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Jack Gregerson
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- United Kingdom, Staffordshire
I love roleplaying this needs to be looked at +1.
Stuart
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Los Santos Police Senior
Los Santos NHS
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Gruppe 6
Solicitor
- Location
- United Kingdom
+1 I has an issue when pulling an SUV over. Got met with 3 other armed men for them to get out of a 15k ticket (Lowered from 70k). Ended with all of them crashing and killing themself and losing all there gear. I wish the Roleplay from all sides was like it used to be. The only way to get the best RP i have seen is via the medics 
Haywire
Escaped Convict
- Location
- England
Completely agree +1
I have noticed a huge dip in roleplay from rebels (gotta be honest, cops are keeping up a good standard of roleplay as always) and it's making the server less enjoyable to play on. The problem is, many rebels are focussed on money and gunfights.
I have noticed a huge dip in roleplay from rebels (gotta be honest, cops are keeping up a good standard of roleplay as always) and it's making the server less enjoyable to play on. The problem is, many rebels are focussed on money and gunfights.
Stavik
Do not go gentle into that good night
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Los Santos Police Command
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Los Santos Rangers
- Location
- Norway
I somewhat agree and i always add up the values of what i may or may not loose.
But Police. You gotta meet us halfway.
Use of force when verbal commands should be given. Shooting at the civ/ rebel when specific initiation on shooting tires have been given. Alot of sgt + just does not want to roleplay. The attitude towards is "just get done with it".
And if we wanna talk and resolve in the liason room we just get told off cause there is almost No un-biased opinions.
And fix your attitude when approached by a rebel. Not all rebels wanna kidnap you
Edit; And yes. Commuity meetings will helt for sure.
But Police. You gotta meet us halfway.
Use of force when verbal commands should be given. Shooting at the civ/ rebel when specific initiation on shooting tires have been given. Alot of sgt + just does not want to roleplay. The attitude towards is "just get done with it".
And if we wanna talk and resolve in the liason room we just get told off cause there is almost No un-biased opinions.
And fix your attitude when approached by a rebel. Not all rebels wanna kidnap you
Edit; And yes. Commuity meetings will helt for sure.
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Labrador
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Cops show the same sorts of roleplay such as PCSO Fat Chao where he decided to drive another PCSO completely not valuing his and the other PCSOs life and decamps from his SUV to spray a full rubbers at my mate. Cops are equally as bad as that throws the question of whether or not cops value their lives to a proper extent due to them having free gear.
Voltz
The Butler
- Location
- The Great Britain
Do you think mentioning people is really sensible, you are just asking for drama.
Again the word Cop is generalised but there are some bad apples in the police, and they usually seem to be taken as a a stereotype that cops are poor RPers. Some times this is true but remember RP is a two way street
We've had meetings before and they seem to offer value, 100% they should happen as far as I'm concerned.
There are issues on all sides: I've seen some terrible RP from cops and rebels / civs alike BUT, I regularly see amazing RP so while there are of course some 'bad apples' it's not as generalised as some of these posts tend to indicate.
There are issues on all sides: I've seen some terrible RP from cops and rebels / civs alike BUT, I regularly see amazing RP so while there are of course some 'bad apples' it's not as generalised as some of these posts tend to indicate.
Kaden
The King
- Location
- Bristol, UK
Love it how some people here are complaining about the standard of rp but then go do shit rp themselves
To be completely honest the server has got stale at this moment in time, when an update is pushed out that will excite everyone and we all can come up with more rp scenarios in accordance with the new features that came in with an update
To be completely honest the server has got stale at this moment in time, when an update is pushed out that will excite everyone and we all can come up with more rp scenarios in accordance with the new features that came in with an update
Labrador
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Bit rude, not really nice to say I'm causing drama as I named him in shame, I named and shamed him because of what he did was not right as a cop and the way that the cops have been trying to supposedly uphold the role play is wrong, cops have problems alongside rebel gangs and as a previous CI you'd understand that kind of role play from a PCSO was not acceptable as he comprises the life of the other PCSO which resulted in them dying.
