CPU Part 2

[Conor Barcoe]

Hi recently i made a post asking which CPU is best for ARMA 3 Altis life that would give a decent frame rate (30+ constant) and is affordable, i was suggested to buy an i7-4790k. But i was wondering what would be best, an i7-4790k as suggested or an i7-6700k?

 

[Shambala12]

I7 6700k I would say

 

[Ciaran]

It depends on your budget, recently when someone I know asked me what CPU to get, he originally was set on the 6700k, but he already had a motherboard that had the socket that could support the i7-4790k, therefore he ended up going for the i7-4790k. If you have a motherboard that already supports this processor, then this may be your best call in terms of money (otherwise you will also be looking for new motherboards and maybe DDR4 RAM, unless you already have compatible RAM - DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V, see Intel ARK for more info). If you can afford a new motherboard, I would go for the 6700k. 

Some benchmarks show quite interesting results - yet in most the processors are neck and neck against each other. The main difference between the two is that the 6700k has support for DDR4 memory as well as better integrated graphics (which you will not be playing ArmA on I hope...) Either one will be a great candidate for overclocking if you are into overclocking.

 

[Zeito]

The 4790k still has the best over all single-thread performance which means Arma will run marginally better on it, but the 6700k is a more up-to-date processor with support for newer Memory as Ciaran said.

However, Kaby Lake is due to release soon and uses the same socket at the 6700k so they would be due to fall in price shortly.

 

[CoreyB]

I miss my I7-4790k.. Outstanding game performance which beats my I7-5960x at less than half the price!  

 

[Conor Barcoe]

The 4790k still has the best over all single-thread performance which means Arma will run marginally better on it, but the 6700k is a more up-to-date processor with support for newer Memory as Ciaran said.

However, Kaby Lake is due to release soon and uses the same socket at the 6700k so they would be due to fall in price shortly.

It depends on your budget, recently when someone I know asked me what CPU to get, he originally was set on the 6700k, but he already had a motherboard that had the socket that could support the i7-4790k, therefore he ended up going for the i7-4790k. If you have a motherboard that already supports this processor, then this may be your best call in terms of money (otherwise you will also be looking for new motherboards and maybe DDR4 RAM, unless you already have compatible RAM - DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V, see Intel ARK for more info). If you can afford a new motherboard, I would go for the 6700k. 

Some benchmarks show quite interesting results - yet in most the processors are neck and neck against each other. The main difference between the two is that the 6700k has support for DDR4 memory as well as better integrated graphics (which you will not be playing ArmA on I hope...) Either one will be a great candidate for overclocking if you are into overclocking.

I7 6700k I would say

Well currently i have an 1155 socket, so either way im going to have to buy a new mobo, i also have 8gigs of DDR3 (hyperx fury), i was thinking about buying another 8gig stick, however someone in my last post told me not to use DDR3 with the 4790k as it could damage it, is this true?

Also i am thinking about buying the 4790k as someone i know is selling it for 160 quid, would cpu, mobo, gpu, and ram be compatible?

CPU- 4790K

Mobo- http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/WVjG3C/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85md3h

GPU- 2gig nvidia gtx 960

RAM- https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J8E91UO?tag=hypgam07-21

 

[Shambala12]

Well currently i have an 1155 socket, so either way im going to have to buy a new mobo, i also have 8gigs of DDR3 (hyperx fury), i was thinking about buying another 8gig stick, however someone in my last post told me not to use DDR3 with the 4790k as it could damage it, is this true?

Also i am thinking about buying the 4790k as someone i know is selling it for 160 quid, would cpu, mobo, gpu, and ram be compatible?

CPU- 4790K

Mobo- http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/WVjG3C/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85md3h

GPU- 2gig nvidia gtx 960

RAM- https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J8E91UO?tag=hypgam07-21

If you can get the i7 for that cheap then yes I would go for that as with the 6th gen, you will need more ram and a new mb too. You should also start thinking about upgrading your GPU soon too

 

[Zeito]

Well currently i have an 1155 socket, so either way im going to have to buy a new mobo, i also have 8gigs of DDR3 (hyperx fury), i was thinking about buying another 8gig stick, however someone in my last post told me not to use DDR3 with the 4790k as it could damage it, is this true?

Also i am thinking about buying the 4790k as someone i know is selling it for 160 quid, would cpu, mobo, gpu, and ram be compatible?

CPU- 4790K

Mobo- http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/WVjG3C/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85md3h

GPU- 2gig nvidia gtx 960

RAM- https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J8E91UO?tag=hypgam07-21

Ok well if you're moving socket, you could consider selling your old 1155 CPU, Mobo and 8GB of ram to someone looking for some cheap parts for a gaming PC. I sold my old i7 2700k, 8GB ram, mobo and a GTX770 for £250 which paid for half my new GPU ha.

Using DDR3 with the 4790k is fine, but you cannot use it with the 6700k - it uses DDR4.

Consider getting the 4GB GTX960 if you can, 2GB of Video memory just really isnt enough these days.

And yes those components should be compatible.

