Container System Change

[Steve Wittenberry]

Now I have had a few thoughts on how to make containers more say "Fair for lots of people/ give others opportunity's to own one". As it stands someone could come on the server buy some containers and just leave for months without using them.

Now with this I have a idea to make it some what fair for people who want a chance to own a container but it is a stretch.

Having Rusting locks that need to be changed on a container every 2 months or so. 

Now with this it allows people to still have a container but if the lock is not used for say 2 months it will corrode and rust away, then be available to be purchased/ locked up by someone else to own. Therefore this allows others to have some containers if not owned before and has a change every now and again so they all stay active and the economy does not rise as it has in recent times. 

Pros - Makes it more fair for others to have a chance at owning a container and keeps the flow of the containers going. As well it  keeps it more fun and productive.

Cons - Dev work needed.

Any more thoughts/ ideas would be ideal as this was just a small idea to bring up.

 

[Nikolai]

Now with this it allows people to still have a container but if the lock is not used for say 2 months it will corrode and rust away,

how would we check it's not being used?
and what's stopping people from just quickly unlocking it every 2 months so they don't lose it and then log off again?

 

[Steve Wittenberry]

how would we check it's not being used?
and what's stopping people from just quickly unlocking it every 2 months so they don't lose it and then log off again?

The reason I suggested every 2 months as its not to long to wait for them to come about, aswell as not to sure how to stop someone waking up every 2 months to change and log off. Maybe others have some ideas for that area. 

With the checking I would say have it the same as checking for them before. Other ideas and suggestions would be great for this as not just my ideas would help, as others have more opinions than me

 

[Albert Winsford]

Not sure how I feel about this as I used several lockers to store my goods in that are owned by others who have not logged in for months and have zero interest in logging in or have stupidy got themselves banned. I love the thrill of one day just logging on and finding out EVERYTHING is gone though.

 

[ReggieW]

and what's stopping people from just quickly unlocking it every 2 months so they don't lose it and then log off again?

you'll never be able to stop that, like with houses if people want to log on and pay their council tax every couple months theres nothing you can do but it'll still open up a few containers for those who never actually log on

 

[Isak]

how would we check it's not being used?

Wouldn't say its easy to implement, but maybe a timer system that starts when unlocked, and reset when interacted with?
 

and what's stopping people from just quickly unlocking it every 2 months so they don't lose it and then log off again?

Most people that still care about it are still gonna do this, same as the people logging on just to pay their house tax. I know a few containers owned by people who have completely moved on from RPUK or are Banned.


Think this is a good idea. Kind of the same as paying Council Tax, but with a little twist. It would be more fair for people. Instead of knowing every container (might) be purchased and occupied, it could enable people to search around and cross their fingers to find a un-occupied one!


+1

 

[Steve Wittenberry]

Think this is a good idea. Kind of the same as paying Council Tax, but with a little twist. It would be more fair for people. Instead of knowing every container (might) be purchased and occupied, it could enable people to search around and cross their fingers to find a un-occupied one!


 

With this as well it isn't that traceable through bank transfers as you could buy a lock from a guy on the docks in a corner with cash maybe?

Not sure how I feel about this as I used several lockers to store my goods in that are owned by others who have not logged in for months and have zero interest in logging in or have stupidy got themselves banned. I love the thrill of one day just logging on and finding out EVERYTHING is gone though.

True but maybe they come back  (if they can maybe) let you put your own lock on the container and purchase it then you would not have to worry about losing said items

 

[Katelyn West]

Firstly what a fantastic idea must say!

But i have a few ideas which i feel may benefit this!

As staff above have said what is to stop player logging on once a month just to ensure they keep the locker?

As properties as of now in the city "to my understanding"  is if rent is not paid then the tenant is evicted! This should maybe be the same case for the storage containers.

Another idea would be the police have a tablet for the police computer, Maybe there should be a tablet for checking in and out of storage containers etc, this could be like a computer which in the RP could be hard to detect by police etc but would in there locker. 

This would then enable staff to see how many times a person is actively using or going into that particular storage unit, should be like a spreadsheet layout on a tablet that automatically has date and time like the PNC but all the user has to do is sign there name and tick a box inside the container!  

Hope this suggestion adds to your one and that you understand it!

-Katelyn

 

[Isak]

As properties as of now in the city "to my understanding"  is if rent is not paid then the tenant is evicted! This should maybe be the same case for the storage containers.