Voltz, I don't want to cause drama as I wanted to show what is wrong and that he can improve in the future.
Mr Gibbins
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- Bed, chair, sofa, chair, bed.
I agree things have probably got a bit stale, but is that really a reason to disrupt the RP balance for everyone? I am also going to put a caveat in here right away that when I say you, I don't mean you personally but an undefined rebel player.Love it how some people here are complaining about the standard of rp but then go do shit rp themselves
To be completely honest the server has got stale at this moment in time, when an update is pushed out that will excite everyone and we all can come up with more rp scenarios in accordance with the new features that came in with an update
With so many Bank jobs, hostage ops and frankly baiting the police with Ifrits and rifles on backs all seemingly, I say seemingly and correct me if I am wrong, with the objective of having a gunfight and killing cops is it any wonder the RP is getting stale on the Police side too. I have played rebel and police side now to see what it is like, and I went to the police for the RP opportunities it offered. Opportunities not just for me but for civs too, I enjoy giving people room to talk and then picking the holes in their story using only their own words, not metagaming, not powergaming not assuming someone will behave a particular way. However the current meta is forcing cops into an impossible situation where we are duty bound to react to breaches of the law and simply get baited into the same situations over and over again.... and people wonder why they are sounding bored, not interested in RP.
This is a game, it is how everyone spends their relaxation time, other players are not NPC's in a shooting gallery. Roleplay servers depend entirely on a dynamic being maintained, a dynamic based on mutual consent and respect for each others space to enjoy the game. Just because a proportion of the player base is bored it doesn't mean it is permisable to push the dynamic away from RP and mutual respect and consent.
It isn't just cops that suffer from this, the population of civs that want to RP with cops or ask us for help don't get any time from us at all, because as soon as they ask us something we have to go rescue a colleague or a dude rolls up ion an Ifrit and shows us a 7.62 on his back or we try to pull someone over and get taken hostage over a speeding ticket and then 75% or more of the police on duty are dealing with that.
If you are bored, use your imagination to come up with something new, challenge yourselves, do drug runs with no guns and see if you can get away with it or something using RP alone. Move away from the boring old "it's an airsoft rifle", do you really expect a police officer with firearms training wouldn't know the difference between an airsoft gun and rifle? Some of the arguments that police don't RP well is I expect often a response to this kind of situation which usually goes something like this...
"Why do you have a rifle sir?"
"It's an airsoft rifle"
"Doesn't look like an airsoft rifle to me sir"
"Hands up and stop following us we have snipers"
If you don't want police to try and take the rifle on your back, don't let us see it, if you walk about with it then I kinda have to assume you want it to be seen, which is pretty blatant baiting if you do have a ton of sniper set up to get the police to follow you to or force us into initiation. Police know what is coming, they see it 10 times a day, over and over again, of course they are bored and likely to be less receptive to roleplay because one it is stale and two it kind of assumes they are stupid NPC's that have to follow your script.
Naming and shaming always causes drama as it is personal.
You also have to remeber any rebel can run about and die and do what he want's even if it is suicidal. Police on the other hand have to "value their lives", which seems to be increasingly used to force police to go away to the point of abuse. I have even had rebels say to me several times "remember you have to value your life police officer" in RP situations with a wink wink tone of voice. Well you know what, maybe I value the law above my life, maybe I value the lives of my colleagues above my own, maybe I just snapped one day after dealing with PTSD from being shot at so many times and so maybe I am going to die but I am going to take you off the streets with me you criminal scum....
But cops can't do that or we get straight up reported or "named and shamed".
Also remember PCSO's are going through a process of training and feedback on their performance, and currently it is frankly fucking impossible to give them the time and support they need to develop good RP skills because everything is a gunfight, or a potential gunfight, or maybe all their colleagues have been taken hostage or maybe the police that are happy to help them RP are all having a break because there isn't much RP to be had?
