Nice to see a few people using 229 as an example of working your way up. I have been with 229 pretty much from the very start, and we have been the most recent gang to be rewarded with a turf. It takes so much time and dedication to get an official 'home' or turf on this server, and trust me its definitely worth it.
All of us who have been on the server for quite some time have seen new gangs come and go, and I think sometimes its because they expect too much too soon. Personally I love seeing new gangs coming through and sticking about, and always tell them to stick to it, because the reward of finally getting a turf like we did was a great feeling.
It took us around a year to become an official whitelisted gang, and I will add it took us another month
after turf to actually get a jukebox
I haven't heard too much about Cutlass, and when I have its been mainly conflict stuff. In my opinion, I think its too early to give a new group things, as these things take time and the group needs to prove themselves. Just a few weeks back the arcade was owned by another group no?
Would like to see you guys stick with it and down the line potentially get your own turf etc, I'm all for seeing new gangs prosper, as I know what its like to start fresh and with nothing. Good luck with it all!