This is basically what this suggestion is proposing, as a different way of "council tax". As the containers are not rented nor assigned to a name as houses are, it would make more sense of having a lock that you need to change rather than a tax every month.
 

Another idea would be the police have a tablet for the police computer, Maybe there should be a tablet for checking in and out of storage containers etc, this could be like a computer which in the RP could be hard to detect by police etc but would in there locker. 

This would then enable staff to see how many times a person is actively using or going into that particular storage unit, should be like a spreadsheet layout on a tablet that automatically has date and time like the PNC but all the user has to do is sign there name and tick a box inside the container!

Don't see personally how this would help combat it any other way. Evicting someone from a container they own because they only used it X amount of times would just be bad.

If anything, people are still going to just clock in and out of the container to bypass this either way.

 

[Katelyn West]

This is basically what this suggestion is proposing, as a different way of "council tax". As the containers are not rented nor assigned to a name as houses are, it would make more sense of having a lock that you need to change rather than a tax every month.

Yes this is what im trying to say charge like a monthly ground fee!

Don't see personally how this would help combat it any other way. Evicting someone from a container they own because they only used it X amount of times would just be bad.

What we need to realise is that everyone needs to be given a fair chance to own one. If people have bought them fly out and only return to keep a locker it is selfish and unfair on other players in my opinion. So yeah i do think a fee needs to be implemented and if fees aint paid maybe it could go to likes of storage wars theme and auction things out of the container etc. Which also could bring fun RP.

These are just ideas to go by and i stand by the tablet suggestion mounted to the inside of each container.

If anything, people are still going to just clock in and out of the container to bypass this either way.

Yeah they will, but this will be logging into the city. Driving all the way to the container, signing in and then leaving the city! Eventually they will get bored of it. 

 

[Isak]

Yes this is what im trying to say charge like a monthly ground fee!

"Having Rusting locks that need to be changed on a container every 2 months or so."

As these are supposed to be anonymous, no contract, no nothing. Who would you then pay the fee to?

Having to change the locks or something in that line would make more sense.
 

Yeah they will, but this will be logging into the city. Driving all the way to the container, signing in and then leaving the city! Eventually they will get bored of it.

Trust me, they would not get bored. People are logging in just to pay their council tax of houses that don't have anything in them even. Storage containers are worth a lot more than Houses and they wouldn't stop doing it because they have to drive to their container every other month.

 

[Katelyn West]

As these are supposed to be anonymous, no contract, no nothing. Who would you then pay the fee to?

Couldnt agree more with you on this point! I suppose maybe this would have to be thought of. I love the rusty lock concept but there would need to be something like a check in check out system even if its a paper clipboard in the locker to but yeah if they genuinly log in city and out then i suppose it needs more thought. 

Maybe in the future all storage units could be charged tax by a company who is in charge of lets say the ground to the lockers, like a storage company. Then they could take the funds?

This would still be discreet youd just need to go to city hall and pay the government tax on the locker like ground fee. 

-Katelyn

 

[Tommo]

The container situation is horrendous, they have all been bought by scalpers and are way overpriced, ownership should be reviewed, and a new method of obtaining them maybe

 

[Kate Anderson]

The container situation is horrendous, they have all been bought by scalpers and are way overpriced, ownership should be reviewed, and a new method of obtaining them maybe

It's the same with many things in the city. Valuable things are often quickly bought by those who have already much money. It's the same as IRL and hard to counter. 

I love the idea of corrosive locks. 

@Katelyn Westpolice needs be out of the loop since it's a back alley shady deal anyway. Storage lockers shouldn't be traceable by officials, that the entire deal of them.

 

[Katelyn West]

It's the same with many things in the city. Valuable things are often quickly bought by those who have already much money. It's the same as IRL and hard to counter. 

I love the idea of corrosive locks. 

@Katelyn Westpolice needs be out of the loop since it's a back alley shady deal anyway. Storage lockers shouldn't be traceable by officials, that the entire deal of them.

Fully agree

 

[Jesse]

how would we check it's not being used?
and what's stopping people from just quickly unlocking it every 2 months so they don't lose it and then log off again?

It's whatever imo, we had the same issues with Barns on Altis life and people will get on to pay / change locks for their barns / lockers once a month and have it occupied for a year if not longer.

Thats kinda how RPUK always has approached these type of features.

 

[George Harris]

Tax System for Containers Added.
Thanks for the suggestion!​