If you want to name someone, you go to the liason room first and give them feedback on what you felt could have been better, you accept they are learning and help that process, if you still don't like it talk with a more senior police officer, talk with them and an admin, finally if it's that bad report them.... but coming here and naming and shaming in a thread intended to bring the community together is frankly counterproductive.
I'm gonna come back to what I think is the fundamental point here, mutual consent and respect, if people can't maintain that because they are a bit bored, then they probably shouldn't be here at all.
Kaden
The King
- Location
- Bristol, UK
Labrador
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Snipping this to here.
First off, I know the process and let me just say too you whoever you are to which I'm assuming is Fat Chao or whoever I don't mind is that yes the fundamental point is through respect etc but also take into account that I named that PCSO due to his failure to provide a value of life, throughout my time I encouraged the fuck out of what I believed was better and neither did I go into the liason room because I saw no problem at the time but can you @Mr Gibbinsand no offense is this personal too you but have you ever realised that the reason behind the PCSO's are not properly trained in situations and don't get a feel of them because the FTT's that they do are scripted of some sort and I knew of that and so do many academy members and I know you in some sorts just said you're going to take me off the streets with me and I'll tell you that, that is some bullshit right there but lets not delve further.
It's a game, let's not bicker and lets start roleplayingkappa and @Mr GibbinsI'm sorry if I hurt you or offended you but from what I saw was pretty shit.
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Mr Gibbins
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I was pointing out that police can't do any of that as roleplay because they get reported for not valuing life.
Labrador
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The Wolf
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- UK
The problem is People fail to see the power of good role-play as a rebel you can role-play out of almost any situation and it can be pretty funny. Your pulled over for speeding just say officer ''my wife is giving birth i need to get there fast'' i said that and the officer said get back in and go quick ! best of luck lol Thats just an example people need to start using their head instead of their gun. There is too many people who are trigger happy i could name plenty but they know who they are.
Its much more fun to use your brain to get out of a situation rather than just click your mouse to shoot people
Its much more fun to use your brain to get out of a situation rather than just click your mouse to shoot people
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TheRealOutlaw
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- With My Homie G's
Very well put! Me personally I cannot get quality RP from rebels, Last night I tried RPing with a rebel using some of the funniest RP stories I have and the guy refused to RP and then proceeded to combat log in front of multiple officers. Then about 30 minutes later I was robbed in kavala, police backup arrived and we proceeded to restrain the man and attempted to RP with him, the only story we got was unrestrained me now or get shot, so we tried again to RP and only received bullets to the face. Excuse my language but ive been seeing more and more of "shit rp". As a SPC if a rebel gave me a wonderful RP story about his MXM or his ifrit, I would allow him to carry on without penalties. And its not just the rebels fault, officers have a part in it aswell, cops need to start accepting RP stories and stop worrying about sending everyone to jail, rebels shoot cops now with "shit rp" because past cops never would accept their RP story and would either sieze the weapon/send to jail when the rebel said it was a fishing rod. Its getting annoying seeing what could be a situation filled with great RP turn into a instant gunfight.
Ozzycazy
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- Location
- Oregon
firstly, I do support this 100+. I do agree both sides always say that they door poor role play, but I surely thing with a coming community meetings we can make things right and resolve these little bumps in the road. For any reason this has been bought UP A LOT surely everyone is excited for the up coming updates. I dearly do hope with the coming meeting and improvements we can see a better community.
With this coming from you @DSGT Sir LiamI do think people need to help newer members joining this server as we represent the older part of the community. Its hard for new players trying to start out when there robbed with no rewards or see rebels always killing other players, resulting in encouraging these recent roar in gun fights. I do say to any new player or just the current player base we should stick to helping newer guys.
To do with anything yes I do agree that SOME officers do have a hard time adjusting to there environment but this is because we let fresh players in with no prior experience to the server. But in other cases its because there nervous or go by the book, commonly its up to higher ranks to give these officers training. So we are working on a set up of some sort to help address these issues and to maybe combat or communicate with others.