 

[Conor Barcoe]

If you can get the i7 for that cheap then yes I would go for that as with the 6th gen, you will need more ram and a new mb too. You should also start thinking about upgrading your GPU soon too

Do you know what kind of frame rate i should expect to gain with this set up in altis life as i dont have much money to spare and i would like to know if it worth spending money on these upgrades?

 

[Zeito]

Do you know what kind of frame rate i should expect to gain with this set up in altis life as i dont have much money to spare and i would like to know if it worth spending money on these upgrades?

Frame rate in Altis life is highly dependent on where you are and whats going on around you - the more the game has to process like exploding cars etc, the more it'll drop.

With my 4790k is get 60fps if theres not many people around, but high 40s-50s in Kavala if shits going down.

 

[Conor Barcoe]

Ok well if you're moving socket, you could consider selling your old 1155 CPU, Mobo and 8GB of ram to someone looking for some cheap parts for a gaming PC. I sold my old i7 2700k, 8GB ram, mobo and a GTX770 for £250 which paid for half my new GPU ha.

Using DDR3 with the 4790k is fine, but you cannot use it with the 6700k - it uses DDR4.

Consider getting the 4GB GTX960 if you can, 2GB of Video memory just really isnt enough these days.

And yes those components should be compatible.

Do you know what kind of frame rate i should expect to gain with this set up in altis life as i dont have much money to spare and i would like to know if it worth spending money on these upgrades?

 

[Zeito]

Do you know what kind of frame rate i should expect to gain with this set up in altis life as i dont have much money to spare and i would like to know if it worth spending money on these upgrades?

see above

 

[Shambala12]

Do you know what kind of frame rate i should expect to gain with this set up in altis life as i dont have much money to spare and i would like to know if it worth spending money on these upgrades?

Without the GPU upgrade, I would expect around 40-50 fps med settings maybe but the thing which may be holding you back will be the GPU, if you decide to go for the i7 4790k and have some spare money, I would defiantly say it's worth buying the RX 480, it's around £200 which is quite cheap and you'll get around the GTX 980 performance. With the RX 480 and the i7 4790k, I would defiantly say you could achieve 60fps with high settings 

 

[Conor Barcoe]

Frame rate in Altis life is highly dependent on where you are and whats going on around you - the more the game has to process like exploding cars etc, the more it'll drop.

With my 4790k is get 60fps if theres not many people around, but high 40s-50s in Kavala if shits going down.

Ok thanks, so if i bought the 4790k and have 16gb of ddr3 with the 2gig gpu should i expect around the same result as you or less?

 

[Shambala12]

Ok thanks, so if i bought the 4790k and have 16gb of ddr3 with the 2gig gpu should i expect around the same result as you or less?

See above 

 

[Zeito]

Ok thanks, so if i bought the 4790k and have 16gb of ddr3 with the 2gig gpu should i expect around the same result as you or less?

You need to factor in things like if arma is on an SSD or HDD, SSD will load up assets like sound, models, textures etc. quicker than an HDD. My GPU is a 6GB 980Ti so not a direct comparison, though arma is a mostly CPU based game. Like I said before though - even if you're tight on money - get a 4GB GTX960. 2GB just doesnt really cut it, and if you're spending this money to upgrade your PC, you want to get as much longevity out of it as you can, and very soon a 2gb card just wont cut the mustard.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Nvidia-Gaming-Graphics-Card/dp/B00UHHXXH8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476123991&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx960+4gb

Choose manufacturer as you wish - but it's only an extra £40 for the 4GB version instead of the 2GB.

 

[Conor Barcoe]

You need to factor in things like if arma is on an SSD or HDD, SSD will load up assets like sound, models, textures etc. quicker than an HDD. My GPU is a 6GB 980Ti so not a direct comparison, though arma is a mostly CPU based game. Like I said before though - even if you're tight on money - get a 4GB GTX960. 2GB just doesnt really cut it, and if you're spending this money to upgrade your PC, you want to get as much longevity out of it as you can, and very soon a 2gb card just wont cut the mustard.

See above 

Ok, i think i may have to just leave buying the upgrades as it seems to be coming quite costly, my budget is about 300-400 and i feel guilty just spending that much haha, but thanks tho guys for the help and quick replys

 

[Conor Barcoe]

You need to factor in things like if arma is on an SSD or HDD, SSD will load up assets like sound, models, textures etc. quicker than an HDD. My GPU is a 6GB 980Ti so not a direct comparison, though arma is a mostly CPU based game. Like I said before though - even if you're tight on money - get a 4GB GTX960. 2GB just doesnt really cut it, and if you're spending this money to upgrade your PC, you want to get as much longevity out of it as you can, and very soon a 2gb card just wont cut the mustard.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Nvidia-Gaming-Graphics-Card/dp/B00UHHXXH8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476123991&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx960+4gb

Choose manufacturer as you wish - but it's only an extra £40 for the 4GB version instead of the 2GB.

Is the GPU RX 480 any good tho, it was suggested by shambala

 

[Zeito]

Is the GPU RX 480 any good tho, it was suggested by shambala

I'm not much of an AMD fan really so i havent used one of their cards for a long time and unfortunately cant answer that question.