. if we now anpr a vehicle that is wanted for 1 murder/manslaughter, and you try to pull it over, he stops stops step out out and say, if you dont let me go now you wille be shot. then we can bether remove the cops even if you are a big wanted man try atleatst to rp youre way out. and as last act if there is no option you can initiate on him. 

 
Jefke, I do agree that if you are going to take a police officer hostage then make it enjoyable for the police as well because it is boring most of the time. Also I think that when you can see a cop clearly role playing with someone on the side of the road and then a gang pull up and then tells a cop to put there hands up, I really don't see the point, it just ruins the role play for the cop and also the person that you are role playing with. We say that this is a role play server but over recent months the role play has declined and something need to be done about it. It is about common sense, if you can clearly see a cop engaging in role play with someone, then just leave them to it, you don't have to be billy big bollocks all of the time, just try and have a laugh with the police and spice up the role play with them and actually have a laugh, because if you respect the police and then they will respect you. There is no need for any gang all of the time to go up to a police officer and tell them to "put there hand up, or you are going to be shot", what is the point? Why do you need to do it? Because in the end it is going to end up in a gun fight. 

Take the other day for example, we were in a gun fight for an hour and half I believe, and it was a pointless gun fight that could of being avoided if the chance was given to role play from both sides on this occasion. But cops are being more hostile to rebels as rebels just tend to take police hostage or tell them to put there hands up! As a police officer we have to take a few more precautions before we can kill someone, and rebels don't, so cops are already at a disadvantage from the start, but I think the issue is that rebels don't value there lives, and I know they don't have to, but I think that they should, just because you have a big gun you think that you are all big and you can boss the cops around, but it is not happening, and most rebels mentality is 'if I die, so what, I have got the money so I can just go and get another weapon', and that is the mentality that rebels shouldn't be having. I know that all rebel gangs can role play as I have seen it in the past, and it was great, but recently, I don't see that role play as much. 

People in this post say that it is a role play server, but at the moment I can't see the role play? Another example that I have being in is, rebels baiting police officers to an ambush where they get initiated on and then turns into a needless gun fight. Also, the other day, my police car got stolen, and then at the the situation that we were at, he kept driving around the area just trying to piss us off and get us to react, and then they stopped up the road and then I started to run towards it and then it drove off, then he eventually stopped and then he got out, so I got in it a took it back, but then I started to get chased around Kavala and then when I crashed, it was a shock that I was initiated on (sarcasm), and then again he told me to "PUT MY HANDS ON MY HEAD" and this was the third time in an hour, and it is pointless, it is not a game, it is a chore with the terrible role play. I like playing and being apart of this community but the role play needs to change, and before someone else says another 'Joke' comment like in previous replies, it is not aimed at any particular gang, it is general, and if gangs change then the police will then go back to not being as hostile as they are at the moment, I can't speak for every officer, but I am getting more stricter with rebels as I have had enough of being initiated on. It is sad that police officer can't patrol on there own without being taken hostage, I just wish that it would change. 

As I mentioned in a previous post, we are only the same in a way, we all play on a role play server, so why can't we just have a little bit of mutual respect for each other and just try to cut out the initiation every time you see a police officer. I really do hope that things will change as it is boring to play as a police officer if this just keeps happening. Now I am not saying that we should stop gun fights or hostage takings completely, as it is fun if you are taken hostage sometime, but being a hostage open a gate for some fun and engaging role play for both parties, but if you are going to request something, then make it realistic, (Sorry for repeating something in an earlier post) not 10 carrier rigs for a PC (no offence to PC's <3) but in all seriousness ask for something more realistic, yeah 10 for a CSI maybe, but not for a PC. And again,we all like a good gun fight, it is arma and it is the nature of the game, but you choose to play on a role play server so role play, a gunfight is good every now and again, but good role play should of happened before the gun fight, not "officer put your hand above your head otherwise you are going to get shot", pointless and in my opinion not high quality role play. 

When we are on a patrol and we see a normal car just wanted for a vehicle theft, which is a small ticket and nothing needs to be ceased or any big punishment, but it starts normal, but we always have a thought that we are going to be initiated on, and 9 times out 10 that hunch turns out to be true, they get out with a MK-18 and say "officer drive off or you are going to get shot", and again another example of a role play denial, all for a vehicle theft. 

Anyway, I have rambled on enough and I am probably going to get moaned at, but it is at a breaking point and I have had enough of the poor role play and the constant gun fights, if you get your weapon taken off you, so what, you have enough money so you can go and buy a new one, as long as you enjoyed the role play then it is fine, just loosen up and enjoy yourself as that is what you are here for!

 
I heard AVC are starting up again :), big in to roleplay!






 
Jefke, I do agree that if you are going to take a police officer hostage then make it enjoyable for the police as well because it is boring most of the time. 
See this really triggers me! 9 times out of 10 the reason the cops is finding it boring is because either the cop is salty and doesn't want to know or is very abusive or once you take him hostage the cops always find you and chase you even if you are threatening the life of the officer you have hostage. 

When I first joined the police i always loved getting taken. 

Also I think there is a problem with the police always wanting to win! If you know someone wants a gun fight back down and maybe give a little instead of denying most negotiations or even just stalling for back-up to arrive! Which I will add is really obvious when you do this! 

The way I've always done it is the attitude you give me in game is the attitude you will get back. 

 
I don't know why but this thread is very toxic more than should be I think the best way to clean this up would be trying to have a week of crime free and encourage good roleplay that way we can all not bite each other's heads of over a silly little thing. I mean even a day to just to roleplay everything instead of "hands up or die" it should at least give them die and not demanding ridiculous thing make the time more interesting I mean when I was in police I remember being taken hostage by pavilion and it was great experience because there was bad singing and there were insults hurled between Anthony and Nathan which were entertaining the when negotiations went south we have done a pig contest for  our lives (which I won) and I was a great experience I mean  there all not like that but you need to entertain the hostages with Rp I mean if they are not having then crying about it there fault the situation shit.

 
Quite pathetic that this thread was derailed to become yet more RPUK drama.

As people have already said; you can find active gangs in the rebels and gangs area. Check teamspeak at peak times and you'll see who the most active groups are.

Goodluck!

 
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