I often heard these initiations and did help or give advice to never do these!
- "Get our the car or you'll be shot!" < Now to address that, simply not stating your police is a BAD way to start off anything!
If anything ANY officer should address to you when being busted at the drug dealer, "Who you are, demand, warning"
Here is a example of that
"This is the police!, hands above your head now!" or "Police hands above your head or you will be tazed"
I am going to note most of these in my guide book, so if your an officer feel free to look at the guide book!
Yes I am well aware above may not be exactly how most officer react but for role play. When your role playing should be done without harsh aggression as this makes for bad decisions and or the nasty gun fights. As of late I have not enjoyed my patrols having to respond to relentless emergency's and having to miss a simple traffic stop for speeding, But I can not blame a rebel gang for getting tired of this mishaps and what not. I would say is continue to try and role play your best and good quality.
As for hostage situations make something reasonable.... Don't just say "WE want 16 carrier rigs" or something the white listed faction is prohibited from (As in when your on as a officer you can't buy things like your normally would from markets or general stores and or mines etc...) There has been a few times where we were told "100k for each officer" or a zanmak full of crumpets or coffee. These here are pretty reasonable and make it less likely for a gun fight to happen. I really do encourage for things like that more.
As for last I do surely hope these meetings between the members of the community and the staff team! It be nice to see these happen once more as it fixed conflicts and makes less toxic ingame conflicts.
With this coming from you @DSGT Sir LiamI do think people need to help newer members joining this server as we represent the older part of the community. Its hard for new players trying to start out when there robbed with no rewards or see rebels always killing other players, resulting in encouraging these recent roar in gun fights. I do say to any new player or just the current player base we should stick to helping newer guys.
To do with anything yes I do agree that SOME officers do have a hard time adjusting to there environment but this is because we let fresh players in with no prior experience to the server. But in other cases its because there nervous or go by the book, commonly its up to higher ranks to give these officers training. So we are working on a set up of some sort to help address these issues and to maybe combat or communicate with others.
I often heard these initiations and did help or give advice to never do these!
- "Get our the car or you'll be shot!" < Now to address that, simply not stating your police is a BAD way to start off anything!
If anything ANY officer should address to you when being busted at the drug dealer, "Who you are, demand, warning"
Here is a example of that
"This is the police!, hands above your head now!" or "Police hands above your head or you will be tazed"
I am going to note most of these in my guide book, so if your an officer feel free to look at the guide book!
Yes I am well aware above may not be exactly how most officer react but for role play. When your role playing should be done without harsh aggression as this makes for bad decisions and or the nasty gun fights. As of late I have not enjoyed my patrols having to respond to relentless emergency's and having to miss a simple traffic stop for speeding, But I can not blame a rebel gang for getting tired of this mishaps and what not. I would say is continue to try and role play your best and good quality.
As for hostage situations make something reasonable.... Don't just say "WE want 16 carrier rigs" or something the white listed faction is prohibited from (As in when your on as a officer you can't buy things like your normally would from markets or general stores and or mines etc...) There has been a few times where we were told "100k for each officer" or a zanmak full of crumpets or coffee. These here are pretty reasonable and make it less likely for a gun fight to happen. I really do encourage for things like that more.
As for last I do surely hope these meetings between the members of the community and the staff team! It be nice to see these happen once more as it fixed conflicts and makes less toxic ingame conflicts.
Tommy Shelby
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- Yer dar sells avon
I left the cops as everyday it was hostage opp after hostage opp after hostage opp. No one bothered to come help out, so it was left to a few PC's to try and deal with it as everyone else, including myself at times, couldn't be arsed to be told 'stay 1km away or any officers in range including hostages will be shot'. It meant that the times I wanted to patrol by myself I couldn't, because chances are you get taken hostage, or you try pull someone over and 10 ifrits 2 hummingbirds and 50 guys with MK1s tell you to 'fuck off' lol.